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WildcatfaninOhio
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Pretty sad that she points to the Electoral College as a reason why she lost. She knew the rules as well as anyone. The presidential election requires you to win the electoral vote, not the popular vote. A candidate must campaign and do well in all states, not just campaign and do well with their core voting block.
It'd be like a football team complaining that they scored fewer points, but should have won the game because they had more total yards on offense. That's not how the winner is determined, so it's an invalid argument.
It'd be like a football team complaining that they scored fewer points, but should have won the game because they had more total yards on offense. That's not how the winner is determined, so it's an invalid argument.
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Weighing third term, Emanuel relies on campaign donors who get City Hall benefits.
...With the February 2019 mayoral election still a year and a half away, Emanuel has collected $3.1 million in high-dollar contributions. And more than $2.1 million of it — nearly 70 percent — has come from 83 donors who have benefited from actions at City Hall....
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The entire system is rigged. How does this b*tch get off?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ans-to-charge-lois-lerner-in-irs-scandal.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ans-to-charge-lois-lerner-in-irs-scandal.html
I'm about done with Sessions. Weakest cabinet member Trump has IMO. Sessions is great on immigration but stinks on almost everything else. Sad.
@Pelosigalore
This is another reason why I believe this wasn't the time nor the place, and that they should have just saved it for the upcoming December negotiations.
Simply put, with disaster relief included the bill was passing, regardless. The only thing opposing it accomplished was to lob softballs to Democrats, setting them up for opportunities in front of microphones/TV cameras like this...
Democrats were expected to deliver a majority of the votes to approve the deal, making it easier for Republicans to vote against the package without the threat of failing to provide critical disaster funding as Hurricane Irma bears down on Florida's southern coast.
Republican leaders avoided an embarrassing benchmark by persuading a solid majority of GOP members to support the deal. But House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the scale of the Republican revolt was still "remarkable" Friday.
"If I ever as leader or as speaker had 90 members vote against one of the easiest bills to vote for, which is disaster assistance, you know they have a philosophical problem with governance," she said.
This is another reason why I believe this wasn't the time nor the place, and that they should have just saved it for the upcoming December negotiations.
Simply put, with disaster relief included the bill was passing, regardless. The only thing opposing it accomplished was to lob softballs to Democrats, setting them up for opportunities in front of microphones/TV cameras like this...
Democrats were expected to deliver a majority of the votes to approve the deal, making it easier for Republicans to vote against the package without the threat of failing to provide critical disaster funding as Hurricane Irma bears down on Florida's southern coast.
Republican leaders avoided an embarrassing benchmark by persuading a solid majority of GOP members to support the deal. But House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said the scale of the Republican revolt was still "remarkable" Friday.
"If I ever as leader or as speaker had 90 members vote against one of the easiest bills to vote for, which is disaster assistance, you know they have a philosophical problem with governance," she said.
Hey, when we become the minority, we can stop working, suck off of the workers dime and get free stuff too.
I agree for the most part, maybe bad timing, but we can't continue to kick the can down the road. And, I can't stand pelosi politics and care not about anything she says.
My guess is they honestly hadn't been notified of a breech yet, and were just exercising options or selling shares in the normal course of their life. That's too obviously and blatantly illegal, for such a relatively small sum of money.
The funny part is they probably didn't know, they're going to get hauled in front of Congress anyway to make a scene, but if they did know and sold the stock but were Congressmen or staffers instead of regular people, it'd be completely legal.
I think Fuzz is kidding. He knows that there is a ton of social security fraud. Fuzz is a wild and crazy guy.
http://www.wthr.com/article/tax-loophole-costs-billions
There was another that said they were using Social Security numbers of dead Americans reaping benefits.
There was another that said they were using Social Security numbers of dead Americans reaping benefits.
Agree. But December is right around the corner. Again, I'm assuming here, but I think Trump was so quick to make a deal because of the disaster relief. Pretty sure, at least I hope, when disaster relief isn't in play, Trump isn't going to be so quick to accept a deal that doesn't address the debt.
If Republicans can get their shit together, the D's are irrelevant because they have the votes to pass whatever they want. If they want an 18 month increase on the debt ceiling, spending cuts, reforms etc... they can have it all.
You and me both but, in this instance, and I say this with contempt, there is some truth to her words.
