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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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The town I live in near the Nicaraguan border has quite a few Russians. They generally are not happy. These are people who still have family and property in russia. Not happy and the reason Putin is gonna bring in the Chechens is because the russian sees Ukraine as brothers.

I think Putin made a bad miscalculation and I don’t think He deals too well with that. I’m concerned he may do some serious damage. His best play was to take eastern Ukraine the Donbas. I’m actually surprised he went all in.
Yeah he’s a nut. Hope to God he gets what’s coming to him before many innocent lives are lost. F that dude and the Chechens.
 
If you invade, you take down communications, which hasn't been done. Internet is fine. Phones are fine. I've watched videos of people doing business as usual there, so this is all so odd. Turned it all off for the night to login here, but may go back to watching foreign media. I don't know what y'all are watching to get what you're getting
Yea. We are getting propaganda for sure. I hope Ukraine defends itself but I don't want Nato or America to get in this fight. The woman with the bloody face was actually a gas explosion a few years back, the snake island guys ended up surrendering and the ghost of kyiv is largely considered a propaganda story. The only story that might be true is that a guy detonated a bridge personally when the remote failed.
 
Yea. We are getting propaganda for sure. I hope Ukraine defends itself but I don't want Nato or America to get in this fight. The woman with the bloody face was actually a gas explosion a few years back, the snake island guys ended up surrendering and the ghost of kyiv is largely considered a propaganda story. The only story that might be true is that a guy detonated a bridge personally when the remote failed.
But did the island dudes really tell them to go F themselves? That’s a win at any level cause it was absolutely awesome in my book. Took some major balls too.
 
But did the island dudes really tell them to go F themselves? That’s a win at any level cause it was absolutely awesome in my book. Took some major balls too.
So if they said gfys but Russia fired a salvo and they surrendered.... You don't see the difference from what was reported?
 


Live feed. not sure if it will stay up after live stream ends but if you want to understand the war go to about the 11:35:00 mark. they do a deep dive on Putin.
 
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Hope he’s wrong.
He did not say 99% of Ukrainians were Russians. He said 99% of the people of Kyiv would be hiding in their basements not participating in guerilla warfare. They would be too scared. He said even if they hide or participate in guerilla warfare from the buildings in the city Russia would roll in with missile launchers and using thermobaric missiles and destroy the buildings slaughtering everyone. He also said Putin is slow playing his advance to let the Ukrainians have time to understand their actual position and surrender. Putin doesn't want to destroy the infrastructure.
 
Retired Army Colonel just on Fox said Putin is moving slow on purpose in hopes of them giving up so he doesn’t have to rebuild and that it’s getting close to him going with plan B, which is to evicerate the place with much nastier weaponry, that he has.

He said 99%of Kyiv are Russians, are hiding in their cellars until this is over and the civilians fighting are a tiny percentage of Kyiv.

Hope he’s wrong but starting to think this may headed that way.
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Dear god putin, dont do this.
 
If you invade, you take down communications, which hasn't been done. Internet is fine. Phones are fine. I've watched videos of people doing business as usual there, so this is all so odd. Turned it all off for the night to login here, but may go back to watching foreign media. I don't know what y'all are watching to get what you're getting
Russia doesn't care about communications in Ukraine. There is no one Ukraine can call. No one is coming to help them. They are being hit from four sides. It is just a matter of time before Ukraine surrenders unless Putin changes his mind. Food production and importation has ended. The only reason they have running water is because Putin doesn't want to have to rebuild the infrastructure. Russia has air superiority. If you think this is not an invasion I find that very strange. Do you think this is all being staged? Like the moon landings supposedly were?
 
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Russia doesn't care about communications in Ukraine. There is no one Ukraine can call. No one is coming to help them. They are being hit from four sides. It is just a matter of time before Ukraine surrenders unless Putin changes his mind. Food production and importation has ended. The only reason they have running water is because Putin doesn't want to have to rebuild the infrastructure. Russia has air superiority. If you think this is not an invasion I find that very strange. Do you think this is all being staged? Like the moon landings supposedly were?
Video is a powerful weapon. If Russia "could" kill all video coming out.... they would.
 
