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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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UKGrad83 said:
The clown is currently in the White House, Mr. Brain Dead lefty..

U.S. Imports set record in Biden's first year
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I like how you gloss over that chart showing that Russian oil imports went up even more during Trumps presidency.

Try to use your small brain. What happened in 2020? US oil production dropped 25%, thanks Trump. Then in 2021 demand spiked up hard and the oil companies couldn't ramp back up because that takes time and willing employees. They also don't want to ramp up fast because they like prices high. So obviously refineries need to import more to fill the gap. I know trumpsters don't understand this but Biden doesn't personally import or export oil. The US has an entirely private oil industry run by these things called corporations. Biden can try to push an agenda but those companies make the decisions based on what makes shareholders the most profit, they don't give a shit about Americans buying expensive gas.
Maybe we should nationalize the industry like a large portion of the world does. Then the president can control imports and the country gets all the profits.
 
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Platinumdrgn said:
I like how you gloss over that chart showing that Russian oil imports spiked every year of trumps prsidency.

Try to use your small brain. What happened in 2020? US oil production dropped 25%, thanks Trump. Then in 2021 demand spiked up hard and the oil companies couldn't ramp back up because that takes time and willing employees. So obviously you need to import more to fill the gap. I know trumpsters don't understand this but Biden doesn't personally import or export oil. The US has an entirely private oil industry run by these things called corporations. Biden can try to push an agenda but those companies make the decisions based on what makes shareholders the most profit, they don't give a shit about Americans buying expensive gas.
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Dear lord, how dense can you be? You point to the spikes during Trump's term and blame him for them but when your guy Brandon has the largest spike EVER by a large margin, you say it's not Brandon's fault. Typical leftist deflection. Things are never your fault, someone else must take the blame. So which is it? Are the corporations to blame in all cases or just when Biden is in office? Can you wrap you pea brain around that question?
 
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UKGrad83 said:
Dear lord, how dense can you be? You point to the spikes during Trump's term and blame him for them but when your guy Brandon has the largest spike EVER by a large margin, you say it's not Brandon's fault. Typical leftist deflection. Things are never your fault, someone else must take the blame. So which is it? Are the corporations to blame in all cases or just when Biden is in office? Can you wrap you pea brain around that question?
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Where is this largest spike ever? Oh ya. It happened In 2019 under Trump. Dumbass
2019 was a 145,000 increase of 40%
2021 was a 150,000 increase of 28%
Guess Trump was total shit
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Platinumdrgn said:
Where is this largest spike ever? Oh ya. It happened In 2019 under Trump. Dumbass
2019 was a 145,000 increase of 40%
2021 was a 150,000 increase of 28%
Guess Trump was total shit
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So now you move the goal post. First it was "who was President when Russian oil imports took a ****ing YUGE increase?" Now that Joey boy has imported 28% more than anyone else, you want to compare yearly differentials (spikes). What a maroon. I almost feel sorry for your family.
 
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JoeSwag said:
Do you think this is just black and white and that Ukraine isn’t corrupt AF especially given their recent history? I literally said at the beginning of the message that it was what one person from that side said. We already get the other side’s propaganda fed through corporate media. I know that narrative.

I know many people question nothing and it’s complete lockstep on every single thing but maybe give pause on adopting the narrative fed. At least I’m consistent in saying I do not want us to be involved in any of it and I do not support either country or their politicians.


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You posted something really dumb as a hypothetical, say you don’t care and aren’t interested, and then don’t even really defend it when called out on it. You keep saying you want to sit it out. Sit it out.
 
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Social Media is what Putin miscalculated. They say he doesn't even have a personal phone or internet. You can't even get away with pissing on a golf course anymore without it being magnified (and often distorted to be made look worse) by 1 billion percent, let alone this madness.. That magnification has ruined his entire country.

XI won't go into Taiwan after this, I predict. I'll be called naive, but I bet he doesn't. China places so much value on appearances. He doesn't need the headaches.
 
