NBA GM Draft RD12
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I'll take the biggest difference maker left, maybe one of the biggest difference makers in the entire league.
On a team full of young players, I need someone who can mentor and teach. I need someone who can get all of these scorers in the position to do what they do best. I need a guy who can boost the play of Kevin Love, a 29 year old versatile inside-outside Hall of Famer with great passing and slightly limited athleticism. I need a guy who can make Steven Adams an even bigger force as he grows. I need a guy who knows exactly how to deploy RoCo as a 3andD guy.
I need a guy who will make my entire bench better *and* who can maximize my starting five and make Kyrie Irving and Devin Booker the best versions of themselves.
I know this draft is for 5 years and this guy is already 41, but I think he has a few years left in the tank.
Give me Brad Stevens and the Celtics organization, including their great home court advantage and excellent GM Danny Ainge.
On a team full of young players, I need someone who can mentor and teach. I need someone who can get all of these scorers in the position to do what they do best. I need a guy who can boost the play of Kevin Love, a 29 year old versatile inside-outside Hall of Famer with great passing and slightly limited athleticism. I need a guy who can make Steven Adams an even bigger force as he grows. I need a guy who knows exactly how to deploy RoCo as a 3andD guy.
I need a guy who will make my entire bench better *and* who can maximize my starting five and make Kyrie Irving and Devin Booker the best versions of themselves.
I know this draft is for 5 years and this guy is already 41, but I think he has a few years left in the tank.
Give me Brad Stevens and the Celtics organization, including their great home court advantage and excellent GM Danny Ainge.
A few players i want here but sorta forcing ny hand by not having a PF. For the next 5 years there may not be a better young PF than John Collins. A 10-7 guy as a rookie with a per 36 of 16-11. In the new age, a big guy who can stretch the floor creates defensive issues and Collins shot 34% from 3 this past year. Was THE most efficient college player 2 years ago by PER and during his 1st NBA season he was the 2nd most efficient rookie by PER (only behind Simmons). An incredibly efficient player, a good athlete, shooter and shot blocker at his age is too tough to pass on at this point.
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John Collins is a stretch player? He took 0.6 3s per game. That 34% is misleading. 60% of his entire FG attempts were inside three feet and only 23% of them were beyond 10 feet.
He's a solid young big man, but he's not stretching the floor. Shaq shot 50% from three in 1995.
He's a solid young big man, but he's not stretching the floor. Shaq shot 50% from three in 1995.
i doubt Shaq shot a 3 every other game tho lol ill happily take my big shooting 3/4 of his shot down low though, especially bc Embiid likes to face up. And while he may have shot, what? 42 3’s all season he made a decent amount of them, im assuming he also made a good percentage of those mid range shots? His mechanics on his jumper are good and i wouldnt be surprised to see the 20 year old continue to expand his game over the next 5 years.
Watch a highlight (i know... a highlight). I bet youd be impressed with the potential
He shot 26% on shots from 16 feet to the three point line. 41% from 10-16 feet.
Like I said, he's a good young player. He's just not a floor stretcher.
It might, although I think Stevens is so much more valuable than everyone else that it might be too early for the others and Ainge is probably the best GM in the league.
Factor in whatever fan support, home court advantage, draft picks, etc are worth and it's like taking Gronk in the first round in football. The other TEs aren't close.
I would approach this coach pick as equivalent to picking a kicker in fantasy football drafts... last round always.
You think the 14th best coach in the league would have the Celtics up 2-0 in the ECF without Kyrie or Hayward? You think a team of really young guys and an old center would be playing this well with anyone on the sideline?
Plus, it's not just coach. It's organization. Look at what Ainge has done for the Celtics. Look how well that front office handles things. Look at their home court advantage.
When you run these simulations, are they going to take place during the 2018-19 season and start next October (virtual) in the game or rosters as of today. I have Boogie and he is injured now but should be healthy to go by beginning of next season.
I’m not sure but the Celtics are a better team and have been all year. Cavaliers shot the lights out last series but honestly IND should have beat them with one of Westbrook’s side kicks yet again leading the way.
I agree though in that it’s not a great comparison to a kicker.
I think the first one will take place during the season that just happened. So all of those injuries will be turned off and assumed to have never happened in the sim.
In the voting, it starts next season with all of that stuff as a factor.
I think it's close to IDP. You take an elite linebacker in the middle rounds because he gives you as much value as those mid-tier RB/WR.
