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If H1Bs can freely transfer visas in such a way that they aren’t barred from changing jobs by law, administrative burden, time or other factors present in the process then I guess we have a different understanding of the practical limitations in place.
They can freely change jobs if the new employer files an H1b petition for them. The only situation where the H1B worker is tied to their current employer is if that current employer is currently sponsoring them for a Green Card. That can't be transferred.
 
Greed and backend bonuses or direct purchases of pet items... The dough made is not needed to operate. Profits are okay... I have always been one to charge a reasonable price to make a reasonable profit, guess that is why I sold my business with a dozen employees about 20 years ago. I was too nice... I could have made a lot more. Did okay anyway but... if I had only got prices closer to what other businesses were charging, I would have been a lot better off but I am not complaining now in any event...

I told many of my customers; "I want to get rich but not just from what I charge you."
I have zero problem with profits but the tech industry is being handled the same as the manufacturing industries were handled. They will do anything to reduce the cost of labor. Offshoring or in-shoring which costs Americans jobs and will reduce the overall quality of life in the states.'
 
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They can freely change jobs if the new employer files an H1b petition for them. The only situation where the H1B worker is tied to their current employer is if that current employer is currently sponsoring them for a Green Card. That can't be transferred.
Most of my friends find that process to be a risk. The new employer could change their mind about hiring them and then back to their country of origin they go. Budgets can change and jobs disappear. Hiring managers terminated and the new hiring manager could want someone else for the job.
 
The whole "indentured servant" argument is idiotic. Fist off, when did MAGA become an advocate for foreign worker rights? Second, H1Bs can leave their job and go to another one and transfer the H1B to another qualifying job. They are not slaves.

You are confusing "foreign worker" and "illegal".
 
Most of my friends find that process to be a risk. The new employer could change their mind about hiring them and then back to their country of origin they go. Budgets can change and jobs disappear. Hiring managers terminated and the new hiring manager could want someone else for the job.


Where I see businesses or business processes fail are not accounting for the backend costs of the intended outcomes.
 
Where I see businesses or business processes fail are not accounting for the backend costs of the intended outcomes.
For companies with more money than Midas they tend to overlook much of that until a bean counter or a member of senior leadership sees something that will impact the stock price or their bonus.
 
For companies with more money than Midas they tend to overlook much of that until a bean counter or a member of senior leadership sees something that will impact the stock price or their bonus.

Yeah, I shied away from involving myself with that type. Stayed in my own low-class indefinitely (Stole a little of that from Rooster Cogburn.) ;)
 
Posted this in GYERO, but in the Christmas spirit, I'm bringing it here as well. To spread the joy.


tangent to the When Does Christmas End thread:

For my next door neighbor, a man in his mid/late 60's, it ended yesterday.

Last night, 3 cop cars showed up. Turns out that his "girlfriend" (whom he met at the RED MILE 🤣 🤣) took a dislike to something or other. And then she "took" a ball peen hammer to: his 70 inch flat screen, half the kitchen cabinets, a couple of windows, tiled shower etc.

She was escorted from the premises, and now there is a huge pile of crap, which I'm assuming are her belongings, on his front porch.

No word on how the Christmas tree fared.
Riding the crazy train can be fun but eventually you’re going to suffer the consequences.

Their names are usually like Kristie or Tammy.
 
HAHA,

Please explain the nuisances of..... Information Fusion... It's the rage it seems now...
 
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Poor kids went home hungry bc they didn't get enough to eat, with her program, and for many thats the only meal they get.

It's amazing you'll believe literally anything that's put on paper regardless of how it works in reality
Nobody went home hungry. 😂😂😂😂😂
I was working in schools back then. There was plenty of fat filled food to go along with the additional healthy sides.
Brainwashed.
 
You clueless dolt. This right here speaks volumes about her ignorance: This motivated her to take on childhood obesity. She set her sights on schools because “the most important place to start tackling this issue is in our schools.”

You can try to educate in the schools, but the actions and the discipline starts in the home. Slapping some fruits and veggies on a plate for what may be the only meal some get doesn't even sniff the obesity issue. You think these kids aren't heading to the nearest 7/11 for some twinkies after school?

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.
Yeah.... Just terrible exposing kids to some fresh fruits and vegetables that their families can't afford or have access to in poorer neighborhoods without full grocery stores.
But now we suddenly care about nutrition and healthy foods. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Idiots
 
Ironic that you guys spent the last 4 years shitting on colleges saying they’re too woke and don’t produce good students anymore (which was never true). Now you expect these companies to hire American students from schools you’ve been bashing? Which is it?

Of course none of the bashing you did was valid. Oh sure, I’ll bet there was a professor or 2 that did something stupid. And I didn’t like the dump protests over Palestine either. But I never shit on the schools like you guys did. We still pump out extremely bright kids. And I agree that the big companies here should be looking to hire inwards first also. Are you surprised companies are willing to hire cheaper labor from elsewhere though? All they care about is making money.