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Warrior Poet31 said:
Nailed it.

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The Americans itching for war

Escalation and the broader conflict
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Damn. You aren't kidding. It took a while to set this whole situation up. Governments have never cared about people. People may care individually but governments consider them property, numbers, and drones. It's so strange to me how the enlisted men of our military can care so much about their country and its people, but our people ar the top care so little. What happens to people?
 
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JoeSwag said:
Do you think this is just black and white and that Ukraine isn’t corrupt AF especially given their recent history? I literally said at the beginning of the message that it was what one person from that side said. We already get the other side’s propaganda fed through corporate media. I know that narrative.

I know many people question nothing and it’s complete lockstep on every single thing but maybe give pause on adopting the narrative fed. At least I’m consistent in saying I do not want us to be involved in any of it and I do not support either country or their bad and corrupt politicians.


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Switzerland is no longer as neutral as you. However if tyranny is to be defeated, I found a place for them to go next.
 
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FirewithFire said:
First off, sorry that you have an anxiety issue. Most of us will have them at some point in life.

Just curious, how old are you?

The reason I ask is because many of us here lived through the years when the possibility of nuclear war was an everyday thing. I can remember nuke drills in grade school where they made us get under our desks and put our heads between our knees. Then we had to wait and pray it was just a drill. That was intense for a first and second grader.

In the 80s there were regular skirmishes between USSR and US forces. Some you heard of and some you didn't. There was fervent nationalism in both countries. US culture revolved around defeating the evil red scourge, kids fantasied about it, seemed every movie and book had a red villain, songs were made about it. Everyone though war was for sure going to happen.

It's not even close to that bad now. I think most all of us know that things could break off at any moment. That said, worrying about it will only make you sick. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Nothing. Stop letting it dominate you. If it happens, it happens. Then you deal with what is front of you. Get things squared away as best as you can and try to keep your thoughts neutral.

Just some advice you didn't ask for.
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If you have a God-centric world view you have zero fear of a nuclear war on any grand scale
 
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Bill Derington said:
The reason Russia went into Ukraine was just an excuse. They are throwing the gauntlet down to the West, specifically the United States.
They are going to destroy Kyiv, like down to rubble. More than likely kill Zelensky as a message to other leaders that oppose them.
I expect China will follow shortly somewhere.
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Nah
 
I’d like to all Russians starve and suffer for the foreseeable future. Make ‘em drink their oil. I’d sleep like a baby knowing those kids and women are hungry.
 
SosaUK87 said:
Don’t start no shit, won’t be no shit.

Never mind, read that wrong. The Russian commanders are killing off their own wounded? Is that what he’s saying?
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No, initial translation provided by a former UKR diplomat. Apparently UKR troops killed RUS wounded, which goes against laws of land warfare (Hague and Geneva Conventions).
 
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UKGrad83 said:
So now you move the goal post. First it was "who was President when Russian oil imports took a ****ing YUGE increase?" Now that Joey boy has imported 28% more than anyone else, you want to compare yearly differentials (spikes). What a maroon. I almost feel sorry for your family.
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Economics is always about percentage change. I'm sorry you have no education.
 
Platinumdrgn said:
Economics is always about percentage change. I'm sorry you have no education.
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[roll] ...so only the percentage matters in Economics? Not the amount change, but the percentage change?

And if you don't measure by percentage, you have "no education?"

You are even dumber than I thought you were, which I didn't think possible. And just for you, I measured that metric as a percentage. You are 192% dumber than I ever thought possible.
 
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AustinTXCat said:
No, initial translation provided by a former UKR diplomat. Apparently UKR troops killed RUS wounded, which goes against laws of land warfare (Hague and Geneva Conventions).
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Well, back to my first point. I know a lot of those soldiers didn’t sign up for it but the shits gotta stop and maybe that way will help. I admit I don’t know what I’m talking about.
 
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