POLITICAL THREAD

[sambowieshin]

20k is a made-up number from rightwing media.

Looks like it's 15k since 2020. That's a pretty big influx in a city of 60k. 😬Again, I'm not opposed to immigration at all, but it should be better implemented and coordinated between the state/federal government.
The left needs to slow its roll and recognize the financial strain it imposes on local governments while the right needs to STFU with their BS lies and become part of the solution instead of the problem.

Ohio is sending troopers and $2.5 million to a city that has seen an influx of Haitian migrants

The governor of Ohio will send law enforcement and millions of dollars in healthcare resources to the city of Springfield as it faces a surge in temporary Haitian migrants.

apnews.com

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Twitter fact checked this before the editors at the new yorker... and @Dore95 can't understand why ppl don't accept what the media says

 

[Phil_The_Music]

I’m convinced there is a significant portion of the population who wants to be conquered or enslaved. Probably a high overlap with people who love English royalty.

Yes, I agree. Freedom takes too much responsibility and a good portion of society just doesn't want that, even though they won't admit it. I suppose that's why we had monarchs to begin with.

 

[Mash 2.4]

Yes, they're legal immigrants placed there under immigration programs. Specifically the IPP. You were spouting uninformed crap based on bigotry and are now trying to cover for it with absurdism.

So 20,000 placed into a community of 40-50k? That sounds like a brilliant plan.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

Looks like it's 15k since 2020. That's a pretty big influx in a city of 60k. 😬Again, I'm not opposed to immigration at all, but it should be better implemented and coordinated between the state/federal government.
The left needs to slow its roll and recognize the financial strain it imposes on local governments while the right needs to STFU with their BS lies and become part of the solution instead of the problem.

Ohio is sending troopers and $2.5 million to a city that has seen an influx of Haitian migrants

The governor of Ohio will send law enforcement and millions of dollars in healthcare resources to the city of Springfield as it faces a surge in temporary Haitian migrants.

apnews.com

Solution

This is what separates liberals from conservatives. The liberal believes in a solution.

The conservative realizes there is no solution. There are trade-offs. That for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Liberals believe that their great minds can come up with panaceas to fix every problem. The solution is there though if we just leave those people in their countries where they belong.

This is paraphrasing Thomas Sowell. He nailed that one.

 

[Mash 2.4]

Twitter fact checked this before the editors at the new yorker... and @Dore95 can't understand why ppl don't accept what the media says

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Read this chicks twitter. Almost all of them TDS inspired rants. This person is supposed to be a journalist. Married to a NYT writer. This is what’s wrong with our media.

 

[Mash 2.4]

Looks like it's 15k since 2020. That's a pretty big influx in a city of 60k. 😬Again, I'm not opposed to immigration at all, but it should be better implemented and coordinated between the state/federal government.
The left needs to slow its roll and recognize the financial strain it imposes on local governments while the right needs to STFU with their BS lies and become part of the solution instead of the problem.

Ohio is sending troopers and $2.5 million to a city that has seen an influx of Haitian migrants

The governor of Ohio will send law enforcement and millions of dollars in healthcare resources to the city of Springfield as it faces a surge in temporary Haitian migrants.

apnews.com

There is no solution genius. Unless we go back to Trump policies.

 

[SDC888]

So 20,000 placed into a community of 40-50k? That’s sound like a brilliant plan.

It is when you understand the goal.

 

[SDC888]

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This is true of all Trump's "lies," fact checked true the next day at the bottom of the ledger. Or in the case of the fine people hoax, A FULL FOUR YEARS LATER AFTER IF IT WAS THE CENTRAL THEME IN THE DEMOCRATS' PLATFORM< THE ENTIRE IMPETUS OF THEIR CANDIDATES DECISION TO RUN > CLOSE YOUR EYES AND THINK OF THE TIKI TORCHES!

I have no respect for such people, such antics: zero, zip, zilch, nada.

 

[warrior-cat]

And I see I got no follow up from them, either. They're just going by the law that this (for now) is legal, and is therefore "perfectly fine".. They want to scream Asylum Seekers are perfectly legal, but under no circumstance is the process of "Asylum Seeking" normal.

It's probably my biggest hangup with the left, the limousine liberal. I give a lot of credit to the liberal who practices what they preach, because I have respect for people who stick to their convictions, even if I don't believe in them. But sadly, those almost don't exist.

I have not seen one yet who practices it.

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

This is true of all Trump's "lies," fact checked true the next day at the bottom of the ledger. Or in the case of the fine people hoax, A FULL FOUR YEARS LATER AFTER IF IT WAS THE CENTRAL THEME IN THE DEMOCRATS' PLATFORM< THE ENTIRE IMPETUS OF THEIR CANDIDATES DECISION TO RUN > CLOSE YOUR EYES AND THINK OF THE TIKI TORCHES!

