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Awesome, so you're not going to listen to the secret service members that spent 8 years with Hillary, or take her actions of trying to intentionally circumvent the law that her husband had put in place? What do you call someone so hellbent on power that they do that?
However, you'll take the word of someone who spent a year with Trump 30 years ago?
Or it shows he doesn't really want to win this thing.
I vote who I think is best for our country based on the information at hand.
When I start to use "believe" or "feel" as description words, then I am choosing with the heart.
There is only one choice that I will choose based on beliefs and that involves fornication with women.
Lots of people vote for their self-interests rather than whats best for the country... which is how Obama got elected.
I thought I was implying using the best available info at hand. Since we both agreed that you don't actually know how a person governs until they are in power, we take what we know, process it, and make a leap of faith on them.
By faith I don't mean religion, faith that they will do as they say, or try too.
We are talking about Donald Trump. Why do people think he does not want to win? That guy probably dreams every night about sitting in the Oval Office and being the most powerful person in the world. It's in his DNA to be that guy.
"Gorilla tranny" is, at best, the second-most racist post I've seen ITT over the years. Might not even place that high, but I'd have to think about it.
Of all of their ideas, that one was probably Franklin, et al's best.
If people that hated both would actually vote Johnson or stop with well I'll vote for the lesser of 2 evils, it would be significant and start to contribute to ending the same establishment every 4 yrs
And yet nobody seems willing to discuss the supposedly all important differences. To parody the Seinfeld rental car scene, You know how to talk about facts. You just don't know how to cite the facts.
It may have been plagiarism but I'd bet SHE did not do it. Maybe her speech writer but not her.
And I find it hilarious that the left is all bent out of shape because of a few lines in a speech but have zero problems with a woman using an illegal server for her email. Storing top secret info illegally. Lying about the Benghazi attack. Lying to the parents of the victims and then practically calling them liars for telling what she said.
He picked him for party unity, he said so himself. I think its safe to say he wants to win.
The sadder part is that you've still never backed up your words. After everyone have averred that it would be sooooo easy.
Party unity. I guess that's a decent reason. He didn't do it to get votes though.
Does anyone actually like Hillary Clinton, fully trust Hillary Clinton and believe in what she stands for? (This could be a three answer question if you prefer.)
Me: No. Hell No. No.
Me: No. Hell No. No.
What are you even talking about? You made a blatantly false statement about people setting up email servers. Why would anyone waste their time rebutting you, when you've shown you don't give a shit about facts?
Please, cite your claim that others had private email servers set up.
It's like UNC fans with Roy Williams. They know he's a corrupt liar with major scandals but they back him because he's from their team. Dems are the same way. They're all in on this person only because she's from the Dem Party. Meanwhile, Republicans are very much divided and can't even get their own biased network to not be critical of their candidate.
Check out how Fox treats Trump and then check out how ABC, CNN, MSNBC treat Hillary.
Once again, doesn't matter (unless you're concerned that she's lying about not writing the speech). Not sure why people are hung up on who exactly plagiarized.
Here Let Me Google That For You
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes-past-secretaries-of-state/209044
http://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/web-video/missing-white-house-emails
See how easy that was? Were you actually ignorant of them? If so, are you thankful that I've corrected your misunderstanding? Should I hold my breath until you do? Will you apologize for saying "blatantly false statement"?
Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo has an hysterically funny piece on a bit of wisdom called Trump's Razor. Trump's Razor postulates that with a Trump conundrum the stupidest scenario will likely prove true. And, yes, it looks like Mrs. Trump may prove to have been the copyist. A professional speech writer from the GOP establishment -- who wrote Palin's 2008 speech -- wrote a draft for her 2 weeks ago which did not include the Michelle stuff. Melania -- and possibly another -- has/have been tinkering with it since. I think Melania did more than lift the words. I think she used Michele's delivery as a guide vocal. She doesn't appear to be a practiced public speaker.
As one would have to expect, the intertubes are having a field day. There's a side-by-side picture, of Melania and Caitlyn Jenner in matching white dresses. And the caption that asks if Michele's words were the only thing copied.
At least we know where the Occupy Wall Street guys are now
It's an interesting conundrum. There is a concentrated effort to convince me that Donald Trump is a lunatic, capable of anything, a real threat to our way of life. On one hand, I know there is a professionalized cottage industry absolutely dedicated to making that case, I know they are very good at it, I know that every 4 years the Republican nominee is "literally Hitler", I know that they are supremely untrustworthy. I know all that. On the other hand, Trump may be a lunatic, capable of anything, a real threat to our way of life.
I wont argue it isnt close. Its way closer than it shouldve been. I just dont think it was plagiarism because it wasnt a copy, and it was general concepts. Two prospective first ladies saying their husbands will work hard and be honest isnt exactly that far of a stretch.
But yes, that speechwriter should be fired, and so should anyone who approved that final draft. Way too close.
Actually, Obama's "just words" speech was far closer to plagiarism than this.
Always chiming in with useless drivel. Congrats.
Party of acceptance
The RNC twitter feed is pretty entertaining. So many lunatics out in the streets right now. An hour ago they reported a guy in a motorcycle helmet entered a building with a cinder block. They're also reporting that protestors are starting to wear masks and dress up as "anarchist medics in masks."
Nothing says "peaceful protests" like needing to wear a mask.
Nothing says "peaceful protests" like needing to wear a mask.
What are the odds Trump finishes his first term still married to Melania? A mid-term divorce would be awesome.
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