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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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90% of our country just wants to be left alone. The 10% of you guys (on both sides) trying to rally in the streets against a fake oppressor are the real issue here.
The media doesn’t want to leave you alone they want this to be the next wedge issue now that corona has worn out it’s usefulness
 
The media doesn’t want to leave you alone they want this to be the next wedge issue now that corona has worn out it’s usefulness
It's working, you are foaming at the damn mouth about it.

Seriously though, between the four or five "news" sources I utilize, very few of them provide more than a brief actual update and then a bunch of spin. If you can't see that for what it is, that's on you.
 
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It’s not insane at all. Did Putin release the China virus? No. Did he wreck millions of people financially? No. Does he abuse us on a daily basis like the Washington establishment does? Did he kill hundreds of thousands of unborn babies per year to the tune of about 60 million since 1973? Why would you support anything this country does anymore or think that we’re some kind of force for righteousness. Why would you believe anything the sick media tells you ?

Biden won’t even do anything. He can’t. Because most of the country hates our own government more than anything putin could ever do and with good reason. Our house is on fire. We can’t even intervene if it was the right thing to do. The military is weak and watered down. You don’t think VP knows this?

look I got an idea. Everyone who thinks this is a real crisis you should enlist. What’s stopping you. You love war go fight? And we’ll laugh when you’re dead before lunchtime. You don’t have the support of anyone else anymore so go please your Chinese masters and your illegitimate pedophile president and fight

You lost me at the abortion nonsense, booms.

That’s a personal decision made by a woman and her doctor and the church nor state don’t have any business in that arena. Let me guess, you’re the naïve type who thinks if something is illegal it will stop - just like drug smuggling and gun running has stopp…wait. The only thing prohibition does is create dangerous black markets.

Don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t marry a dude. And on and on and on.

The military is allegedly weak and watered down, yet we spend more on defense than the next 10 nations combined?

Trump lost and got his ass handed to him in court with his fraud claims. Judges he appointed ruled against him in some cases. Get the f over it already.

Now go back to your hole, crank up the Newsmax, pull the shades closed and fap to that shit until you rub it raw or pull it off.
 
You lost me at the abortion nonsense, booms.

That’s a personal decision made by a woman and her doctor and the church nor state don’t have any business in that arena. Let me guess, you’re the naïve type who thinks if something is illegal it will stop - just like drug smuggling and gun running has stopp…wait. The only thing prohibition does is create dangerous black markets.

Don’t like abortion? Don’t get one. Don’t like gay marriage? Don’t marry a dude. And on and on and on.

The military is allegedly weak and watered down, yet we spend more on defense than the next 10 nations combined?

Trump lost and got his ass handed to him in court with his fraud claims. Judges he appointed ruled against him in some cases. Get the f over it already.

Now go back to your hole, crank up the Newsmax, pull the shades closed and fap to that shit until you rub it raw or pull it off.
No it’s not. It’s mass infanticide and it’s the biggest reason why this country will be destroyed if it’s not ended. It’s not a personal decision any more than it would be a personal decision for me to beat you until you were dead with a crowbar.

what does a country deserve whose leaders won’t stand up for innocent life ? What do those leaders deserve? I think you’ll find out the answer in the coming years

I want to see Washington burning to the ground for their crimes. You keep crying about putin who’s half a world away
 
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Oh you don’t like what I have to say so you want me banned. Well go ahead. If you agree with the murder of unborn children you yourself deserve to die. End of story

Start an abortion thread and don't threaten people, you've mentioned people in this thread dying in 3/4's of your posts, and we can discuss that topic. This is a very different matter that has nothing to do with your mental illness.
 
Start an abortion thread and don't threaten people, you've mentioned people in this thread dying in 3/4's of your posts, and we can discuss that topic. This is a very different matter that has nothing to do with your mental illness.
I didn’t threaten anyone sir maybe you can’t read very well. I said that abortion is an act of violence just as despicable as if I bashed anyone else’s skull in because that’s what they do in an abortion they crush the skull of a child. Sorry it upsets you but that’s reality
 
Let me guess, you’re the naïve type who thinks if something is illegal it will stop - just like drug smuggling and gun running has stopp…wait. The only thing prohibition does is create dangerous black markets.

