POLITICAL THREAD

[DrH. Lecter]

I have to agree with Dion on this one. Even states that are fully controlled by one party have millions of people who voted the other way living in them. You'd have to physically relocate at least half the population to make it remotely feasible. And it would have to be forced relocation because most people aren't interested in just leaving behind their hometowns, jobs, friends plus anything else they've worked to build. Sounds to me like massive government overreach.

Maybe. But as we see California, SF etc... woken themselves in to a dystopian shole, only the true believers will remain. The rest of us will become redder. The "migrants" much like Italians will assimilate and become just another white group. Asians are now becoming considered white-adjacent because the left cannot explain why they are the most successful immigrants who do not seek or need their handouts. The groups who do well have the strong family structure. A dad and mother in the home. THAT fact alone is the leading indicator of what group will continue to fail. Destroy their family structure and you will continue to guarantee their failure. The left pefected that strategy.

 

[DreadLox]

Pro American left and right need to come together against anti-American forces in both parties.

Lots of older Republicans seem to have been startled awake by the pro-Putin Republicans. The Citizens United decision guaranteed the influx of anti-American money from abroad. And lots of dicey politicians have taken it. As long as American politicians legally can take money from abroad it's going to threaten our existence.

 

[SDC888]

You consider yourself an enlightened centrist who’s been forced to vote R because of the betrayal of foundational American principles by the Marxist left. I know what you are and how you think.

No, you don't know who I am nor how I think. You're not capable of that.

 

[Dionysus444]

Realistically at this point I think either escalation stops but we continue funding a worthless war until at least the turnover in the Biden regime then we continue funding a rebuild until the US politicians who were involved in the corrupt Ukraine dealings are far enough in the rear view, or continued escalation resulting in nuclear war and there’s nothing to rebuild.

At this point the war is too profitable for those currently in power to willingly stop it. But if the Biden administration keeps committing acts of terror, Russia is going to respond in kind (if they aren’t already).

You never said what happens to Ukraine. Who gets Ukraine?

 

[Catman100]

Only thing I will add to the current discussion about other countries being better than the USA, is that it's one thing to vacation visit another country, it's totally something else to live under the rules, regulations and laws of that same country.

I would bet most lefties, including the ones in here, have never LIVED in another country.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

 

[AustinTXCat]

Looks like Bidens MAGA policies are popular.

Biden hits 59 percent approval rating in Pew poll

A majority of Americans — 59 percent — approve of President Biden’s handling of his job as he approaches 100 days in office, according to a Pew Research Center poll released Friday.…

thehill.com

 

[SDC888]

Only thing I will add to the current discussion about other countries being better than the USA, is that it's one thing to vacation visit another country, it's totally something else to live under the rules, regulations and laws of that same country.

I would bet most lefties, including the ones in here, have never LIVED in another country.

Exactly.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the street.

 

[Bill Cosby]

You never said what happens to Ukraine. Who gets Ukraine?

I told you what happens to Ukraine. It gets destroyed and we pay even more money to contractors owned by friends of US politicians to rebuild it until we ultimately abandon it as worthless. Then it’s probably either Russia or a group of Ukrainians who spent their lives developing a hatred of America for using them as a pawn in their proxy war.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I live and work surrounded by Republicans every day. I’ve lived and grown up in three of the five Trumpiest states in the union. I understand y’all’s thought processes better than you do. I’ve devoted my life to it.

So where do you live that has all of these Republicans? It must be a mighty fine place with low crime, schools that teach and do not indoctrinate and citizens with a solid work ethic.

I bet your taxes are low and your neighborhood clean. It is the Republican way. You are fortunate.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I have to agree with Dion on this one. Even states that are fully controlled by one party have millions of people who voted the other way living in them. You'd have to physically relocate at least half the population to make it remotely feasible. And it would have to be forced relocation because most people aren't interested in just leaving behind their hometowns, jobs, friends plus anything else they've worked to build. Sounds to me like massive government overreach.

The separation wouldn’t have to be by state lines.

And most blue cities are really only blue because of the federal government and democrats working so hard to keep minorities poor and dependent on the federal government.

 

[Dionysus444]

I told you what happens to Ukraine. It gets destroyed and we pay even more money to contractors owned by friends of US politicians to rebuild it until we ultimately abandon it as worthless. Then it’s probably either Russia or a group of Ukrainians who spent their lives developing a hatred of America for using them as a pawn in their proxy war.