That’s my point, you illiterate dumbass. Google, Facebook, Apple, etc. should be forced to choose from the talent pool they’ve helped destroy.

Or, if you think the American education system is pumping out enough qualified candidates, then clearly the H1B system is just about importing cheap labor.

Americans who are succeeding are doing it in spite of the failing school systems.
 
Seems like everyone is in agreement that US based companies should not be able to import cheap foreign workers if the domestic talent is available, though potentially more expensive.

This all feels like the democrat resistance to cleaning up voter roles or having voter ID. If you don’t think there’s an issue, and the processes are working to safeguard America, then why resist efforts to clean things up?
 
His big one was his red tape regulations on capitalism. Another was him being in the pockets of China to force feed EV vehicles upon this country.

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.
You're such an idiot. You regurgitate the words "communism" and "socialism" with no clue what the words actually mean.
Red tape regulations are not communism. It's government policies.
You may not like the policies....but it's not even close to communism. 🤣
Communism is when the government takes complete charge of factories, businesses and all means of production.
Please cite the source showing that Biden seized control of Ford Motor Company and took over production of all motor vehicles in America.
Are you even aware of the battery plants being built in Ky so we don't have to be dependent on China for our EVs?
Educate yourself about the true definition of communism before sounding like a chicken little alarmist. 🐣
 
Seems like everyone is in agreement that US based companies should not be able to import cheap foreign workers if the domestic talent is available, though potentially more expensive.

This all feels like the democrat resistance to cleaning up voter roles or having voter ID. If you don’t think there’s an issue, and the processes are working to safeguard America, then why resist efforts to clean things up?
Since when in our history have immigrants not been the basis for entry level cheap manual or factory labor???
But you think that ends in 2025? Only if you wanna see our economy tank.
There aren't enough Americans to fill all those needed jobs and we are currently at a zero birth rate in this country.
Whether you tighty righties like it or not.... We need immigrants badly or this economy dies.
 
If there should be any blowback on the h1b visas, it should be in the medical community. If you want to see a profession where greed used imports to drive down American wages, there you go.

Essentially most every hospital uses these for cheap er labor. Since the foreign md candidate has to do 2 years here (iirc) before they have a full license, they get stuck in the er working 80 hours a week for about 40k. If they are a specialist or higher, they get used as slave labor there too.

In that industry, the abuse of these visas absolutely do drive down us wages and they effectively created this shortage of doctors we now have. I say abuse caused it because this practice of low wage is supposed to be disallowed but apparently noone looks into it.

The problem explaining this to people is the lack of real education about how markets work. Real estate illustrates the lesson well, but few are taught how.

Chevy Chase in Lexington is a high end market. Homes there sell for phenomenally higher prices when compared to existing homes along Versailles Rd near Mason Headley. An appraiser CANNOT use a comparable sale from that area of Versailles Rd to estimate value on a property located on DeShay in Chevy Chase. It's an entirely different market.

What we have allowed the govt to do is bring in homes from a trailer park and put them on lots with the value of Chevy Chase lots. That's what "open markets" do, and it doesn't RAISE values for the double wide they brought in. It LOWERS values for the rest of the homes in the vicinity and eventually the entire subdivision as more mobile homes are added.

The point in MARKETS is that the products need to be produced in the market area and support the values of a market area, or it hurts the market. Competition WITHIN the market area is good. Competition from outside the market leads to an imbalance that destroys the market value in both wages and property value.

If the govt is not going to hang tariffs on goods imported from other markets with much lower wage scales and values, then they need to lower taxes and fees by the proportional difference in wages of those in the outside market, because the budget and the entire market is unsustainable otherwise, as this govt has well proven.
 
That may be correct in some instances but the industry will lay older employees off who are high earners to replace them with H1Bs. They will also follow DEI to ensure the right people are hired that meet the correct criteria while paying them less since they do not have the skills or experience. They use DEI to adjust the percentages of who they employ to ensure they meet certain criteria even tying SLT bonuses to hiring success.

Most of these companies are still hiring while laying people off. They will jettison high performers instead of moving them to a new product. They used to move high performing employees to a new team but now they lay them off and hire cheaper labor.

There are no older workers. There are hardly any programmers that have gray hair, let alone aging.

The whole issue about h1b is some hypothetical nonsense from people with no knowledge of that industry and its uniqueness. Theyre just plain wrong.

The answer is to clean up our education system so there isnt a need to import talent.
 
Since when in our history have immigrants not been the basis for entry level cheap manual or factory labor???
But you think that ends in 2025? Only if you wanna see our economy tank.
There aren't enough Americans to fill all those needed jobs and we are currently at a zero birth rate in this country.
Whether you tighty righties like it or not.... We need immigrants badly or this economy dies.


As I said, you illiterate dunce, if Americans are available, cheap foreign labor shouldn’t be imported to do the jobs.
 
The problem explaining this to people is the lack of real education about how markets work. Real estate illustrates the lesson well, but few are taught how.