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The Ukraine and associated power structure they’re demilitarizing is an aberrant unnatural thing with foreign ideals and artificially placed leaders — and the corrupted, CIA infested, human trafficking friendly space that festered there for years —— is past due for a torching and eradication
You forgot the “they be woke, and poisoned by critical race theory.”
 
Not for Putin. This is his blitzkrieg shock and awe. He won’t get bogged down in Ukraine.
Hmmm.

Something(s) have gone wrong.

Russia’s air power should have been sufficient to neutralize Ukraine’s obsolescent Soviet era air in the first 24 hours. It hasn’t done so yet.

Films are emerging of entire tank columns running out of fuel, with Ukrainian motorists offering to “pull you back to Russia.”

A young Ukrainian in taking out a bridge, took himself out, apparently with a smile.

If Putin “wins” it will be by destroying the entire infrastructure of 1/6th of the former Soviet Union, and by the absorption of a crippled client state, with an added “poison pill” of the diaspora of 10 million permanently pissed off affluent Ukrainians scattered across the Free World.

And that is what “victory” will look like.

And “defeat” or a political settlement less than surrender of Ukraine will be worse.
 
We promised not to expand nato past germany but we are right on Russias border. Parts of our government have wanted this war for 20 years and determined to get it.
So, we have insidiously founded or encouraged republics and democracies, demonically advanced the cultural, economic and social interests of our European forbears, all to the belittlement of a country traditionally of extreme authoritarian/totalitarian bent?

GOOD GOD MAN, SOMEONE MUST BE SHOT!!

If our leaders continue to act in such blatant regard for our national and international interests and the inherent rights of mankind, may God have mercy on our collective soul!!
 
That article explains the US and European involvement in Ukraine. How would America act if Russia did the same thing in Canada? I’m not saying Putin is the good guy here, but it’s important to understand what some of his motives are and how we’ve played a hand in it.
If Putin tried to establish a rules-based, thriving pluralistic, affluent, capitalistic, democratic country on our border, I would cheer him on!

And if he could make the maple-leave lovin’ bastards pronounce their vowels correctly, he would go down in history as the most-beloved foreign leader in our lifetimes.
 
So, we have insidiously founded or encouraged republics and democracies, demonically advanced the cultural, economic and social interests of our European forbears, all to the belittlement of a country traditionally of extreme authoritarian/totalitarian bent?

GOOD GOD MAN, SOMEONE MUST BE SHOT!!

If our leaders continue to act in such blatant regard for our national and international interests and the inherent rights of mankind, may God have mercy on our collective soul!!

He's not wrong.

 
So, we have insidiously founded or encouraged republics and democracies, demonically advanced the cultural, economic and social interests of our European forbears, all to the belittlement of a country traditionally of extreme authoritarian/totalitarian bent?

GOOD GOD MAN, SOMEONE MUST BE SHOT!!

If our leaders continue to act in such blatant regard for our national and international interests and the inherent rights of mankind, may God have mercy on our collective soul!!
Wait are you not getting your news from Russian Propog.....errrr the Right Wing news sources?
 
Here's a question for everyone. Can you identify the Russian based posters in our political thread? They are there. Guarantee it. Another active political forum I post in has policed several of them out. The Political Thread here has done no such thing so there is definitely at least one or two in there sharing Russian created nonsense aimed at right wing Americans to disenfranchise them on democracy and encourage them to be more authoritarian.
 
Hmmm.

Something(s) have gone wrong.

Russia’s air power should have been sufficient to neutralize Ukraine’s obsolescent Soviet era air in the first 24 hours. It hasn’t done so yet.

Films are emerging of entire tank columns running out of fuel, with Ukrainian motorists offering to “pull you back to Russia.”

A young Ukrainian in taking out a bridge, took himself out, apparently with a smile.

