POLITICAL THREAD

[BBUK]

I ate "margarine" five or six times knowingly until I saw bugs wouldn't eat it. Stopped and never have again unless someone slipped it into a meal which I do not doubt... I am so past eating chemicals. Of course I still do but I spend a whole lot of time now lessening what comes into my home.. (Food "substitute"-wise now...) Just sickens me what "manufacturers" and FDA and USDA "Payors" get away with for the almighty dollar...

Thank GOD President Trump won again... At least there is a chance and some real hope this criminal activity "will be lessened..."...

 

[Girthang]

Feds finally release photos showing then-VP Biden meeting son Hunter’s China biz partners — days before he leaves office

The cache of photos were released long after their potential political salience and days before Biden retires on Jan. 20.

nypost.com

This sht really pisses me off. They had this before the 2020 election and should've put him in prison for the documents and these meetings alone. Just releasing the truth about this and impeaching him, as well as not letting him perjure himself repeatedly, was the LEAST they could've done. A curse on all of the rinos, politicized agencies, and bureaucrats who covered this all up and refused to act, as well as the perps themselves

 

[Girthang]

If the major H1B abusers weren’t also some of the companies directly responsible for promoting the woke bullshit that has infected the school systems, that’d be a good point.

Google et al can reap what they sowed. Not promote leftist bullshit every step of the way then complain they need foreign workers because they can’t find competent American workers given the lefty bullshit they promote.

EXACTLY!

 

[Girthang]

@55wildcat told us this was your wife

...and daammn, BTW.

 

[vhcat70]

I paid into Social Security for over 50 years Sam.

Only top 35 income years count towards benefit size.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

haha

 

[Girthang]

haha

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Don't know how he hung onto that after the DL hit his hand.

 

[Cleatortoises]

Just curious. Can you name three Communist policies that Biden enacted in the last 4 years? What private industries/companies did Biden seize and place the government in charge of??
Also.... Are you a fan of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc? Those are socialist programs.
Might wanna check your definition of "Communism". 😂

Biden, as we know, didn't enact a damn thing. Problem.
SS, no. My money paid in placed in a simple money market or in the s&p 500 would be exponentially larger.
Medicare, no. Open the state borders and create competition for insurance. Prices go down.
Medicaid, not so much. Citizens only with needs testing.
Socialist programs are for simpleton asshats who want big brother to take care of them.
I recognize people will always vote to give themselves things, that doesn't make em suck less.

 

[Surewhatever]

These tweets are trying to draw conclusions that just arent true. Talk to anyone in tech. There is a massive talent void. They literally cant hire people. Without these visas, production in our tech industry would literally grind to a halt.

Everyone's ire should be on offshoring. That's what actually cuts into wages and their work product is poor.

Then why so many layoffs by tech companies making record profits?

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Then why so many layoffs by tech companies making record profits?

AI doing the jobs

 

[Surewhatever]

AI doing the jobs

Why do they need to hire H1Bs if AI is doing the work?

 

[sambowieshin]

I ate "margarine" five or six times knowingly until I saw bugs wouldn't eat it. Stopped and never have again unless someone slipped it into a meal which I do not doubt... I am so past eating chemicals. Of course I still do but I spend a whole lot of time now lessening what comes into my home.. (Food "substitute"-wise now...) Just sickens me what "manufacturers" and FDA and USDA "Payors" get away with for the almighty dollar...

Thank GOD President Trump won again... At least there is a chance and some real hope this criminal activity "will be lessened..."...

You right wingers are hilarious.
Michelle Obama made a huge push to improve the health of US children with the food they ate in their school lunches and she was completely vilified for it.
Trump trashed her healthy school lunch program as soon as he gained power.
Right wing media called her a commie for trying to place more fruits, vegetables and non processed food on the school menu.
But now that one of your clowns goes all in on healthy foods it is suddenly all the rage. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Remember this??

