POLITICAL THREAD

[Bill Cosby]

What is being talked about is the evidence attached to the MSJ - the text messages and emails from the Fox news hosts. That's much different than taking the arguments in the motion as fact.

Have you seen all the evidence, or just the portions the plaintiff wants you to see because it supports their motion?

Edit: In other words, no it’s not different. It’s a carefully crafted narrative only presenting evidence in such a way that supports one side.

 

[Bill Derington]

Your evidence of a "absentee ballot free for all" is another accusation. Accusations aren't evidence of anything.

Republicans eased absentee ballot restrictions also. COVID.

You need evidence and what you've got are accusations.

Rudy Giuiani went in front of a court and admitted that his case wasn't fraud. In no court -- and Trump's team went there 60 times -- was there ever evidence of fraud submitted.

Because that case Giuliani was arguing, after the original lawyers quit quite literally at the 11th hour wasn't on voter fraud, it was equal protection clause. Trumps "team", which didn't contain Sidney Powell, never was allowed to present evidence. It's easy to admit something never happened if evidence is never allowed by judges.

Easing, and Democrat lawyers going full bore to remove protections are not the same thing. There was an absentee ballot free for all in the States required to win, that isn't an accusation, it was the case in 2020.

It was a stolen election, that only happens if both Reps and Dems are in on it. The "establishment" wanted Trump gone, he was a threat. So pat yourself on the back for supporting the establishment, you supported them leading us straight into WWIII.

 

[Bill Derington]

What is being talked about is the evidence attached to the MSJ - the text messages and emails from the Fox news hosts. That's much different than taking the arguments in the motion as fact.

I wonder why the MSM didn't present the evidence presented in the testimonies in several States in the 2020 election hearings. There were thousands of testimonials, yet the only one they aired was the crazy lady in Michigan.
They told us before the election that voting machines weren't connected to the internet, yet they were, why would they lie about that?

 

[dbmhoosier]

haha

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That clown couldn't even fix the potholes in Northern Indiana.

 

[Bill Derington]

At some point you ought to [and I hope you do] realize that 1 million accusations aren't evidence of anything.

That was the Sheriff of that County reporting obvious fraud in voter registrations. Everyone of those would've received an absentee ballot.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Have you seen all the evidence, or just the portions the plaintiff wants you to see because it supports their motion?

Edit: In other words, no it’s not different. It’s a carefully crafted narrative only presenting evidence in such a way that supports one side.

Apparently if dore was a judge he/she would just grant every summary judgment motion that came across.

 

[DreadLox]

Because that case Giuliani was arguing, after the original lawyers quit quite literally at the 11th hour wasn't on voter fraud, it was equal protection clause. Trumps "team", which didn't contain Sidney Powell, never was allowed to present evidence. It's easy to admit something never happened if evidence is never allowed by judges.

Easing, and Democrat lawyers going full bore to remove protections are not the same thing. There was an absentee ballot free for all in the States required to win, that isn't an accusation, it was the case in 2020.

It was a stolen election, that only happens if both Reps and Dems are in on it. The "establishment" wanted Trump gone, he was a threat. So pat yourself on the back for supporting the establishment, you supported them leading us straight into WWIII.

If accusations were evidence, jails would cover the country.

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

Why does race matter at all? First of all you picked out Canada and then didn’t mention it at all. It’s around ten percent more white than we are. Not really a sizable difference. As for Europe it’s a mixed bag where ethnicity means as much as skin color. Serbians and Albanians, for instance, have beef and are both white. Or Irish and English. Just different cultural dynamics at play. It’s still diverse and somewhat compassionate. Germany has been taking in refugees from the Middle East for decades. Thanks in no small part to our wars of destabilization. The only reason race would matter enough to bring it up in this context is if you attribute all of those countries’ success to their racial makeup. Which is, as @Bridgeman Owns TruBlu acknowledged, insanely racist.

1) Race matters 1000% in the context of answering the question at hand: Which country is better than the USA at providing the most opportunities for people of all races, creeds, etc...?