Chevy Chase in Lexington is a high end market. Homes there sell for phenomenally higher prices when compared to existing homes along Versailles Rd near Mason Headley. An appraiser CANNOT use a comparable sale from that area of Versailles Rd to estimate value on a property located on DeShay in Chevy Chase. It's an entirely different market.

What we have allowed the govt to do is bring in homes from a trailer park and put them on lots with the value of Chevy Chase lots. That's what "open markets" do, and it doesn't RAISE values for the double wide they brought in. It LOWERS values for the rest of the homes in the vicinity and eventually the entire subdivision as more mobile homes are added.

The point in MARKETS is that the products need to be produced in the market area and support the values of a market area, or it hurts the market. Competition WITHIN the market area is good. Competition from outside the market leads to an imbalance that destroys the market value in both wages and property value.

If the govt is not going to hang tariffs on goods imported from other markets with much lower wage scales and values, then they need to lower taxes and fees by the proportional difference in wages of those in the outside market, because the budget and the entire market is unsustainable otherwise, as this govt has well proven.

Run for office! You get it!
 
Since when in our history have immigrants not been the basis for entry level cheap manual or factory labor???
But you think that ends in 2025? Only if you wanna see our economy tank.
There aren't enough Americans to fill all those needed jobs and we are currently at a zero birth rate in this country.
Whether you tighty righties like it or not.... We need immigrants badly or this economy dies.
Ah yes, the democrat who is in favor of paying under the table and having people live with 20 in a two bed room apartment. Anything else you need to add Corporate Oligarch?
 
Sanity returns.

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It's amazing how much has changed from December 2016-December 2024.

I was watching Man in the Arena, that Tom Brady doc the other day and was reminded of how he didn't go to the White House for the Super Bowl celebration cause of fear of media with Trump. And how everything was just constant hysteria from the left.

All that has changed really is just fatigue of the left and seeing how much the Democrat Party sucks ass with the four years they just gave us. Trump didn't do anything. It's just what the left has done--- create chaos, kill the economy, flood your country with illegals and crime, try to imprison and murder their political opposition.
 
The problem explaining this to people is the lack of real education about how markets work. Real estate illustrates the lesson well, but few are taught how.

Chevy Chase in Lexington is a high end market. Homes there sell for phenomenally higher prices when compared to existing homes along Versailles Rd near Mason Headley. An appraiser CANNOT use a comparable sale from that area of Versailles Rd to estimate value on a property located on DeShay in Chevy Chase. It's an entirely different market.

What we have allowed the govt to do is bring in homes from a trailer park and put them on lots with the value of Chevy Chase lots. That's what "open markets" do, and it doesn't RAISE values for the double wide they brought in. It LOWERS values for the rest of the homes in the vicinity and eventually the entire subdivision as more mobile homes are added.

The point in MARKETS is that the products need to be produced in the market area and support the values of a market area, or it hurts the market. Competition WITHIN the market area is good. Competition from outside the market leads to an imbalance that destroys the market value in both wages and property value.

If the govt is not going to hang tariffs on goods imported from other markets with much lower wage scales and values, then they need to lower taxes and fees by the proportional difference in wages of those in the outside market, because the budget and the entire market is unsustainable otherwise, as this govt has well proven.
In my "heyday", though I was just a little guy compared to others in my area, I worked 30 people and even paid a portion of their health insurance. People came from all over the United States to our area to buy goods to take home and sell on routes to stores. They drove big trucks they bought from somebody. They stAyed in local motels both here and when on their sales routes. We bought raw goods from suppliers in the Carolina textile mills and from the steel industry among other places. We as a country started importing goods made with slave labor from China. We couldn't compete, so our industry and related jobs are gone.
 
This is a dumb decision and something he would've done in his first term as well. MAGA does not f'g want people like Mike Johnson.

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Hopefully Trump gained access to whatever compromising information the establishment has been using to keep Johnson in line. He sucks, sucks doubly with Thune leading the Senate.

I understand wanting to avoid a political fight for Speaker before even getting started on the MAGA agenda, but think this could backfire in a major way. Johnson is an establishment cuck.
 
This is a dumb decision and something he would've done in his first term as well. MAGA does not f'g want people like Mike Johnson.

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No, it's not dumb. What's President Trump going to do at this point? Completely alienate him? You have to try something and that something was easy. President Trump knows he has four years. Time is crucial. An extended fight will not allow it... If plan B is required, who knows...
 
Vikings and Lions fans are the new money "lottery winners" that join the blue blood country club, pull up in a tricked out Hummer, shoot 130 with their new 3000 dollar irons (never fixing their prodigious divots), and order chicken fingers and a Diet Coke with no ice at dinner, "and DON'T get stingy with the Ranch dressing..."
 
Seems like everyone is in agreement that US based companies should not be able to import cheap foreign workers if the domestic talent is available, though potentially more expensive.
Yea, I mean plenty of Americans around to pick vegetables, fruits and nuts in CA. Nice weather to boot. What's not to like.

And a lot more to clean hotel rooms.
 
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