Yup. The big city murder rate in the country keeps going up and up, despite murder being illegal. Let me guess, you are the naive type that would have us get rid of all criminal laws because they don’t a stop crime.
 
No it’s not. It’s mass infanticide and it’s the biggest reason why this country will be destroyed if it’s not ended. It’s not a personal decision any more than it would be a personal decision for me to beat you until you were dead with a crowbar.

what does a country deserve whose leaders won’t stand up for innocent life ? What do those leaders deserve? I think you’ll find out the answer in the coming years

I want to see Washington burning to the ground for their crimes. You keep crying about putin who’s half a world away

Hi Air Raid Freshman. Back again under another strange name, I see. Looks like you still haven't gotten that paranoia issue resolved.
 
I didn’t threaten anyone sir maybe you can’t read very well. I said that abortion is an act of violence just as despicable as if I bashed anyone else’s skull in because that’s what they do in an abortion they crush the skull of a child. Sorry it upsets you but that’s reality
I was more so referring to you telling me to go to Ukraine and get my face blown off since everyone hates me but the point stands. You clearly hate abortion. That's great. Not what we are talking about here and you're not really moving the needle in regards to conversation about this issue other than pillorying your own country.

Like I said, start an abortion thread and I'll hop in there with some stories for you to ruminate on.
 
Putin ain't gonna fire any Nukes. He's not going to wipe his own daughters off the face of the earth. He BADLY miscalculated, ruined his whole country and is fooked, one way or another. I predict he goes completely insane after being absolutely bombarded from every direction to include Companies, citizens, Russian sports teams, on and on and on. The only way they can be allowed to rejoin the world now is to oust him.
 
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You're being a dick and not really contributing. It was natural we would discuss politics in this thread, but why are you talking about abortion? You think our government goes out and personally kills the unborn? The media? You're worried about the media? I got news for you man, that corner you retreated to for "news" is also controlled by powers that want to sway you. You're not smarter than everyone else because you are a founding member of the ALL AMERICAN RED BLOOD NEWS NETWORK.

It's also interesting that you are positing that we love war. I sure as hell don't. Doubt anyone posting here wants Russia fighting Ukraine right now. Why? Because our next global war will be humanity's last. No interest in that here, friend.

Our house is on fire, for sure, but it's on fire because people like you exist and push narratives and can't spend 10 minutes thinking to talk to someone and reach a logical conclusion about something without jumping tangents to something completely unrelated. One issue at a time, please.
Yes they’re complicit in it both ideologically because they worship the devil and want to decrease the population and financially
 
It’s just so cute to me after 20 years of weakness and appeasement and decimating the American military…now the left wants war with Russia. Who could’ve guessed it?

well like I said you’re welcome to enlist and put your money where your mouth is instead of wearing Ukraine hats and dancing for TikTok
 
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Im cheering for a Russian coup to end this nonsense.

Also, I have no idea, but if Putin decided to engage with nuclear weapons wouldn’t there have to be sufficient support from the Russian military power structure to actually carry it out? I would assume, at a minimum, it would take 5 to 10 people performing some action to initiate the firing of a nuclear weapon. I refuse to believe he has a suitcase in his bedroom with a big red button in it. I mean, anyone with a brain knows what the price would be for firing, so would that order from Putin be a catalyst for his own military to step in and end him?
 
Shell pulls out of Gazprom deal. The ripple effect....the number of people that Putin has effected, negatively, can't even be counted. I don't see how he survives this for very long, whether he wins Ukraine or not.

Popular uprising or palace coup or some combination thereof, for $1000, Alex. Make that "popular putsch" and "Kremlin coup" instead of "popular uprising" and "palace coup" for the alliteration.
 
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Im cheering for a Russian coup to end this nonsense.

Also, I have no idea, but if Putin decided to engage with nuclear weapons wouldn’t there have to be sufficient support from the Russian military power structure to actually carry it out? I would assume, at a minimum, it would take 5 to 10 people performing some action to initiate the firing of a nuclear weapon. I refuse to believe he has a suitcase in his bedroom with a big red button in it. I mean, anyone with a brain knows what the price would be for firing, so would that order from Putin be a catalyst for his own military to step in and end him?