Not sure how you can answer that question without considering race.

2) I didn’t pick Canada. I was trying to confirm that was the country you picked...thus the “?” after the word “Canada”.

3) Point taken on ethnicity. Still maintain that the USA offers the best opportunities for people of any race, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc...(in my mind the “etc...” covered ethnicity but for your benefit it’s now included before the “etc...”) so...

Is Germany your answer?

4) I’m not trying to play a game of “gotcha” here. I’m merely trying to point out that the USA isn’t the monstrous bastion of systemic racism that you make it out to be on a regular basis. Instead of dancing around you could simply concede that point and admit that perhaps it’s not.

5) Nowhere in any of my posts have I attributed the success of any country to its racial makeup with one exception...I have always maintained throughout that the USA is the best country on the planet & I believe that it’s racial makeup & diversity of ethnicities has contributed to that success. I further have maintained throughout that no country on the planet offers more opportunities for all of its people, regardless of their race, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc..., , than the USA. Furthermore, no other country provides a better opportunity for someone to come from nothing and become successful.

The USA is still the undisputed champ. Nothing you have posted to date changes that fact. It’s got its problems & there’s plenty of room for improvement...but it’s not the evil, systemic racist country that you make it out to be. It’s just not. Calling people who disagree with you a racist in every other post doesn’t change that fact.

 

[Bill Derington]

If accusations were evidence, jails would cover the country.

If absentee voting goes full retard, an 80 year old invalid can get "elected".

 

[Lost In FL]

Did a single court rule based on factual evidence presented at trial, or were they all throw out on administrative grounds?

Kind of like Kari Lake lost in Arizona because she couldn’t prove the errors were the result of intentional fraud rather than just the complete incompetence of the SOS.

Who was the AZ SOS? Yet ZERO conflict of interest...

 

[mdlUK.1]

If absentee voting goes full retard, an 80 year old invalid can get "elected".

 

[VaxxedObamaCat]

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Stuff like this makes it amusing when lefties try to act like they're centrists and that their ideology hasn't went so far off the rails.

They are insane and think everyone who didn't join them in the jump to the land of insanity is a "Nazi" "extremist" "far right." LOL

 

[WTF Cat]

Enes Kanter getting ready to appear on Varney's Fox Business show shortly... should be good.

Hope he drills LeQueen as well as other libs...

 

[VaxxedObamaCat]

Because it is very likely the reason. Diversity, Balkanization, is a weakness. Please name one racially diverse country with multiple ethnic groups, languages etc... that makes your list. The Chinese communists are vert soon going to pass us because they have seeded folks like you with disinformation. Breeding self loathing which drips from everything you post. Until we decide that being a melting pot made us great and diversity weakens (Balkaizes). Then we are doomed to fail. Maybe that is what you want. I will do my best to see you fail.

PREACH!

Only one group is told to not be homogenous or have self-interest. We have absolute idiots celebrating being the minority, wanting to be discriminated against in hirings and college admissions, and watching their ancestor's land and civilization be pillaged by the third world and Marxists.

Evil has spent decades upon decades, infiltrating every institution and importing enough people into this country to outnumber the host population. In 40 years, we have went from a red California where America voted 49-1 states in favor of Reagan to now this bizarre gay Soviet Union-ish freak show where we amplify insanity and demonize normalcy.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

O.m.g. this is amazing

 

[screwduke1]

Good to see liberals finally believe things from Fox News hosts. After years of saying all they do is lie and trying to remove them from the airwaves...but yeah they were truth tellers in those text messages though! Lol effing clowns.

 

[yes_takeaside]

The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and plenteous in mercy.

Psalms 103:8

 

[WTF Cat]

Jimmy Carter, the last quality human being the democrat party has left

Eh... he's an anti-Semite... been a cheerleader for Hamas for a long time.

 

[yes_takeaside]

Did a single court rule based on factual evidence presented at trial, or were they all throw out on administrative grounds?

Kind of like Kari Lake lost in Arizona because she couldn’t prove the errors were the result of intentional fraud rather than just the complete incompetence of the SOS.