My guess is board perception won't think too much about the coach. That said I'm not sure board perception cares about much outside of the first 3-4 rounds and big names.
Players 3-13 probably so.
But not at the top, especially with Kyrie and Hayward hurt. No other team could lose their best two players and make the NBA finals. One might, debatable, but that's the only other one with a chance.
And that team would do it because they have overwhelming talent at the top. Their best player wouldn't be Al Horford.
I'm hoping voters are smart enough to know that Brad Stevens has a much bigger impact on a game and on a team than a player taken in the sixth round.
And the current NBA coach of the year isn’t available either. He’s not with a team anymore! This coach thing is overrated imo.
It'll be simulated from the start of this season. Boogie won't have the injury but I'm sure his injury rating went higher up.
Knowing and thinking about it man.
I think in this sort of almost fantasy set up--people are considering big names
I think the voters will use it as a last line sort of thing. Two teams are close but team A has the better coach so he gets it. Whilencoaches absolutely matter, tjey aren’t on sportscenter top 10.
I’m notnsaying I dosagree with you. Just trying to predict voter thinking.
PLAYER AGE POS. MIN. PROJ. ACTUAL PROJ. ACTUAL
Jayson Tatum 19 SF 2438 +0.8 +2.0 +2.3 +4.9
Al Horford 31 C 2277 +3.2 +4.1 +5.3 +6.5
Jaylen Brown 21 SG 2152 -0.2 +1.6 +1.5 +2.9
Kyrie Irving 25 PG 1931 +7.3 +10.2 +0.0 +1.3
Marcus Smart 23 SG 1614 +1.7 +0.2 +2.9 +2.9
Total +15.3 +18.8 +22.3 +35.1
Basically, what this data (in it's poor formatting) shows is that the Celtics (with undrafted guys removed from the list) were supposed to win 38 games this season with their roster, injuries, etc. They won 55 and are in the EFC with a 2-0 lead.
Look at the "actual" category on both offense and defense. He took guys like Kyrie who were already elite on offense and made them ridiculous and even took guys like Tatum who were supposed to be below average defenders and made them good.
And look at the difference in Al Horford. If he does that to Kevin Love (who is a much better player but in a similar style), I've got a three-headed monster.
Side note: only 3 times since 1980 has a team projected to finish below .500 won 55 games. This year was one of them.
Jayson Tatum 19 SF 2438 +0.8 +2.0 +2.3 +4.9
Al Horford 31 C 2277 +3.2 +4.1 +5.3 +6.5
Jaylen Brown 21 SG 2152 -0.2 +1.6 +1.5 +2.9
Kyrie Irving 25 PG 1931 +7.3 +10.2 +0.0 +1.3
Marcus Smart 23 SG 1614 +1.7 +0.2 +2.9 +2.9
Total +15.3 +18.8 +22.3 +35.1
Basically, what this data (in it's poor formatting) shows is that the Celtics (with undrafted guys removed from the list) were supposed to win 38 games this season with their roster, injuries, etc. They won 55 and are in the EFC with a 2-0 lead.
Look at the "actual" category on both offense and defense. He took guys like Kyrie who were already elite on offense and made them ridiculous and even took guys like Tatum who were supposed to be below average defenders and made them good.
And look at the difference in Al Horford. If he does that to Kevin Love (who is a much better player but in a similar style), I've got a three-headed monster.
Side note: only 3 times since 1980 has a team projected to finish below .500 won 55 games. This year was one of them.
Pretty sure he made his pick a few rounds back
With the 6th pick I select oh yes he still got game and something to oroove to u fools. Carmelo Anthony
With this being 2k it doesn't matter how bad he looked in the playoffs he gonna look good out there with fire and ice from my team
There is way too much emphasis being put on this 2k simulation. If your team loses 20-5 in votes, 2k isn't helping you.
Cheesing the system because you know so-and-so has a hundred badges and 97 shot IQ has basically got some of you looking at the overall roster ratings and just going down the list picking players.
The end goal here is to win the voting. The simulation counts for like 10% of the votes. That means on average, 2-3 votes per matchup.
Cheesing the system because you know so-and-so has a hundred badges and 97 shot IQ has basically got some of you looking at the overall roster ratings and just going down the list picking players.
The end goal here is to win the voting. The simulation counts for like 10% of the votes. That means on average, 2-3 votes per matchup.
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