That's because their isn't much, if any, actual data that would point to a shutdown.
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That's because their isn't much, if any, actual data that would point to a shutdown.
Exactly. While I am a gov worker who gets a pension and am also protected by a union (not a teacher), my ass has been working uninterrupted since this whole thing began. I feel zero sympathy for the teachers whining about their safety or having to report to work, especially when they already get a summer break, fall break, winter break as part of a normal work year while the rest of us show up every day.
I'm starting to feel less animus towards Bevin about the rhetoric he used towards teachers unions. I supported his actions if not his words, but now, the way the teachers are completely overreacting about all of this and putting KY's kids waaaaaay behind because of their own selfishness, yeah, zero sympathy. Suck it up buttercup. A whole hell of a lot of us have been working non stop. In public. With people. Without expectation of extra money. We're fine.
You're speaking Greek when you say this liberals. They can't possibly grasp this concept.
I'm a teacher in Tennessee at a private school. We have been in person since day one this year. Didn't have our first positive case until mid-October (600 kids in the school, minus about 60-70 going virtual from the start). Had some minor hiccups in the last month and I think we're up to like 10 total cases for students and 2 for teachers now. Close contacts had to quarantine and go virtual but came back after their isolation. Am I worried I'll get it? Not really. Should I be? Maybe. Don't think about it most days. I go about my job with a mask on and stay away from the kids as best I can. I am one that really gets tired of the whiny stance teachers have seemingly permanently adopted - not just about COVID, but about most things. Just do the job you signed up for or find another one.
Like I was saying, all over the world. Especially developed countries. Most of Europe started back in Jun/July. Practically all of Asia that same time. As it stands today, outside of the US, the only heavily closed countries are 3rd world. So whatever, I guess.
School closures during the COVID-19 pandemic
If policies vary at the subnational level, the index is shown as the response level of the strictest sub-region.
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Like I was saying, all over the world. Especially developed countries. Most of Europe started back in Jun/July. Practically all of Asia that same time. As it stands today, outside of the US, the only heavily closed countries are 3rd world. So whatever, I guess.
School closures during the COVID-19 pandemic
If policies vary at the subnational level, the index is shown as the response level of the strictest sub-region.
And this map really isn't accurate. Ireland, for example, is almost 100% open as is France. Italy is open except for high schools. Kentucky is a clear outlier in terms of western/developed countries.
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^Correct. The issue isn't spread in schools, it's ridiculous quarantine requirements or local percentages being too high that's closing schools.
I don’t have problem with county or even school making decision. Catholic schools in Louisville have done that pretty efficiently.
Skeptical of any strong determination in science, however. Think it’s too soon and too complex to make such determinations. Albeit, I’m just some code monkey.
Skeptical of any strong determination in science, however. Think it’s too soon and too complex to make such determinations. Albeit, I’m just some code monkey.
Oh, of course entire central and south america are shutdown. Makes sense.
You’re struggling to type and you seem illiterate yet you’re talking about someone else’s ability to comprehend something. Nice one.
Infections don't concern me one bit. The only metrics that register with me are deaths per million and ICU capacity, which aren't discussed much by our governor.
# of infected long term side effects & hospitalizations is pretty pertinent.
Damn, I wish I could "like" this post 1,000 times.
Thumb typed as well. Wish I was at my laptop when I wrote it so the formatting would have been better.
Percentage of serious lingering effects and deaths are statistically less likely than serious side effects from the vaccine.
The heart issue is already proven to be fear mongering nonsense
1) not sure that’s a true statement
2) regardless of the statistical yield, one common meme is:”all we care about is deaths“. But point is, long term side effects are a metric that should be paid attention to. Merely looking at deaths is not a portrayal of full picture
There will be more lasting psychological effects than freaking long term virus issues. You have to get infected, have issues and then get into the rare longer term impacts...
the psychological issues require no infection at all!!!! Just order up a lockdown, keep kids out of school, cancel their sports, make them scared of others, let some ppl yell about masks and poof - there’s your long term effects.
the psychological issues require no infection at all!!!! Just order up a lockdown, keep kids out of school, cancel their sports, make them scared of others, let some ppl yell about masks and poof - there’s your long term effects.
Nope, doesn't concern me either. The chances are statistically minuscule, and not even certain anyway.
Stop buying the fear.
Nope. If you end up dying from cancer because you were terrified to go to a doctor BECAUSE YOU MAY have long term side effects from covid seems trivial at this juncture.
The full picture also includes economic impact, citizen mental health, and education of our youth.
The lockdown deaths will be something we see for years to come. Maybe from now on due to the severe economic devastation.
Of course that information will be censured and suppressed.
Nah, this will be forgotten within a year. There will be a new boogie man to blame those issues on.
I don’t see that that has happened at all. this thread has been solid.
As far as the overall political nature - by luck or by skill, the party that has sided more with freedom, future and economy just naturally has a much better argument since this virus hasn’t overloaded hospitals and has a 99.8% survival...and a school argument involving children who survive at 99.999 makes it even easier.
As far as the overall political nature - by luck or by skill, the party that has sided more with freedom, future and economy just naturally has a much better argument since this virus hasn’t overloaded hospitals and has a 99.8% survival...and a school argument involving children who survive at 99.999 makes it even easier.
Ah, and there it is. It’s why I can’t take it seriously. As initially stated, OP may not be wrong. Except this whole conversation is in context of “Democrats not following science”. Truth is more complicated.
Furthermore, let’s be real...
If you want to make it political... you’re comparing a party which has largely rejected every scientific notion that has challenged religion to a party who has largely sides with scientists.
Furthemore, with rates sky rocketing and holidays approaching, I think there is pretty solid reasoning to consider closing schools. It is very relative to location, ways of life and many other factors not even directly related to virus... and that’s the real world.
Now, a whole lot of people just want their kids out of the ****ing house and see it’s not a good education... they aren’t wrong about that.
One thing being true doesn’t mean the other is not.
If you want to make it political... you’re comparing a party which has largely rejected every scientific notion that has challenged religion to a party who has largely sides with scientists.
Furthemore, with rates sky rocketing and holidays approaching, I think there is pretty solid reasoning to consider closing schools. It is very relative to location, ways of life and many other factors not even directly related to virus... and that’s the real world.
Now, a whole lot of people just want their kids out of the ****ing house and see it’s not a good education... they aren’t wrong about that.
One thing being true doesn’t mean the other is not.
Someone should buy you a beer just for thumb typing that and just being an excellent post in general.
Hypothetically speaking what if the state rebelled against his mandates. Like the restaurants stayed open and schools stayed open. Could he actually do something serious or not? I was just curious if there were actually legal ramifications for not following.
Present the data, buddy. Otherwise we're smart enough to realize you don't know what the hell you're talking about and trying to muddy the conversation. That little game doesn't trick us.
Health dept fines and police shutdowns. If he's willing to chance it.
I don’t even know if you’re talking me, buddy. Furthemore, what data are you requesting?
I am. Show us what you're arguing about with some "science".
"They" are closing down schools just for the fun of it. But you all know better. Sic Semper TRex!
Lol, what is the argument you think I’m making? My opinion lies on side of facts, wherever facts may lead. If you actually read my initial post, you’d clearly see I said “OP might not be wrong.”
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