The court erred. The law does not require intent.

 

[ukalum1988]

So a CATHOLIC university wants to drop religion classes? Makes sense....NOT.

But, of course, this is their prez.......

'Among Becerra’s initiatives since becoming the school’s president in 2018 were advocating for Dreamer students - illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as dependents - including launching a scholarship fund back in 2020 that received praise from Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine.

She also penned an op-ed for Forbes last year calling for "cognitive diversity" - which is defined as the inclusion of people who think and solve problems differently than others - to be included amid discussion on diversity, equity and inclusion in workplaces.'

Catholic university ready to ax core majors like theology, English to fund more popular programs

Catholic college Marymount University in northern Virginia is expected to get rid of 10 liberal arts majors and programs, including theology and English, sparking outcry.

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It's so sad to see Catholic universities voluntarily expunge their Christian identity in order to conform to the norms of the secular world.

 

[VaxxedObamaCat]

Here's a nice thought experiment for you Dion. (Since I'm so racist, and all, according to your racist ass)

Swap the 10 million Danes in denmark with the 10 million Somalis in Somalia.

Complete displacement of both populations, infrastructure, etc all stays. All wealth. Let's check back in 10 years and see how many new museums are in Somalia, and how many goats are walking downtown Copenhagen.

And right now, given the choice, gun at your head, you.picking Denmark, or Somalia?

Answer that direct question. Directly. No dodging, dipping, bobbing and weaving. Be a man and answer that question.

I made the same point. These countries aren't magic. The people is what makes it. Culture and demographics matter. If they didn't, why is it the same ones that are utter shit over and over again? Why do the same ones succeed in academics where as the same ones are always at the bottom?

Liberia was a great example. I can't believe it wasn't turned into Wakanda.

 

[BlueRunner11]

Stuff like this makes it amusing when lefties try to act like they're centrists and that their ideology hasn't went so far off the rails.

They are insane and think everyone who didn't join them in the jump to the land of insanity is a "Nazi" "extremist" "far right." LOL

Todays left operates as the Eye of Sauron. Gotta get rid of Tolkien before us dumb dwarfs and hobbits get any ideas.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Isn't it amazing how that democrats like Dion are always holding Sweden up as the country that America should be more like. Sweden a country with less than 1% of it's population being black. Democrats once a racist party always a racist party.

The Sweden that has been working back to more free market strategies over the recent years.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

I made the same point. These countries aren't magic. The people is what makes it. Culture and demographics matter. If they didn't, why is it the same ones that are utter shit over and over again? Why do the same ones succeed in academics where as the same ones are always at the bottom?

Liberia was a great example. I can't believe it wasn't turned into Wakanda.

I have a friend who is a Nigerian Muslim. One of the most wonderful people I know. Speaks 5 languages and is very well educated... as are many AAs. (actual Africans). I can say that he and many others are not big fans of their American brethren. WE (American Leftists) whether by accident or design have nuked the American version by looking down their noses at the American version. Dsus and his ilk drip over their white guilt but for the wrong reason.

 

[DreadLox]

If absentee voting goes full retard, an 80 year old invalid can get "elected".

Lots of people vote absentee. Service people. Donald Trump. People who on business trips. People too ill to go to the polls.

Voter fraud is a one-person-at-a-time crime. Do you have evidence that Mr X cast a ballot that he wasn't eligible for? And people have been prosecuted for it. It's a tough crime to prove. You can't do it with insinuations. I believe for 2020 there have been a dozen or so prosecutions. Oddly, iirc, most have been Republicans.

Butt Hurt is a valuable commodity. And it gets cultivated. Talking heads nurture it. And it has an amazing shelf life. Shakespeare wrote one of his best plays about it -- it has his greatest villain. Iago. Iago hated Othello because Othello passed Iago over on a promotion. (I think lack of a promotion is why Michael Flynn has become such a chit.) There is a sizeable chunk of the American media which seem to do little else that cultivate Butt Hurt.