I have no respect for such people, such antics: zero, zip, zilch, nada.

Agree. How was last night not election interference by the moderators? It never stops.

 

[SDC888]

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

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Economy and Borders. She’s not gonna win fair and square but they don’t play fair soooo….

 

[bcw1029]

Kamala did what she was supposed to do, and that was “perform” without any major verbal mistakes. She was however, NOT persuasive, and evaded and did not questions. Trump missed a golden opportunity to attack her on covering up Biden’s decline and mental acuity.

Muir is a little beta Democrat plant within
state-run media, also friends with Harris. Can guarandamn-tee you independents and undecideds were not happy on the 3 vs 1 format. All in all, will have very little impact on the polls or the betting markets.

How in God’s name could you be undecided at this point? Do you live under a GD rock? LOL

 

[trueblujr2]

Midwest Transport abruptly ceases operations; drivers told via phone calls

ROBINSON, Ill. — Midwest Transport Inc. (MTI), an Illinois-based trucking and logistics company, which contracted with the United State Postal Service

www.thetrucker.com

Setting up the fail.

 

[sambowieshin]

There is no solution genius. Unless we go back to Trump policies.

Trump's policies were a useless pile of sh**. For the millionth time.... EOs ARE NOT PERMANENT LAW.
EOs do NOTHING to stop ASYLUM claims.
EOs are no better than toilet paper the second that President leaves office.
We need codified laws passed by Congress that address ASYLUM and the border that are PERMANENT law.

 

[sambowieshin]

Solution

This is what separates liberals from conservatives. The liberal believes in a solution.

The conservative realizes there is no solution. There are trade-offs. That for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Liberals believe that their great minds can come up with panaceas to fix every problem. The solution is there though if we just leave those people in their countries where they belong.

This is paraphrasing Thomas Sowell. He nailed that one.

ASYLUM Law can be fixed.
More border agents can be hired.
More immigration judges can be hired.
More wall can be built in effective places.
More drones can be used.
Better placement of immigrants can be done and better job matching.
Just like guns in schools.... You all would rather bitch like an old lady than do anything about a problem.

 

[JumperJack]

Can anybody make an argument why this country needs millions of low skilled people when our manufacturing base is shrinking and most occupations are becoming more automated? This isn’t 1900.

Freeze and suspend all immigration except for high skilled people. There’s no logical argument to continue it.

 

[trueblujr2]

They aren't illegal you idiot. How would tens of thousands of illegal Haitians end up in Springfield, OH?

Same way as 10’s of thousands end up in NYC? Illegal or not. The citizens of that city did not vote to have their city essentially be overtaken by them. They increased the population by more than 30%. Small towns don’t have the resources to absorb that.

 

[screwduke1]

I moved here in 2008. Notice a trend?

You would think after living there in Florida for 16 years you wouldn't still be lost.

 

[SDC888]

Can anybody make an argument why this country needs millions of low skilled people when our manufacturing base is shrinking and most occupations are become more automated? This isn’t 1900.

Freeze and suspend all immigration except for high skilled people. There’s no logical argument to continue it.

Dion will tell you, literally, "we have plenty of space!"

The fundamental problem with the left today is the complete absences of higher order critical thinking. Once they've deemed something desirable, no amount of reasoning or evidence can dissuade them.

 

[sambowieshin]

Can anybody make an argument why this country needs millions of low skilled people when our manufacturing base is shrinking and most occupations are become more automated? This isn’t 1900.

Freeze and suspend all immigration except for high skilled people. There’s no logical argument to continue it.

Actually there is. We need more immigration, not less.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/health/us-birth-rate-decline-2023-cdc/index.html

U.S. population growth has nearly flatlined, new census data shows

America’s population size is standing still, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Population growth over the 12-month period from July 1, 2020 through July 1, 2021 stood at unprecedented low of just 0.12%.

www.brookings.edu

 

[SDC888]

Can anybody make an argument why this country needs millions of low skilled people when our manufacturing base is shrinking and most occupations are become more automated? This isn’t 1900.

Freeze and suspend all immigration except for high skilled people. There’s no logical argument to continue it.

Immigrants have to assimilate, fully accept our values and culture. These people won't, atleast not anytime soon, which is why the left is so eager to have them: exploit them in the name of "democracy."

 

[Cold Stout Beer]

Glad people are seeing that Dems are nothing but BS artists.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

ASYLUM Law can be fixed.
More border agents can be hired.
More immigration judges can be hired.
More wall can be built in effective places.
More drones can be used.
Better placement of immigrants can be done and better job matching.
Just like guns in schools.... You all would rather bitch like an old lady than do anything about a problem.