If Russia takes Ukraine like you’re saying we won’t be sending them money to rebuild it. It’ll be Russian. A rebuild with Western money only happens if they win and liberate the flattened southern cities, which you’re saying Ukraine can’t do.

 

[DreadLox]

Exactly.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the street.

There's an invaluable publication -- The CIA Factbook -- that offers accurate pictures of other countries. Lots of categories. Combine that with the internet's superabundance of photographs you can see the world very easily.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

We took a trip to the Baltic around 10 years ago. My favorite was "boring" old Denmark. Copenhagen is the loveliest city I've ever seen. Particularly for a big city. I'd tell the Danes the same as a guy once told me, "Keep doing what you're doing".

One of the cities we visited was Rostok. It's in (Eastern) Germany and had, at that point, only been out from under Communism for 20 years. It's a mid-sized town. About the size of Lexington. A university town, too. It was fantastic. They had really shaken off the dullness that Communism is famous for. I liked Helsinki, too, but not a single word on any signs looked like what I remember words looking like. Finnish is a really weird language.

We got to Stockholm relatively late in the day and we didn't get to see much of that famously wealthy city. But I've since taken to using Google Earth to explore it. You can plop that little yellow map homunculus down at any point that has a blue street highlight to see what street level looks like. I've never seen a nasty looking area of Stockholm.

Google Earth is the next best thing to a vacation if you ask me. I recommend it over travel guides for all of your What Does the Outside World Look Like needs.

If the US were suddenly rendered unlivable, I'd definitely try out Denmark over any other country we've ever gone to. (Most of Western Europe.)

As for the question of how we did it: we're both retired. We took our trip on my wife's retirement bonus.

Oh. Your one of the old has-beens a that ageist Dion rails against.

 

[Dionysus444]

The separation wouldn’t have to be by state lines.

And most blue cities are really only blue because of the federal government and democrats working so hard to keep minorities poor and dependent on the federal government.

You’re saying Louisville would want to join y’all’s Confederacy?

 

[ohiocatfan826]

I would much rather live in any of the countries I listed. But what I would rather do than that is improve the world’s superpower which will have knock-on effects around the globe for the betterment of all humanity. Your nationalistic worldview is so small. Borders are just imaginary lines on a map. We’re all on this chunk of rock hurtling through the void alone together.

That is an incredibly stupid comment. Without borders there is no property at all. Personal, city, state, country etc. So in your perfect world no one has anything and the whole world is just one big country led by who? Which tiny group gets to rule the entire world?

 

[Catman100]

There's an invaluable publication -- The CIA Factbook -- that offers accurate pictures of other countries. Lots of categories. Combine that with the internet's superabundance of photographs you can see the world very easily.

Tell me you have never lived in another country without telling me you have never lived in another country.

 

[Bill Cosby]

If Russia takes Ukraine like you’re saying we won’t be sending them money to rebuild it. It’ll be Russian. A rebuild with Western money only happens if they win and liberate the flattened southern cities, which you’re saying Ukraine can’t do.

Pretty sure we sent plenty of money to “reconstruct” Afghanistan before handing it over to the Taliban.

 

[Dionysus444]

So where do you live that has all of these Republicans? It must be a mighty fine place with low crime, schools that teach and do not indoctrinate and citizens with a solid work ethic.

I bet your taxes are low and your neighborhood clean. It is the Republican way. You are fortunate.

Their solid work ethic hasn’t gotten them very far. Eastern Kentucky has six of the bottom twenty lowest median household income counties in the entire country. Almost like work ethic isn’t the sole defining characteristic of success huh?

 

[DreadLox]

Tell me you have never lived in another country without telling me you have never lived in another country.

Next up: Knock, Knock Jokes, Color Me jokes, and Tom Swifties.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

This military separation dream is your last gasp to defend your fading way of life. Just like the South in the 1850s. And just like then it will fail and you’ll be dragged kicking and screaming into a better future for us all.

Dion wants to drag people kicking and screaming.

 

[Dionysus444]

That is an incredibly stupid comment. Without borders there is no property at all. Personal, city, state, country etc. So in your perfect world no one has anything and the whole world is just one big country led by who? Which tiny group gets to rule the entire world?

The people.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I’ve devoted my life to it.

First, that is the saddest and funniest admission we have seen here in a long time.