It's tough to calibrate though. Had the GOP been a little less nutty about it, they'd have 3 more Senators. At least. (2 in Georgia. 1 in Arizona) But they went a mite overboard on it. And they lost not because of absentee ballots. They lost because foaming at the mouth is a bad look.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Lol Biden didn't even bother to invite the Georgia bulldogs to the white house...he's all salty "leader" Abrams isn't governor

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

It so sad to see Catholic universities voluntarily expunge their Christian identity in order to conform to the norms of the secular world.

It’s not just Catholic universities. Plenty of colleges & universities that were founded on Protestant Christian beliefs have done the same...or are headed that way.

As with most things secular...it’s usually not a death blow to the jugular but instead a slippery slope of tiny cuts to the Achilles that gradually lead to the capitulation.

 

[CastleRubric]

At some point you ought to [and I hope you do] realize that 1 million accusations aren't evidence of anything.

Essentially true in and of itself

Just like the millions of repetitive accusations of racism that are tossed around daily

There has to be merit & some kind of applicability to the #s

The qualitative part of the story - right?


As for voting - I like to think regular US citizens can agree on this --

Migrating to electronic voting machines & information systems was a serious blunder


Great example of how a low-tech solution is sometimes better

 

[Sawnee Cat]

Eh... he's an anti-Semite... been a cheerleader for Hamas for a long time.

^^^^^^
Truth, Thank you. Isn't it funny how when a man is approaching his final hours the world wants to make him a godlike figure. There was a reason he lost in a landslide when he ran against Reagan. He was not. I repeat was not a good president. He may not have been as weak as Biden is but it was close.

 

[Bill Derington]

Lots of people vote absentee. Service people. Donald Trump. People who on business trips. People too ill to go to the polls.

Voter fraud is a one-person-at-a-time crime. Do you have evidence that Mr X cast a ballot that he wasn't eligible for? And people have been prosecuted for it. It's a tough crime to prove. You can't do it with insinuations. I believe for 2020 there have been a dozen or so prosecutions. Oddly, iirc, most have been Republicans.

Butt Hurt is a valuable commodity. And it gets cultivated. Talking heads nurture it. And it has an amazing shelf life. Shakespeare wrote one of his best plays about it -- it has his greatest villain. Iago. Iago hated Othello because Othello passed Iago over on a promotion. (I think lack of a promotion is why Michael Flynn has become such a chit.) There is a sizeable chunk of the American media which seem to do little else that cultivate Butt Hurt.

It's tough to calibrate though. Had the GOP been a little less nutty about it, they'd have 3 more Senators. At least. (2 in Georgia. 1 in Arizona) But they went a mite overboard on it. And they lost not because of absentee ballots. They lost because foaming at the mouth is a bad look.

Its not tough to prevent though, don't allow absentee ballot free for alls and drop boxes with no chain of custody, or allow ballot harvesting, and weeks after the election to get them in as California does.

You fail to realize that people actually saw what happened in 2020, people don't need "talking heads" to tell them what they witnessed. Why the hell do you think Marc Elias got involved, and Zuck dropped 500 million? It takes alot of money to buy people off, and he had it.

Why do you think Bill Barr received a 5 million dollar book deal, and lied about looking into the voter fraud allegations?

Joe Biden is a puppet, and whomever is in charge is pushing the US off the cliff.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[DreadLox]

Its not tough to prevent though, don't allow absentee ballot free for alls and drop boxes with no chain of custody, or allow ballot harvesting, and weeks after the election to get them in as California does.

You fail to realize that people actually saw what happened in 2020, people don't need "talking heads" to tell them what they witnessed. Why the hell do you think Marc Elias got involved, and Zuck dropped 500 million? It takes alot of money to buy people off, and he had it.

Why do you think Bill Barr received a 5 million dollar book deal, and lied about looking into the voter fraud allegations?

Joe Biden is a puppet, and whomever is in charge is pushing the US off the cliff.

We've heard what witnesses saw. They didn't see voter fraud.

