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Who left is better than Ulis? Correct me if I’m wrong, but was he not a first team All American as a sophomore, SEC player of the year, SEC defensive player of the year, and the 2016 Bob Cousy award winner?

I'm not going to mention guys that haven't been drafted but don't you think it's an odd coincidence that 16 of the "best" 60-ish players of the last 20 years so far all happened to play for the same school?
 
Well, when picking 120 players, it is inevitable. Monk fits what I want for my team quite well. I sure loved Ulis but he isn't what I'm looking for on my team. He was an excellent college PG though.

About a fourth of the guys drafted so far are Cats. Do you think that's inevitable?
 
There are quite a few players left better than Ulis, my man (see what I did there). Lol. Nothing personal, I get it. I grabbed Randle a little early because he was a cat, but we have to also be realistic, or at least should be.
I think this deep into this, that’s a realistic pick. His resume his sophomore year speaks for itself.
 
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About a fourth of the guys drafted so far are Cats. Do you think that's inevitable?
That many? Well....we have had a lot of great players. The concept of this draft gets fuzzy. We aren't basing it off NBA production but at the same time, we know some of the guys blended into the background a bit and would have stood out at other schools. Also, you are right, most of us, me included, don't watch much more than UK although I do keep up with college basketball in general. With AD out, I don't think it's going to change things on its own.
 
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That many? Well....we have had a lot of great players. The concept of this draft gets fuzzy. We aren't basing it off NBA production but at the same time, we know some of the guys blended into the background a bit and would have stood out at other schools. Also, you are right, most of us, me included, don't watch much more than UK although I do keep up with college basketball in general. With AD out, I don't think it's going to change things on its own.
Isolating guys as strictly college players gets tough bc people are more familiar w a lot of the long term resume (including NBA). I tried to draft based on some solid college accolades, for the most part. But yes, a lot of fans almost exclusively watch UK or they fall in love with the stats bc of the OAD era vs guys waiting 3-4 years to become THE guy. Like why draft a guy who it took 3 years to average 17 ppg when it took a UK freshman 1 and they made the NBA w some recency bias? Not the way it should be IMO but sorta the way i see it happening some.

i had to get my token UK guy all the same, just went a little older school w a guy who stuck around and ‘earned’ it like they had to pre OAD
 
That many? Well....we have had a lot of great players. The concept of this draft gets fuzzy. We aren't basing it off NBA production but at the same time, we know some of the guys blended into the background a bit and would have stood out at other schools. Also, you are right, most of us, me included, don't watch much more than UK although I do keep up with college basketball in general. With AD out, I don't think it's going to change things on its own.

You don't think a board full of people who don't actually watch the sport are going to be swayed when they look at a team and think Jodie Meeks was better than Malcolm Brogdon just because they actually know who he is?

The draft guidelines are simple. You're building the team of players you think would beat the others based entirely on how good they were in college.

So sure it's easy to know that KAT was a great shooter even though he didn't get to do it here, but it doesn't mean that applies for guys who genuinely weren't as good in college as they became in the pros. Kawhi Leonard wasn't Kawhi Leonard at 20. He didn't top 20 ppg until the season he turned 25, despite playing 30mpg the four seasons prior.

I guess it ultimately doesn't matter. But if you're doing something fun as a time waster, you'd at least like to have genuine basketball talk and see how it shakes out instead of just promising people ice cream to win votes.

Anyway, no need to belabor the point. Draft on.
 
You don't think a board full of people who don't actually watch the sport are going to be swayed when they look at a team and think Jodie Meeks was better than Malcolm Brogdon just because they actually know who he is?

The draft guidelines are simple. You're building the team of players you think would beat the others based entirely on how good they were in college.

So sure it's easy to know that KAT was a great shooter even though he didn't get to do it here, but it doesn't mean that applies for guys who genuinely weren't as good in college as they became in the pros. Kawhi Leonard wasn't Kawhi Leonard at 20. He didn't top 20 ppg until the season he turned 25, despite playing 30mpg the four seasons prior.

I guess it ultimately doesn't matter. But if you're doing something fun as a time waster, you'd at least like to have genuine basketball talk and see how it shakes out instead of just promising people ice cream to win votes.

Anyway, no need to belabor the point. Draft on.

Did you watch Jodie Meeks play? His Junior year you can put up with just about anyone. not his fault he played on a Billy G nightmare of a team.
 
Did you watch Jodie Meeks play? His Junior year you can put up with just about anyone. not his fault he played on a Billy G nightmare of a team.

Nope. Who? Jodie who? Never heard of her.

24 points on 46% shooting from the field on a terrible team while giving you no playmaking or rebounding or defense is one of the best 40-50 players of the last 20 years?

Please make that case. I'd love to hear it lol.
 