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/01/526451207/trump-administration-rolls-back-2-of-michelle-obamas-signature-initiatives

Why Michelle Obama Is Wrong on School Lunches

Michelle Obama thinks she knows what your children should eat. She’s adamant about promoting her nutrition policies for kids, even the new and disastrous school meal standards implementing the “Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act.”

www.heritage.org

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[CastleRubric]

Just curious. Can you name three Communist policies that Biden enacted in the last 4 years? What private industries/companies did Biden seize and place the government in charge of??
Also.... Are you a fan of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc? Those are socialist programs.
Might wanna check your definition of "Communism". 😂

The alignment with Marxist ideals comes with the anti-family, anti-faith & "violent criminals are victims of an unjust system & should be released fm prisons" --- those are areas where it seems some segments of US politicians have aligned with Marx

Also - the actual calls for violence as part of a revolution -- thats your revolution of the proletariat Marx says is inevitable

Using foreign ethnicities & people groups to destabilise and gaslighting you into believing youre ideologically isolated & powerless --- those are Stalinist tricka

The purposeful overloading of the welfare system and other aspects of our economy -- thats another purposeful use of conflict to generate new realities -- creation via destruction --- closely align with Marx's "dialectical materialism" and how history happens

Sex with anyone , anything and the removal of all taboos - while also calling marriage "slavery" and decrying the "patriarchal system "
--- thats mostly Marx's coauthor, Freddie Engalls


There are clear Marxist methods and thought forms being more widely applied & leveraged


Reading the Gulag Archipelago will help you understand some of the other tactics and attacks you can expect

Communism and Marx's brand of socialism should both be permanently banned fm any serious political discourse or endeavor just as the German version of National Socialism is no longer considered acceptable politics

There are probably other instances of alignment with that damned man but - those are quickies and offered as a genuine to your question

 

[CastleRubric]

Just curious. Can you name three Communist policies that Biden enacted in the last 4 years? What private industries/companies did Biden seize and place the government in charge of??
Also.... Are you a fan of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid etc? Those are socialist programs.
Might wanna check your definition of "Communism". 😂

Also I know there's a difference between Marx's socialism & the French socialists who I think predated him

So if you're going to talk about socialism we really should clarify -- do you mean

1) methodical means of dividing up the "stuff"
And harnessing capital + the means of production to meet the most needs - healthy government regulation along the way

OR

2) Do you mean Marx's inhumane version where institutions of faith and The Family Unit are entities that must be destroyed - morals are outmoded and the socialist revolution progresses to communism (single state no more socialists) - which then allegedly progresses to "A Stateless Society"


If you are backing Marx then you are.worth resisting with all means possible

 

[AustinTXCat]

** Wise Words Department **

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

-Martin Luther King, Jr.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

The alignment with Marxist ideals comes with the anti-family, anti-faith & "violent criminals are victims of an unjust system & should be released fm prisons" --- those are areas where it seems some segments of US politicians have aligned with Marx

Also - the actual calls for violence as part of a revolution -- thats your revolution of the proletariat Marx says is inevitable

Using foreign ethnicities & people groups to destabilise and gaslighting you into believing youre ideologically isolated & powerless --- those are Stalinist tricka

The purposeful overloading of the welfare system and other aspects of our economy -- thats another purposeful use of conflict to generate new realities -- creation via destruction --- closely align with Marx's "dialectical materialism" and how history happens

Sex with anyone , anything and the removal of all taboos - while also calling marriage "slavery" and decrying the "patriarchal system "
--- thats mostly Marx's coauthor, Freddie Engalls


There are clear Marxist methods and thought forms being more widely applied & leveraged


Reading the Gulag Archipelago will help you understand some of the other tactics and attacks you can expect

Communism and Marx's brand of socialism should both be permanently banned fm any serious political discourse or endeavor just as the German version of National Socialism is no longer considered acceptable politics

There are probably other instances of alignment with that damned man but - those are quickies and offered as a genuine to your question

As well written as this is. There is no way Sam will understand this in the context in what you’ve written. He can’t make the connections. His brain won’t allow it.