Donald Mesiah Trump has done more for this country that any in my eyes. He defeated Hillary Clinton and stopped her
Thank you Mr Trump and white middle class people
Thank you Mr Trump and white middle class people
Florida AG, Bondi, going after businesses for price gouging. Opened up a hotline for the public to call and report, even threatening to activate the state's price gouging statute.
Dailysignal.com has another story out that IRS re-hired 213 employees ousted for falsifying documents, theft, and avoiding taxes. How is this possible or even allowed? Sessions is useless. More concerned about pot than criminal activity at the IRS. Swamp seems to be winning, unless I'm missing something.
What is so hard for her and ppl to accept...no one likes her. It's not bc she's a woman, Republican women have been winning walking away down ballot, she didn't campaign wi,pa,mi...she had no campaign message, she is an establishment political figure that the democrats arrogantly put up for president thinking everyone would obey. She colluded with the dnc to take out Sanders. And oh yeah...no one likes her.
Serious question... what leads you to believe this?
I'll be his #1 cheerleader if he ever does so but I'm not holding my breath.
Increased military spending, the wall, infrastructure, tax cuts... and he is going to do all this and address the debt? Or will they give projections that show the debt/deficit getting larger for the next 8 years and then start to drop???
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Can't believe I'm going to say this, but I agree with fuzz.
"Trump isn't going to accept a deal that doesn't address the debt."
Trump literally spent his life in an industry that involves more debt than probably any other industry.
That being said, tax cuts don't cost money. Spending does. I care about deficit spending. If revenue goes down due to tax cuts, spending needs to be cut. We can't stop everyday hardworking Americans from keeping more of their hard earned money because the government spends too much.
"Trump isn't going to accept a deal that doesn't address the debt."
Trump literally spent his life in an industry that involves more debt than probably any other industry.
That being said, tax cuts don't cost money. Spending does. I care about deficit spending. If revenue goes down due to tax cuts, spending needs to be cut. We can't stop everyday hardworking Americans from keeping more of their hard earned money because the government spends too much.
I wonder what the Clinton Foundation could have sold Elian Gonzales for on the open market. Do famous kids get a premium?
Good to see fuzz cares about the debt/deficit again after an 8 year hiatus.
I never said I believed it was guaranteed to happen. I said "at least I hope", but you conveniently left that part out. I well aware Trump isn't as fiscally conservative as some would like him to be. Right now Trump has all of his eggs in the tax reform basket. He's counting on that growth. If he can't get that done, he'll more than likely come close to matching Obama, which is not a good thing.
Not to mention, I was speaking specifically about the next round of negotiations coming up December. If the R's get their shit together, they have the votes to put whatever they want on Trump's desk in December, and there won't be a need to deal with D's. Trump will sign what they send him.
Now, serious question for you -- Why does the debt and government spending concern Democrats all of the sudden? Where was this concern when Obama was living ghetto fabulous?
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Shows how little you pay attention.
Remember, I am the person who suggested that tax rates should be tied directly to spending. The more you want to spend, the more you must be willing to raise taxes. Likewise, if you want to cut taxes, you must cut spending. It's easy to spend when there is no responsibility or pain associated.
Should be mentioned that Trump has cut the deficit by almost 200 billion in his first almost 9 months. While Obama spent nearly double that in the same amount of time. Trump has been pretty good on not spending a lot so far, of course some things cost money that Trump will sign. Overall I think hes been pretty solid in this regard.
We've seen much worse and Lord knows how much crap Hillary would've spent by now. Another good reason to be glad she lost.
We've seen much worse and Lord knows how much crap Hillary would've spent by now. Another good reason to be glad she lost.
See my post above. I've always been for fiscal responsibility.
You want me to criticize Democrats for spending but the GOP is equally bad. It's not as much about how much they spend but the irresponsibility of serving up tax-cuts while continuing to spend. I just want them (Washington regardless of party) to be responsible and address the deficit issue. The first one that does so will get my vote.
Seeing that Trump hasn't signed his first budget any suggestion that he has cut anything is dishonest.
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8 years under Obama with an explosion of spending, 2370 pages of this thread and you have been a mute DNC whore....nah.
The more the govt spends, the more it raises taxes on Americans. Ummmm, that doesnt sound like a good deal
Now you are worried about the debt? Obama added more debt than almost all presidents combined. You are nothing but a tool for the left. Pathetic.