I would hope not but there have been plenty of unfathomable things done by the military throughout history just "carrying out orders."
 
It’s just so cute to me after 20 years of weakness and appeasement and decimating the American military…now the left wants war with Russia. Who could’ve guessed it?

well like I said you’re welcome to enlist and put your money where your mouth is instead of wearing Ukraine hats and dancing for TikTok

No one wants war. If they do, they are incredibly dumb. Also, your point about the left wanting war and weakness and appeasement misses the mark when you consider that 12 of those 20 years were helmed by Republicans. Maybe if we didn't have three of the worst presidents in regards to international policy (Biden, Bush & Trump) during that time, things would have gone differently.
 
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I’m not in favor of what Putin is doing, but some of his claims about there being Nazis/neo-Nazis in Ukraine aren’t inaccurate.

Name nearly any country in the past 10 years and I can show you "pockets" of neo-nazism. Realistically, it's a way to villainize hyper-nationalism/isolationism that saw rise under Trump and similar Eastern European leaders. It's lazy and pathetic.

But, there's also a ton of young military dudes that are susceptible to silly mindsets and what they may think as "strong" behavior, much like Putin and the KGB.

The Ukraine elected a Jew with their first semi-real election. I'd say neo-nazism isn't exactly rampant.
 
Name nearly any country in the past 10 years and I can show you "pockets" of neo-nazism. Realistically, it's a way to villainize hyper-nationalism/isolationism that saw rise under Trump and similar Eastern European leaders. It's lazy and pathetic.

But, there's also a ton of young military dudes that are susceptible to silly mindsets and what they may think as "strong" behavior, much like Putin and the KGB.

The Ukraine elected a Jew with their first semi-real election. I'd say neo-nazism isn't exactly rampant.
You’re right about that. The far right wing groups in Ukraine have been welcomed into the Ukrainian army. To what extent are Nazis an issue in Ukraine is the debate I suppose. I’m not knowledgeable enough to have a strong opinion on that. I’d say most people don’t know about the political makeup of Ukraine.
 
It’s just so cute to me after 20 years of weakness and appeasement and decimating the American military…now the left wants war with Russia. Who could’ve guessed it?

well like I said you’re welcome to enlist and put your money where your mouth is instead of wearing Ukraine hats and dancing for TikTok
The US military is not decimated. In fact, we have invested heavily over the last
10+ Years specifically to counter the Russian and Chinese threats. In a 1v1 matchup we could still eradicate any country in the world even when Russia and China invest heavily to grow their technological capabilities.

Unfortunately it’s not that easy and in the geopolitical landscape going to war with Russia or any country with a significant military would be an existential problem. Because of that, trust me when I say no one with any rational mind wants to go to war with Russia.
 
I’m not in favor of what Putin is doing, but some of his claims about there being Nazis/neo-Nazis in Ukraine aren’t inaccurate.

Oh my. Well, there are evil sick people in Russia, in France, in USA, etc. We best all get in line and wait for savior Putin to invade and clean up the streets of other countries.
 
No one wants war. If they do, they are incredibly dumb. Also, your point about the left wanting war and weakness and appeasement misses the mark when you consider that 12 of those 20 years were helmed by Republicans. Maybe if we didn't have three of the worst presidents in regards to international policy (Biden, Bush & Trump) during that time, things would have gone differently.
Good lord, Trumps foreign policy was miles ahead of anything we’ve had since Reagan.
 
How so?

Secularists like myself don’t view you or anyone else as lesser if you choose to have telepathic conversations with the deity of your choice. I love a lot of highly religious people. I’m just not one of them.

We just don’t want your religious teachings or the teachings of other faiths plastered on public buildings or legislated onto our backs via archaic blue laws (No liquor on Sundays, dry counties, etc.)

I’m beyond OK with religion UNTIL I am expected to live my life by the rules of said religion.
False, you may not but a big portion of them do.
 
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