You create a problem where there is none then come up with a solution. That's just brilliant.

 

[Nightwish84]

Muir is a little beta Democrat plant within
state-run media, also friends with Harris. Can guarandamn-tee you independents and undecideds were not happy on the 3 vs 1 format.

God bless, please all of you (you included), stop bitching about moderators in every single debate. If Trump is seen as the loser of the debate, that's on him and his team. I've never seen such a "big, strong man" like Trump and his "manly" supporters whine so much. That's how I knew the debate was going well for Harris last night. This thread was about three pages deep bitching about the moderators and ABC.

Spoiler: no one outside of MAGA world sees Trump as a constant victim. Either he wins the debate or he loses it. He lost it. Blame his lack of prep or maybe him telling the world migrants are eating pets.

 

[Girthang]

You create a problem where there is none then come up with a solution. That's just brilliant.

That's democrat politics in a nutshell

 

[SDC888]

Actually there is. We need more immigration, not less.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/health/us-birth-rate-decline-2023-cdc/index.html

U.S. population growth has nearly flatlined, new census data shows

America’s population size is standing still, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Population growth over the 12-month period from July 1, 2020 through July 1, 2021 stood at unprecedented low of just 0.12%.

www.brookings.edu

Can fix that problem in a myriad of other ways. So actually, there is not.

But those ways are much less useful to their one-party state goals.

 

[*CatinIL*]

You create a problem where there is none then come up with a solution. That's just brilliant.

Yep, Democratic policy 101.

 

[TheFrontRunner]

 

[Girthang]

And I see I got no follow up from them, either. They're just going by the law that this (for now) is legal, and is therefore "perfectly fine".. They want to scream Asylum Seekers are perfectly legal, but under no circumstance is the process of "Asylum Seeking" normal.

It's probably my biggest hangup with the left, the limousine liberal. I give a lot of credit to the liberal who practices what they preach, because I have respect for people who stick to their convictions, even if I don't believe in them. But sadly, those almost don't exist.

Thems unicorns

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

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Illegal migrants think the Springfield Humane Society is an all-you-can-eat buffet.

 

[Mash 2.4]

Actually there is. We need more immigration, not less.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/health/us-birth-rate-decline-2023-cdc/index.html

U.S. population growth has nearly flatlined, new census data shows

America’s population size is standing still, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Population growth over the 12-month period from July 1, 2020 through July 1, 2021 stood at unprecedented low of just 0.12%.

www.brookings.edu

Then don’t vote for a ticket running on a platform of full term abortion access.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

Watch out Cincinnati Zoo.

And I bet they’d try to eat Ken Griffey Jr too

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Actually there is. We need more immigration, not less.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/health/us-birth-rate-decline-2023-cdc/index.html

U.S. population growth has nearly flatlined, new census data shows

America’s population size is standing still, according to new data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Population growth over the 12-month period from July 1, 2020 through July 1, 2021 stood at unprecedented low of just 0.12%.

www.brookings.edu

As a new parent, I'd argue that we need to incentivize having children a little more in this country. It's just too expensive and childcare is too demanding today, compared to what it was for a lot of us growing up (imo). Too many in their 20s and 30s don't have the money and/or the desire to have children.

So yes there *could* be some advantages to some liberal policies that emphasize greater parental leave or higher child care tax credits. BUT, we're also sitting on high inflation that hurts the spending abilities of new parents, and that's not democrats strong suite.

I'd rather see America figure out how to entice CURRENT Americans to have more children.. instead of just taking in every countries poorest, weakest and desperate to fill the gaps.

 

[bcw1029]

God bless, please all of you (you included), stop bitching about moderators in every single debate. If Trump is seen as the loser of the debate, that's on him and his team. I've never seen such a "big, strong man" like Trump and his "manly" supporters whine so much. That's how I knew the debate was going well for Harris last night. This thread was about three pages deep bitching about the moderators and ABC.

Spoiler: no one outside of MAGA world sees Trump as a constant victim. Either he wins the debate or he loses it. He lost it. Blame his lack of prep or maybe him telling the world migrants are eating pets.

It was journalistic malpractice, and most people that display any critical thinking skills and aren’t lemmings/robots for the DNC and consider state-run ABC “real news”, understand that. I never called him a victim. Hell, I don’t think anyone else here did either. Trump is a bad debater, but that doesn’t excuse how this misfit of state-run propagandists behaved. How are you incapable of understanding this?

 

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[WayneDougan]

How in God’s name could you be undecided at this point? Do you live under a GD rock? LOL

I think it’s more a function of how excited are you gonna be to go vote. Trump - if his people really want him to win - need to do the biggest ground game ever in Pennsylvania, NC and Georgia.