You don't think a board full of people who don't actually watch the sport are going to be swayed when they look at a team and think Jodie Meeks was better than Malcolm Brogdon just because they actually know who he is?

The draft guidelines are simple. You're building the team of players you think would beat the others based entirely on how good they were in college.

So sure it's easy to know that KAT was a great shooter even though he didn't get to do it here, but it doesn't mean that applies for guys who genuinely weren't as good in college as they became in the pros. Kawhi Leonard wasn't Kawhi Leonard at 20. He didn't top 20 ppg until the season he turned 25, despite playing 30mpg the four seasons prior.

I guess it ultimately doesn't matter. But if you're doing something fun as a time waster, you'd at least like to have genuine basketball talk and see how it shakes out instead of just promising people ice cream to win votes.

Anyway, no need to belabor the point. Draft on.
It's an interesting point and I get it. I've struggled with it making my picks. The one thing that makes it murky is the whole, was Mike Daum a better college player than Julius Randle? Those questions will make the draft interesting.
 
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Nope. Who? Jodie who? Never heard of her.

24 points on 46% shooting from the field on a terrible team while giving you no playmaking or rebounding or defense is one of the best 40-50 players of the last 20 years?

Please make that case. I'd love to hear it lol.
You'd know her if she had stayed for 1 more year.
 
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It's an interesting point and I get it. I've struggled with it making my picks. The one thing that makes it murky is the whole, was Mike Daum a better college player than Julius Randle? Those questions will make the draft interesting.

Those are going to be what makes it fun. I think if a Cat is involved, we know how it will go, but how will people value a guy like Trae Young vs a guy like Jameer Nelson. I had them really close in my rankings, but will the pro production skew perception?

Should be fun to debate. I'm not even sure how I feel about it yet.
 
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Those are going to be what makes it fun. I think if a Cat is involved, we know how it will go, but how will people value a guy like Trae Young vs a guy like Jameer Nelson. I had them really close in my rankings, but will the pro production skew perception?

Should be fun to debate. I'm not even sure how I feel about it yet.
Hopefully not. I try my best to be objective.
 
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Nope. Who? Jodie who? Never heard of her.

24 points on 46% shooting from the field on a terrible team while giving you no playmaking or rebounding or defense is one of the best 40-50 players of the last 20 years?

Please make that case. I'd love to hear it lol.
Jodie Meeks had one of the best single seasons EVER at UK. That alone should make him a worthy late pick despite his liabilities. And 46% shooting for the volume of shots he had to take is pretty damn good IMO.
 
This is gonna blow up full blown Tony and Ezekiel style. Lol.
Lol. I’ve never done this before but thought I’d give it try. I’ve been watching college basketball religiously for 35 years. Not an expert like some on here but find the picks interesting and brings back some memories lol. I make my pics based on what they did in college, players I loved to watch, and what I need for my “team.”
 
Lol. I’ve never done this before but thought I’d give it try. I’ve been watching college basketball religiously for 35 years. Not an expert like some on here but find the picks interesting and brings back some memories lol. I make my pics based on what they did in college, players I loved to watch, and what I need for my “team.”
Then you're doing it right. If any of us thinks they're an expert, they've already screwed up.
 
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Lol. I’ve never done this before but thought I’d give it try. I’ve been watching college basketball religiously for 35 years. Not an expert like some on here but find the picks interesting and brings back some memories lol. I make my pics based on what they did in college, players I loved to watch, and what I need for my “team.”
Btw, have you seen the Tony and Ezekiel video? It's NSFW.
 
Jodie Meeks had one of the best single seasons EVER at UK. That alone should make him a worthy late pick despite his liabilities. And 46% shooting for the volume of shots he had to take is pretty damn good IMO.

It's the 33rd highest scoring season of the last 20 years. On average shooting numbers. With no other contributions. On an awful team.

But again, about 25% of the picks made have been Cats. They just all happened to be the best value at their spot. What are the odds lol?
 
It's the 33rd highest scoring season of the last 20 years. On average shooting numbers. With no other contributions. On an awful team.

But again, about 25% of the picks made have been Cats. They just all happened to be the best value at their spot. What are the odds lol?
Ok. Clearly you must be the Jay Bilas of the Rupp Rafters draft. I kneel before you and your awesome college basketball knowledge and research.
 
I need a power forward but also some elite defense... 3.8 blocks per game ain't too shabby right? Give me another Dukie - Shelden Williams

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I think Gonzo new nickname in my eyes is Billy G. Anyone who can't see the value of a sharp shooter that shot 40% from 3 point land on high volume must be drinking something good

Waiting on you to make the case that Jodie Meeks is one of the 50 best players of the last 20 years.
 
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uhhhhh...is this guy missing a screw?
 
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