If Putin “wins” it will be by destroying the entire infrastructure of 1/6th of the former Soviet Union, and by the absorption of a crippled client state, with an added “poison pill” of the diaspora of 10 million permanently pissed off affluent Ukrainians scattered across the Free World.

And that is what “victory” will look like.

And “defeat” or a political settlement less than surrender of Ukraine will be worse.
Yeah, I do think that Putin expected a different opponent. As stated in another post, I also think he does not want to have to rebuild the Ukraine. It certainly has not progressed as I expected, which has been good news.
 
Russia doesn't care about communications in Ukraine. There is no one Ukraine can call. No one is coming to help them. They are being hit from four sides. It is just a matter of time before Ukraine surrenders unless Putin changes his mind. Food production and importation has ended. The only reason they have running water is because Putin doesn't want to have to rebuild the infrastructure. Russia has air superiority. If you think this is not an invasion I find that very strange. Do you think this is all being staged? Like the moon landings supposedly were?
One Ukrainian interviewed said that Russian interests own the communication systems/infrastructures in Ukraine.
 
Here's a question for everyone. Can you identify the Russian based posters in our political thread? They are there. Guarantee it. Another active political forum I post in has policed several of them out. The Political Thread here has done no such thing so there is definitely at least one or two in there sharing Russian created nonsense aimed at right wing Americans to disenfranchise them on democracy and encourage them to be more authoritarian.

I honestly believe you. Guaranteed there are Russians on FB, Twitter, et al, trying to stir Americans up against each other. Have been for years.
 
Here's a question for everyone. Can you identify the Russian based posters in our political thread? They are there. Guarantee it. Another active political forum I post in has policed several of them out. The Political Thread here has done no such thing so there is definitely at least one or two in there sharing Russian created nonsense aimed at right wing Americans to disenfranchise them on democracy and encourage them to be more authoritarian.
Authoritarian Right? LMAO. Always blame the other side for what you are.
 
Wait are you not getting your news from Russian Propog.....errrr the Right Wing news sources?
Hillary actually spreads the most Russian propaganda to try and alter democracy and win an election. (Treason type of sh$t) Your “news” sources probably haven’t told you that its been confirmed by an independent investigation, beyond the shadow of a doubt, and that indictments are coming within her campaign. The hypocrisy from the left is mind-blowing and gutless.. Always accusing the right of bad behavior while doing it themselves and denying it/lying about it. Pathetic. “Fact checker”. lmao
 
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Here's a question for everyone. Can you identify the Russian based posters in our political thread? They are there. Guarantee it. Another active political forum I post in has policed several of them out. The Political Thread here has done no such thing so there is definitely at least one or two in there sharing Russian created nonsense aimed at right wing Americans to disenfranchise them on democracy and encourage them to be more authoritarian.
Name them and shame them or shut up….
 
If you invade, you take down communications, which hasn't been done. Internet is fine. Phones are fine. I've watched videos of people doing business as usual there, so this is all so odd. Turned it all off for the night to login here, but may go back to watching foreign media. I don't know what y'all are watching to get what you're getting
If this was a traditional war you would be correct, but it isn't. This is the same kind of war you have seen the US attempt to conduct for decades, a war for the hearts and minds.

Putin wants the Ukrainians to see him as a liberator, not a conqueror. Therefore, he has to maintain a least a bit of "civility" in his aggression. He also doesn't want to tear the country to pieces because Russia cannot afford to rebuild everything they destroy.

Today, Russia agreed to sit down with the Ukraine government. Imo, that will fail because neither side will negotiate in good faith. If that happens, you will see the mask slip and the dogs of war will be released.
 
I honestly believe you. Guaranteed there are Russians on FB, Twitter, et al, trying to stir Americans up against each other. Have been for years.
Yep, Catsillustrated is known to be a vital information outlet for spreading vital international messaging to subvert the political infrastructure of a democratic world.

Who knew? 🤪
 
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