POLITICAL THREAD

[Bigmikeydelight]

And ignoring people is so "mean" because liberals can't handle it when THEY are cancelled, but love it when conservatives are.

Just like fascists only hate fascism when they aren't doing the censoring, except the glaring difference is that conservatives allow other opinions, they just stop addressing them when the holder of said opinions can't or won't listen to reason (or history).

Conservatives fight for the rights of all people and against one individual or group stepping on the rights of others. Liberals have taken advantage of that to try to take away rights of conservatives, and THAT has made liberals counted among THE enemies of the constitution.

Don’t paint with such broad strokes.

Cancel culture and protesting/blocking products and people is a bitch move.

Both sides does it. Lots of conservatives had panties in wads over the bud light nonsense. People protested the NFL for kneeling and now doing the Trump dance? FFS.

Announcing that you’re blocking someone is comically dumb. Anyone who blocks people 100% use tampons.

 

[Girthang]

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EXACTLY!

The city of NY is at war with its citizens and this situation spells it out clearly.

There is such a thing as a good Samaritan law that claims it holds people accountable for not helping others when they can. Then when people do help they use other laws to prosecute those who help. They aren't passing and enforcing laws to protect the citizenry. They are passing laws to make lawful citizens criminals.

They are CREATING CRIME across the board so they can prosecute whomever they want.

Kamala Harris said this very thing when she confessed to using lawfare to destroy people.

America needs to wake up from their "wokeness" and realize all of this lawfare, lack of enforcement and protection of our rights, unelected bureaucrats having immunity from scrutiny and prosecution, politicians ripping off and laundering the money of the people IS meant to re-enslave this population and the world as they were before this country was founded. If PEOPLE don't start protesting EVERY INJUSTICE, regardless of race, creed, or religion, they are guilty of the enslavement themselves.

 

[Girthang]

Your hate for Trump is more important to you than seeing or even looking into the truth.

Go to X. Search MarcoPolo laptop. Entire contents are available. Report back to us here.

That's like sending a 5 year old out to pick his own switch from the tree when you aren't even the one who feeds and houses him (with a candy store along the way to the tree). He'll be on his version of internet pern and forget you ever said anything

 

[Girthang]

Wait until this year's data comes out...

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Sorry to hear that your grandmother passed. My sincere condolences.

SINCE, however, you're asserting this interesting forensic analysis and the accompanying plea to emotion, I have some questions.

- Is that what the coroner published as COD? Fear?
- Did you not help her before the doctor appt?
- Did you not at least educate her about her legal options with regard to the medical debt?
- Do you even know what those are?

If any if your answers are "No," then it wasn't "fear" nor the debt that caused her death. It was something ingrained much deeper in our society. Ignorance, lack of care, its someone else's fault, and "it's not my problem" are all symptoms of the same pandemic.

I was guilty of that in my early 20s, but did what I could to reverse that trend from my 30s onward. What did you and your family do to help your grandmother?

Unfortunately, there was no autopsy. After the fact, my grandpa had shared that she had been coughing up blood all day. She hid this from everyone. Went to dad’s for Father’s Day and then she collapsed on her porch. My sister did CPR until paramedics made it and declared her dead at the house.

My sister walked with her daily. She had been diagnosed with AFIB earlier in the year. I stressed exercise each time we talked and we talked daily. She was 69 so she was on Medicare. She cleaned houses and was paid cash on the side, so had we known her symptoms, we’d stressed trip. Her heart doc was in Lexington and she lived in Monticello.

 

[AshWilliams]

Don’t paint with such broad strokes.

Cancel culture and protesting/blocking products and people is a bitch move.

Both sides does it. Lots of conservatives had panties in wads over the bud light nonsense. People protested the NFL for

Wow, what a STUPID comparison.

A touchdown celebration is NOT the same as a protest dishonoring the National Anthem. NOBODY except maybe you godless lefties gets mad at anyone kneeling in the endzone after a TD. Most people assume they're thanking God. That's not what people were doing.

Try and keep up with the rest of the class, Junior.

 

[AshWilliams]

Profit is what gets the citizens up and going, but the government is to make sure we are able to get from A to B in a safe manner. The DOD doesn't make a profit and post office doesn't either. I've heard many times that everyone loves the concept of communism until it is put into play.

I think the same thing can be said about Libertarianism. I used to love the idea of personal freedoms and low taxes, until I learned what sacrifices I'd have to make to achieve those freedoms.

