Biden did it to act like he was doing something but like everything else he does, he screwed up.
Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions
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Currently researching Viktor Yuschenko. Fun fact that will draw partisan comments, but interesting nonetheless. I vaguely remember him being talked about in the Trump years.
Despite US opposition, Viktor Yuschenko, in 2004, hired none other than Paul Manafort to rehabilitate his political career. Eventually this led to Manafort being subject to an FBI Investigation. It's alleged that between 2010 and 2014, Manafort took over 60 million dollars from Ukrainian sponsors.
Despite US opposition, Viktor Yuschenko, in 2004, hired none other than Paul Manafort to rehabilitate his political career. Eventually this led to Manafort being subject to an FBI Investigation. It's alleged that between 2010 and 2014, Manafort took over 60 million dollars from Ukrainian sponsors.
Interesting thread for those who are interested in reading up on the timelines of how this has played out. People predicted this would happen.
I guess I don’t get your point. Russia isn’t happy about a neighboring country being allied to the West just like we weren’t happy with Cuba being allied with Russia. We tried to overthrow that government just like Putin is trying to do in Ukraine.
It would be different if we took a different stance in regards to Cuba, but we didn’t. We responded militarily, just like Russia is.
If only someone would have already brought up the Ukraine was a known hotbed of shady and downright illegal activity involving the elites of the West.
Isn’t it too late for that? The whole world would cheer if the Ukrainians were able to strike back. I would.
I’ve been reading and listening to John Mearsheimer a lot the last few days. Very informative.
We can agree on JB being a good guy. I hope he gets healthy and we see him again on the PGA Tour soon.
My point is that there are a lot of countries in 2022 who are near neighbors they don't have control of or like...and that doesn't justify a fullscale invasion. We could invade Cuba tomorrow on the pretense that Russia could put nuclear bombs in Cuba. A more rational leader in Russia would have forged a diplomatic solution going forward and not justify war because of disagreement. There is no excuse for what they are doing. None.
What is this even indicating other than trying to be a dick on the internet?
That's an outrageous statement. Our government did not and has never sent an attack of any sort on children. That was an awful tragedy. The Russians, however, don't care who is in their way. Are they intentionally targeting children? Yes and no, they are targeting civilians and they couldn't care less who dies. For you to conflate that with a mistake is sickening.
Again, for the millionth time, just how did we "precipitate this mess"?
Actually, Mumbles didn't screw this one up. The people involved simply didn't do enough to confirm their target and innocents died in the process.
Yes we have, and we would again if we actually wanted to win a war. War is more than just defeating an army, the will of the people to fight has to be broken as well. It's why war should be avoided at all costs, it's hell. We fire bombed Tokyo and Dresden, bombed both countries to rubble, dropped 2 atomic bombs on Japan. All horrific, all necessary to end the war as quickly as possible and save American troops lives.
That isn't justifying what Russia is doing, or trying painting some moral equivalence, it's just the opposite. We should try above and beyond to not go to war in every circumstance.
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When I was a kid I was always told the GE plant in Owensboro had a nuke targeted at it by Russia. No idea if that is actually true or not.
No it isn't. The US certainly was a cheerleader to remove the Russian puppet be we were not directly involved. The Ukrainian people hated the man. Are we encouraging them to join NATO and the EU, probably. Are we trying to establish deeper and deeper ties with Ukraine? Sure, what's wrong with that unless you're a petty despot so weak that he can't stand to see a former member of the Soviet Union buddy up with the west. Is there some direct thing that we've done to justify Russia invading Ukraine like this? I'll wait.
Whether intentional or not, many civilians and children have been killed as a result of US led coalitions. That is objectively true. It’s the unfortunate consequence of war, and why I’m so strongly against it.
Obama ordered the drone strike of a 16 year US citizen without due process in a country we weren’t even at war with so I’m not sure why what I said is so sickening to you. What’s sickening is that it happens. Children should be not be dying in wars.
Ok, if you want to twist the nukes into targeting children, that's fine but it was done to prevent more deaths, not to cause as many deaths as possible. That's a huge difference.
His father was Al-Queda, he took 2 kids into a dangerous situation. They were both killed but neither were the targets.
That doesn't make any difference to them, they're still dead.
Are you some sort of pollyanna or something? So long as bad people start conflicts, innocents including children will die. We try very hard to limit that but it is unavoidable.
Putin must be inept. He needs a bunch of post hoc vaguely worded explanations for his invasion of another country. Putin sympathizers challenging others to explain why Russia invaded Ukraine. Wait, are you saying the reasons Putin actually attempted to articulate were lies? The idea that war is “justifiable” but is so nuanced that you cannot clearly explain it undercuts the original premise.
So as long as they weren’t the targets it doesn’t matter if the child died? Having a father as a terrorist isn’t grounds for getting killed while you’re eating at a restaurant.
If the US is so concerned with innocent civilians dying they wouldn’t drone strike restaurants.
Anybody see the President or Ukraines latest comments?
“I asked President Biden, and Scholz and Macron…and I said, if you can’t provide a no-fly zone right now, then tell us when?”
Speaking during a televised news conference in Kyiv, the Ukrainian president went on to ask how many more people in Ukraine must be killed before NATO agrees to enact a no-fly zone.
This dude is leadership.
Also, what a shitty position to having to ask for that, knowing it’s not happening. We should give him planes though.
“I asked President Biden, and Scholz and Macron…and I said, if you can’t provide a no-fly zone right now, then tell us when?”
Speaking during a televised news conference in Kyiv, the Ukrainian president went on to ask how many more people in Ukraine must be killed before NATO agrees to enact a no-fly zone.
“If you don’t have the strength to provide a no-fly zone, then give me planes. Would that not be fair?” he continued.
This dude is leadership.
Also, what a shitty position to having to ask for that, knowing it’s not happening. We should give him planes though.
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Actually we’re 100% involved. Used the CIA to pull off a color revolution funded by Obama. We removed a Russian puppet for a WEF puppet.
That’s what I heard. Who cares. Russians meddled with the US election right? Right? Right? Keep saying it, it becomes true.
Someone said my claim that Americans don’t kill children and civilians to be sickening. I pointed out that civilian and children have died because of the US government.
I don’t think the US government is hunting down women and children, but I believe civilians and children dying in a war is sickening regardless of intent, but pointing that out isn’t what’s sickening. The fact that is happens, is and I refuse to defend any government that does so.
with a internet troll farm? Lol. Russia did not interfere with the election. There is no evidence that any of the Russian internet troll farms tricked anyone into voting differently.
WEF is just as dangerous as Russia.
That has happened in literally, EVERY. SINGLE. CONFLICT IN HISTORY!! Can’t single America out for that shit.
I didn’t. Someone singled America out as not doing it.
WEF is orders of magnitude more dangerous than Russia because:
- They operate with impunity in every Western nation.
- Their motives and goals are mostly unknown and or hidden from the population of the West.
Ukrainian President Zelenskyy is tied to Klaus Schwab, Justin Trudeau, and other global elites - LifeSite
Like Trudeau, Zelenskyy is an acolyte of the World Economic Forum.
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What tank? I was fishing most of the day and have not been on here. Caught a monster bass. It was my only bite for the day.
Edited: Went back and saw the tank. I would probably wind up like this guy.
...That's NOT a "no".... just sayin
@AustinTXCat posted an ebay link. Don't see it now though
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