 

[DreadLox]

Stuff like this makes it amusing when lefties try to act like they're centrists and that their ideology hasn't went so far off the rails.

They are insane and think everyone who didn't join them in the jump to the land of insanity is a "Nazi" "extremist" "far right." LOL

Marjorie Taylor Greene wants secession. So, yeah, Democrats are the extremists.

 

[Bill Cosby]

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If you took picked five moderately intelligent people from the US, Ukraine and Russia, put them in a room and asked them to end this war in a way they think serves the best interest of the people of their respective countries, it could probably be done in five minutes with no one else dying.

Instead we have the “elites” pushing us to the brink of nuclear war to continue earning their corrupt profits.

 

[Dionysus444]

1) Race matters 1000% in the context of answering the question at hand: Which country is better than the USA at providing the most opportunities for people of all races, creeds, etc...?

Not sure how you can answer that question without considering race.

2) I didn’t pick Canada. I was trying to confirm that was the country you picked...thus the “?” after the word “Canada”.

3) Point taken on ethnicity. Still maintain that the USA offers the best opportunities for people of any race, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc...(in my mind the “etc...” covered ethnicity but for your benefit it’s now included before the “etc...”) so...

Is Germany your answer?

4) I’m not trying to play a game of “gotcha” here. I’m merely trying to point out that the USA isn’t the monstrous bastion of systemic racism that you make it out to be on a regular basis. Instead of dancing around you could simply concede that point and admit that perhaps it’s not.

5) Nowhere in any of my posts have I attributed the success of any country to its racial makeup with one exception...I have always maintained throughout that the USA is the best country on the planet & I believe that it’s racial makeup & diversity of ethnicities has contributed to that success. I further have maintained throughout that no country on the planet offers more opportunities for all of its people, regardless of their race, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, etc..., , than the USA. Furthermore, no other country provides a better opportunity for someone to come from nothing and become successful.

The USA is still the undisputed champ. Nothing you have posted to date changes that fact. It’s got its problems & there’s plenty of room for improvement...but it’s not the evil, systemic racist country that you make it out to be. It’s just not. Calling people who disagree with you a racist in every other post doesn’t change that fact.

Your opinion is that the US is the best. You offer no data or support, just your opinion. You’re welcome to it. And I’m welcome to think you’re wrong.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Marjorie Taylor Greene wants secession. So, yeah, Democrats are the extremists.

Why not split amicably? The “left” hates the “right”. The “right” hates the “left”. The differences are irreconcilable at this point.

 

[JumperJack]

Your opinion is that the US is the best. You offer no data or support, just your opinion. You’re welcome to it. And I’m welcome to think you’re wrong.

My oh my. Now we have to turn it into data. I would think the 200 years of steady immigration would be enough for anybody with eyes.

 

[Dionysus444]

If you took picked five moderately intelligent people from the US, Ukraine and Russia, put them in a room and asked them to end this war in a way they think serves the best interest of the people of their respective countries, it could probably be done in five minutes with no one else dying.

Instead we have the “elites” pushing us to the brink of nuclear war to continue earning their corrupt profits.

Does Putin get Kherson Oblast and his land route to Crimea? Would probably be a sticking point we couldn’t get over. That’s most of the reason for the war and they don’t want to be Russian. Rather large impasse. Lay out the details of this common sense deal for us if it’s so obvious.

 

[DreadLox]

Good to see liberals finally believe things from Fox News hosts. After years of saying all they do is lie and trying to remove them from the airwaves...but yeah they were truth tellers in those text messages though! Lol effing clowns.

There's a difference between what goes on 1 to 1 and what goes on over the air. If it's any comfort to you, Fox is pretending none of the revelations mean anything.

 

[DrH. Lecter]

Your opinion is that the US is the best. You offer no data or support, just your opinion. You’re welcome to it. And I’m welcome to think you’re wrong.

Seriously? You obviously hate those of us who do not share your contempt. Why not put your money (assumimg you have any) where your mouth is. Renounce your citizenship and leave. Why remain here and be so clearly miserable?