POLITICAL THREAD
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Nothing stopped him from saying Trump committed a crime. He just said they couldn't act on it if he did.
Putting anything before Congress doesn’t mean he obstructed. And I love how now liberals say well the investigation didn’t mean anything because Mueller couldn’t take any action. Why didn’t it just go straight to Congress then for an investigation?
Riiiiiight.
I’m getting #MEMODAY vibes from a lot of you today. Hilarious.
All for Donald Trump. A man who wouldn’t piss on any of his voters if they were on fire, let alone any American who isn’t a part of his base.
Pick better heroes.
Every president is gonna be investigated from now on.
Because of the difference in the new Special Counsel law which puts it in the DoJ. Compare it to Kenn Starr's investigation under the old Independent Counsel law where he delivered his report directly to Congress instead of the AG.
He isn’t my hero. But Barack and Hillary should definitely be tried for treason. They tried to overthrow a duly elected President.
Trump now has the mandate to spy on every single Democrat presidential campaign while using every apparatus of the federal government to try and entrap and frame them. So that's pretty cool.
And if the Dems keep it up, he'll win in a landslide in 2020, so he'll be able to sweep it all under the rug as was intended when god Empress Hilary Clinton, winner of the 2016 Popular Vote, was supposed to take office.
Please. Democrats are now saying they will do their own investigation- not just rely on the Mueller report.
Sure. But that doesn't have anything to do with the legal requirements placed on the Special Counsel on which I was educating you.
We're talking about the same Robert Mueller that fought to knowingly let four innocent men rot in jail then stonewall an investigation while heading the FBI until he was threatened with contempt.
And also lied about WMDs in Iraq.
That's the bastion of honor and Justice these loony toons have hung their hat on.
And also lied about WMDs in Iraq.
That's the bastion of honor and Justice these loony toons have hung their hat on.
Why do you think the Special Counsel was appointed if it was to have no legal effect whatsoever?
As I said before, to gather and lay out the facts for the appropriate constitutional process.
Now Trump just needs to do a good job obstructing this one so they can't find any evidence after two years. Then he'll just need to obstruct the investigation into the obstruction of the obstruction investigation. Rinse and repeat until 2024.
They said Jr was so stupid that he couldn't comprehend what he was doing so couldn't indict him.
That isn’t necessary because Congress wont rely on the report. They will do their own investigation. So what is the purpose?
He clearly stated that he couldn't accuse Trump of a crime because it couldn't be played out in court. We're you listening?
No, he stated they did NOT determine if Trump committed a crime. It’s wordsmithing to keep this alive.
All he would’ve had to say was Trump committed crimes, but we can’t indict, simple.
Instead he said we couldn’t prove he was innocent. That’s not how this works.
You can opine that the new Special Counsel law is silly if you'd like, but that doesn't change the legal framework.
But he could clearly state there was no sufficient evidence of collusion with Russia. Hmmm.
Again, that doesn't mean he couldn't SAY it, just that they couldn't ACT on it.
But you keep beating that dead horse.
What’s the over/under for how many pages are spent arguing over the semantics of Mueller’s statements today?
I’ll set it at 5.5.
I’ll set it at 5.5.
We just have to agree to disagree on this issue. But there is no doubt Mueller was clear that was not sufficient evidence of collusion with Russia. Which was the entire reason for this investigation.
That’s the way it’s supposed to work. Congress investigates and finds a crime. Then a Special counsel is appointed. This whole charade is bass ackwards. The special counsel didn’t find a crime so he handed it off to congress to create one.
No, as I quoted earlier, "It would be unfair to potentially, it would be unfair to potentially accuse somebody of a crime when there can be no court resolution of the actual charge. So that was Justice Department policy. Those were the principles under which we operated, and from them we concluded that we would, would not reach a determination one way or the other about whether the president committed a crime."
They were legally prevented from making a determination. But if they had been able to they would have, as stated in the report, "Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President's conduct. The evidence we obtained about the President's actions and intent presents difficult issues that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment."
For what it’s worth Kim also called trump a mentally deranged dotard but hey if you think you proved a point....
In hindsight, Lil’ Kim making a sizeable percent of the global population search the word “dotard” was amazing.
But yeah Kim and Trump deserve each other.
The American people deserve much, much better.
Seriously? This was a huge story 2 years ago
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/22/world/asia/trump-north-korea-dotard.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...g-un-calls-president-trump-frightened-n803631
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gster-kim-jong-uns-statement-on-trump-in-full
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-u-s-dotard-with-fire/?utm_term=.c2d838dd9171
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/09/trump-north-korea/540783/
Barack makes Trump look like Lincoln and Einstein all rolled up into one person.
That’s exactly what I wrote, they didn’t make a determination. You’re determining that means they are saying he obstructed but can’t do anything about it, when he says right off the bat they didn’t make a determination.
He most definitely could’ve had a sealed indictment until Trump was out of office if he thought he could indict him. Instead he punted and now wants to keep it alive.
Not for liberals like yourself who only care about illegal aliens.
Did all those BIG WORDS Obama used fry your damn brain???
LMAO!!!
I thought Obama spoke rather plainly. Predictable cadence and themes throughout his presidential speeches. Not the greatest orator, but certainly respectable as the POTUS.
Then Trump comes along, and when he speaks...he’s only relateable to the lowbrow, uneducated bums who want to take this country backwards.
Sad!!
Wrong again. Again, today's statement, "The introduction to the volume two of our report explains that decision. It explains that under long-standing department policy, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office. That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view, that too is prohibited."
I’m still holding on to the idea that this thread represents a SMALL percentage of UK fans and their ideals.
I don’t really meet idiots like this in real life.
At least not on purpose.
Probably not that many people traveling through your moms basement.