But, if you understand Republicans better than they know themselves, why do you get caught in so many lies and make so many wrong statements? Can’t you just dominate with the truth?

 

[Catman100]

The people.

FOH !!!!
LMAO

 

[Bridgeman Owns TruBlu]

The separation wouldn’t have to be by state lines.

And most blue cities are really only blue because of the federal government and democrats working so hard to keep minorities poor and dependent on the federal government.

I live in Madison County and in 2020 the GE went about 65/35 for Trump. What do you tell the 35% who voted democrat? Sorry bro, you gotta pack up your family and move to a city?

 

[Dionysus444]

Pretty sure we sent plenty of money to “reconstruct” Afghanistan before handing it over to the Taliban.

After we destroyed it. You think there will be political will to send Russia billions to rebuild Ukraine after they’ve destroyed it taking it? That’s insanity, we’re literally sanctioning them right now. We won’t about-face if they win.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Only thing I will add to the current discussion about other countries being better than the USA, is that it's one thing to vacation visit another country, it's totally something else to live under the rules, regulations and laws of that same country.

I would bet most lefties, including the ones in here, have never LIVED in another country.

Yeah, a bus tour does not count. 😂

 

[Caveman Catfan]

Exactly.

The grass is always greener on the other side of the street.

Irma Bombeck said, “the grass is always greener over the septic tank.”

 

[WTF Cat]

Only thing I will add to the current discussion about other countries being better than the USA, is that it's one thing to vacation visit another country, it's totally something else to live under the rules, regulations and laws of that same country.

I would bet most lefties, including the ones in here, have never LIVED in another country.

Another issue that's ignored by the Left: racism.

Want to see some REAL racism? Go to Europe... or non China Asia. Those folks HATE anyone other than their own.

 

[Bill Cosby]

I live in Madison County and in 2020 the GE went about 65/35 for Trump. What do you tell the 35% who voted democrat? Sorry bro, you gotta pack up your family and move to a city?

I’d probably say we’re going to give you far more choice and control over your life, but if you’d like to be governed by overlords in Washington who would cross the street to avoid talking to you, you may want to move.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

 

[Dionysus444]

First, that is the saddest and funniest admission we have seen here in a long time.

But, if you understand Republicans better than they know themselves, why do you get caught in so many lies and make so many wrong statements? Can’t you just dominate with the truth?

I do. It’s up to y’all whether to acknowledge it or brush it off. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

 

[Bill Cosby]

After we destroyed it. You think there will be political will to send Russia billions to rebuild Ukraine after they’ve destroyed it taking it? That’s insanity, we’re literally sanctioning them right now. We won’t about-face if they win.

What the hell are you talking about?

I said we will fund the rebuild then abandon them, just like we did with Afghanistan.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

 

[DrH. Lecter]

I live in Madison County and in 2020 the GE went about 65/35 for Trump. What do you tell the 35% who voted democrat? Sorry bro, you gotta pack up your family and move to a city?

Probably to go teach at a different university in a blue state.

 

[Caveman Catfan]

I do. It’s up to y’all whether to acknowledge it or brush it off. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.

No. You said you will drag the horse kicking and screaming, because it did not believe your lies. LOL

The Village People.

FIFY

 

[Bridgeman Owns TruBlu]

I’d probably say we’re going to give you far more choice and control over your life, but if you’d like to be governed by overlords in Washington who would cross the street to avoid talking to you, you may want to move.

That's a logical way to put it. But again, unless you force people to move and pay them to, the adoption rate is gonna be laughably low. How many people could even AFFORD to move right now? Anyone who bought a house during covid is getting close to being upside down already. Is the government paying all the relocation cost? How does a person living in Pike County who votes democrat expected to just afford a place in Lexington or Louisville or wherever you ask them to go? It would be cost prohibitive to even attempt it I think.

 

[Dionysus444]

What the hell are you talking about?

I said we will fund the rebuild then abandon them, just like we did with Afghanistan.

Again, that’s only if Ukraine wins though. A rebuild only happens if they drive Russia out of their country, retain their sovereignty and have to rebuild their now-liberated cities. You think Ukraine is going to do that?

 

[Slater_Wooderson]

 

[bigblueinsanity]

So the Biden visit was not any actual surprise. It was coordinated with Russia. Also the air siren hasn't gone off in a month (some siege) but was just for effect.

Nothing they do is real