 

[AustinTXCat]

you think fellow humans trying to make a better life for their kids is tyranny? and the constitution does not address immigration. the only thing it mentions is naturalization. IT essentailly allows the executive branch to do anything it wants because it falls under foreign affairs. pretty short sighted for it to have never been ammended in early on. Congress can pass laws about it but we have established the last 100 years that the exective can ignore them at its pleasure. hell even the 2 main immigration acts allow the the president to overide most of it.

 

[SDC888]

Our resident leftists have only a very shallow and simplistic understanding of what's being discussed. Like Mikey's "national socialists weren't socialists just because they used the name!!" Sam thinks, "how can we be communists when the state doesn't own everything?"

It's just ignorance: they know nothjing... not like our former resident loser leftists, Dion, or that walking-talking Dunning-Kruger, Dreadlox. They understood what was actually being discussed; they were just unabashedly dishonest, not merely ignorant and naive.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Then why so many layoffs by tech companies making record profits?

AI doing the jobs

Why do they need to hire H1Bs if AI is doing the work?

Ai isn't taking too many programming jobs....yet. Any layoffs are mergers and acquisitions or just the company product flopped.

When i say their product flopping, i mean it never really developed a market. There is so much money in tech, vc firms will literally pump 100s of millions into an idea (you can get a few million funded for basically any functioning idea) to build it out to see if it has a market. That process happens over a few rounds and a few years. If the product flops, the company is done. If its just flat, then personnel are adjusted accordingly.

The best way i can describe tech is its like the gold rush except if the miners all had to be very smart and focused. The money is virtually unlimited but the labor is in short supply. The labor has huge leverage because they are so limited.

People should carefully monitor those on the right pushing this anti work visa nonsense. At best theyre talking about something they don't know. At worst they're trying to wedge off some important people directly responsible for trump winning. If its the latter - we should find out why.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

If there should be any blowback on the h1b visas, it should be in the medical community. If you want to see a profession where greed used imports to drive down American wages, there you go.

Essentially most every hospital uses these for cheap er labor. Since the foreign md candidate has to do 2 years here (iirc) before they have a full license, they get stuck in the er working 80 hours a week for about 40k. If they are a specialist or higher, they get used as slave labor there too.

In that industry, the abuse of these visas absolutely do drive down us wages and they effectively created this shortage of doctors we now have. I say abuse caused it because this practice of low wage is supposed to be disallowed but apparently noone looks into it.

 

[cole854]

Just curious. Can you name three Communist policies that Biden enacted in the last 4 years?

His big one was his red tape regulations on capitalism. Another was him being in the pockets of China to force feed EV vehicles upon this country.

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.

 

[cole854]

You right wingers are hilarious.
Michelle Obama made a huge push to improve the health of US children with the food they ate in their school lunches and she was completely vilified for it.
Trump trashed her healthy school lunch program as soon as he gained power.
Right wing media called her a commie for trying to place more fruits, vegetables and non processed food on the school menu.
But now that one of your clowns goes all in on healthy foods it is suddenly all the rage. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Remember this??

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/01/526451207/trump-administration-rolls-back-2-of-michelle-obamas-signature-initiatives

Why Michelle Obama Is Wrong on School Lunches

Michelle Obama thinks she knows what your children should eat. She’s adamant about promoting her nutrition policies for kids, even the new and disastrous school meal standards implementing the “Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act.”

www.heritage.org

You clueless dolt. This right here speaks volumes about her ignorance: This motivated her to take on childhood obesity. She set her sights on schools because “the most important place to start tackling this issue is in our schools.”

You can try to educate in the schools, but the actions and the discipline starts in the home. Slapping some fruits and veggies on a plate for what may be the only meal some get doesn't even sniff the obesity issue. You think these kids aren't heading to the nearest 7/11 for some twinkies after school?

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

You right wingers are hilarious.
Michelle Obama made a huge push to improve the health of US children with the food they ate in their school lunches and she was completely vilified for it.
Trump trashed her healthy school lunch program as soon as he gained power.
Right wing media called her a commie for trying to place more fruits, vegetables and non processed food on the school menu.
But now that one of your clowns goes all in on healthy foods it is suddenly all the rage. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Remember this??

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/01/526451207/trump-administration-rolls-back-2-of-michelle-obamas-signature-initiatives

Why Michelle Obama Is Wrong on School Lunches

Michelle Obama thinks she knows what your children should eat. She’s adamant about promoting her nutrition policies for kids, even the new and disastrous school meal standards implementing the “Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act.”

www.heritage.org

Poor kids went home hungry bc they didn't get enough to eat, with her program, and for many thats the only meal they get.

It's amazing you'll believe literally anything that's put on paper regardless of how it works in reality

 

[HymanKaplan]

🤣 🤣 🤣

 

[HymanKaplan]

Poor kids went home hungry bc they didn't get enough to eat, with her program, and for many thats the only meal they get.

It's amazing you'll believe literally anything that's put on paper regardless of how it works in reality

This is true. Family Resource Centers had to pick up the slack out of their budgets, by sending home "care packages" of, ironically enough, highly processed food. LOL

I witnessed it myself, and heard it straight from the FRC workers.

 

[Dore95]

If there should be any blowback on the h1b visas, it should be in the medical community. If you want to see a profession where greed used imports to drive down American wages, there you go.

Essentially most every hospital uses these for cheap er labor. Since the foreign md candidate has to do 2 years here (iirc) before they have a full license, they get stuck in the er working 80 hours a week for about 40k. If they are a specialist or higher, they get used as slave labor there too.

In that industry, the abuse of these visas absolutely do drive down us wages and they effectively created this shortage of doctors we now have. I say abuse caused it because this practice of low wage is supposed to be disallowed but apparently noone looks into it.

Couldn't you use the same logic to call hospital residents "slave labor" too?

I generally agree with what you are saying about the H1b issue though - there is a ton of misinformation on X about H1bs - literally lists of low paying positions/jobs, claiming that those are H1bs when they are H2bs (seasonal workers). As for H2bs, if the anti-immigrant types want to go after a work visa, it should be that one. These are low paying jobs (agricultural, working in hotels, resorts, etc.) that Americans could theoretically be doing. I'm not sure why there is such anger about H1bs.

 

[Bill Cosby]

If companies make a good faith effort to find an American to do a job, at market prices, I don’t think anyone would have an issue with that company going to the world talent pool and importing someone who would do the job on the same terms as an American.

Scamming the system and importing indentured servants far below what Americans would be paid is an issue.

And I have no tolerance for the tech companies who’ve pushed all he democrat woke bullshit nonsense now complaining that the American school system isn’t producing the talent they need.

 

[AustinTXCat]

** Wise Words Department **

"Because liberalism typically doesn't sell in American presidential politics, liberal candidates tend to run as culturally conservative centrists."

-Rich Lowry

 

[BBUK]

Then why so many layoffs by tech companies making record profits?

Greed and backend bonuses or direct purchases of pet items... The dough made is not needed to operate. Profits are okay... I have always been one to charge a reasonable price to make a reasonable profit, guess that is why I sold my business with a dozen employees about 20 years ago. I was too nice... I could have made a lot more. Did okay anyway but... if I had only got prices closer to what other businesses were charging, I would have been a lot better off but I am not complaining now in any event...

I told many of my customers; "I want to get rich but not just from what I charge you."

 

[HeismaNole]

 

[HeismaNole]

A leftist shouldn’t be put in charge of a single thing ever.

 

[AustinTXCat]

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Indeed.

Jimmy = Election Denier, Russia Hoax enabler.

 

[Dore95]

Scamming the system and importing indentured servants far below what Americans would be paid is an issue.

The whole "indentured servant" argument is idiotic. Fist off, when did MAGA become an advocate for foreign worker rights? Second, H1Bs can leave their job and go to another one and transfer the H1B to another qualifying job. They are not slaves.

 

[BBUK]

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Yeah I purposely didn't comment on President Carter yesterday. He was nearing the bottom of the barrel as President's have come and gone. Just about the worst until Communists got involved and have ran administrations... O, Biden, communist central administrations ran by communists, Clinton had nothing but himself on his mind and his pleasures, he ran when he needed to up until this very day and Mrs Clinton had much higher aspirations of just getting rich and well off no matter what it took (Once she learned she could get away with it. Yeah Mrs. Clinton learned that she would not be held accountable, then she went on her spree.)...(How old is she now anyway?)

 

[BBUK]

Ai isn't taking too many programming jobs....yet. Any layoffs are mergers and acquisitions or just the company product flopped.

When i say their product flopping, i mean it never really developed a market. There is so much money in tech, vc firms will literally pump 100s of millions into an idea (you can get a few million funded for basically any functioning idea) to build it out to see if it has a market. That process happens over a few rounds and a few years. If the product flops, the company is done. If its just flat, then personnel are adjusted accordingly.

The best way i can describe tech is its like the gold rush except if the miners all had to be very smart and focused. The money is virtually unlimited but the labor is in short supply. The labor has huge leverage because they are so limited.

People should carefully monitor those on the right pushing this anti work visa nonsense. At best theyre talking about something they don't know. At worst they're trying to wedge off some important people directly responsible for trump winning. If its the latter - we should find out why.

I do not fully agree with this though some good points were taken.

 

[HymanKaplan]

Posted this in GYERO, but in the Christmas spirit, I'm bringing it here as well. To spread the joy.


tangent to the When Does Christmas End thread:

For my next door neighbor, a man in his mid/late 60's, it ended yesterday.

Last night, 3 cop cars showed up. Turns out that his "girlfriend" (whom he met at the RED MILE 🤣 🤣) took a dislike to something or other. And then she "took" a ball peen hammer to: his 70 inch flat screen, half the kitchen cabinets, a couple of windows, tiled shower etc.

She was escorted from the premises, and now there is a huge pile of crap, which I'm assuming are her belongings, on his front porch.

No word on how the Christmas tree fared.

 

[ukalum1988]

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I’ve been off this thread for a few days taking a break. Predictably my X feed has been clogged with tributes to Carter.

He served our country honorably in the Navy on a nuclear submarine after graduating from the Naval Academy. I respect him for his service to Habitat for Humanity.

Apart from that, Kurt’s tweet pretty much captures the essence of how I feel about Carter - generally decent for the most part but actually a poor President….. the worst of my lifetime until Biden came along.

 

[Bill Cosby]

The whole "indentured servant" argument is idiotic. Fist off, when did MAGA become an advocate for foreign worker rights? Second, H1Bs can leave their job and go to another one and transfer the H1B to another qualifying job. They are not slaves.

You’re misunderstanding if you think the H1B discussion is about protecting foreign workers. MAGA is Make America Great Again.

If H1Bs can freely transfer visas in such a way that they aren’t barred from changing jobs by law, administrative burden, time or other factors present in the process then I guess we have a different understanding of the practical limitations in place.

 

[Surewhatever]

Ai isn't taking too many programming jobs....yet. Any layoffs are mergers and acquisitions or just the company product flopped.

When i say their product flopping, i mean it never really developed a market. There is so much money in tech, vc firms will literally pump 100s of millions into an idea (you can get a few million funded for basically any functioning idea) to build it out to see if it has a market. That process happens over a few rounds and a few years. If the product flops, the company is done. If its just flat, then personnel are adjusted accordingly.

The best way i can describe tech is its like the gold rush except if the miners all had to be very smart and focused. The money is virtually unlimited but the labor is in short supply. The labor has huge leverage because they are so limited.

People should carefully monitor those on the right pushing this anti work visa nonsense. At best theyre talking about something they don't know. At worst they're trying to wedge off some important people directly responsible for trump winning. If its the latter - we should find out why.

That may be correct in some instances but the industry will lay older employees off who are high earners to replace them with H1Bs. They will also follow DEI to ensure the right people are hired that meet the correct criteria while paying them less since they do not have the skills or experience. They use DEI to adjust the percentages of who they employ to ensure they meet certain criteria even tying SLT bonuses to hiring success.

Most of these companies are still hiring while laying people off. They will jettison high performers instead of moving them to a new product. They used to move high performing employees to a new team but now they lay them off and hire cheaper labor.