The Town That Went Feral

When a group of libertarians set about scrapping their local government, chaos descended. And then the bears moved in.

newrepublic.com

This Libertarian utopia quickly devolved into chaos.

Are you going to actually construct an argument, or are you just going to keep spouting random, disconnected platitudes?

What does the DOD/Post Office have to do with A to B? What does that even mean? Stop being evasive and vague. If you can't say what you mean, just take the L and go eff off.

 

[UKBrassowTipIN]

Who is Pedo Pete and what minor did he abuse?

Your favorite president. It's what hunter biden lists Joe as in his contacts. It's fact

 

[AshWilliams]

Yeah and it pinched a lot of lower middle class out. Again, not saying it is a perfect system, but I think instead of bitching about the government (or let’s rope them in to), looks at the record profits from humana, Cigna, BCBS, etc. It is a soulless operation, fraught with bad actors.

I think it's hilarious that you trust corporations less than the government. You can't be reasoned with. Your worldview is contaminated with Marxism. The government LITERALLY produces NOTHING, yet they take trillions from everyone else and you somehow idolize them.

 

[Girthang]

I don’t really know what point you are arguing. Subjecting yourself to the stress of travel and adapting to a different time zone may very well increase your risk for certain health related misadventures, particularly if you are predisposed to such events. I’m unaware of any studies exploring that question, however the data that IS known surrounding daylight savings time change indicate there is a negative impact on health when considering a large population of individuals. Perhaps a study on such travel is warranted, though it would be exceedingly difficult to design a proper study on what would need to be a very large sample of individuals.

Neither does he. He's just not always able to grasp reason, correlations, nor understand differences between situations. He might just be pretending to be the ignorant one for attention.

One is usually individual and temporary.
The other is endemic to the entire region and system.
One is planned and subject to control, and the other is forced and not subject to control.

If you change time zones, the rhythm of the new zone is still the same as the old one and you adjust temporarily to that. The sun still comes up at the same time of THEIR day. You adjust your clock and your rhythm.

When DST kicks in EVERYTHING is thrown out of rhythm at ONCE and there's no easily adjusting to it because the sun is not where it was at 6am or 5pm yesterday. Adjusting a circadian rhythm permanently over 6 months is much more difficult than changing time zones temporarily for these reasons.

Scientifically we respond to others around us and our environment. It helps if the entire environment is in sync when we enter it. When it is all thrown out of that at once, it affects us more than when we are the small part that is affected.


I do know people that had a lot of trouble adjusting to living in Europe or the Middle East for a long term contract, but had slightly less difficulty moving back afterward. I also know of one fairly healthy person who worked out west for a week or two and had a heart attack during the return trip to the east coast when they were only in their early 40s. No question it exacerbates stress on the body, and cumulative stress could overwhelm anyone at any age, especially if it accumulates in a very condensed time frame.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

Wow, what a STUPID comparison.

A touchdown celebration is NOT the same as a protest dishonoring the National Anthem. NOBODY except maybe you godless lefties gets mad at anyone kneeling in the endzone after a TD. Most people assume they're thanking God. That's not what people were doing.

Try and keep up with the rest of the class, Junior.

Short of hurting other people or animals, IDGAF what anyone does with their time.

 

[Bigmikeydelight]

I think it's hilarious that you trust corporations less than the government. You can't be reasoned with. Your worldview is contaminated with Marxism.

Unfortunately.

I rationalize (perhaps wrongly) that government is there to protect citizens and corporations are there to maximize profits.

 

[Dore95]

Joni Ernst heading up the DOGE caucus is pretty nonsensical which is exactly what I expect from Republican leadership.

At this rate she’s going to need to focus on a primary challenger funded by the guy actually heading up the DOGE.

These uniparty MIC funded assholes all need to be sent packing.

What's wrong with Ernst? She's a big time Trump supporter isn't she?

As for DOGE, I understand that one of the first things that they/she intend to do is to eliminate remote work privileges for many federal employees. While I am generally all in favor of people working from the office, I know from experience that professional services firms have saved tons of money over the last few years in downsizing their real estate spend and allowing people to work remotely several days a week (or entirely) from home.

I also understand that the federal government (like the private sector) has taken on less office space over the last few years because so many people work from home.

So, my point is, that if the idea is to make federal government workers more productive, getting them back in the office makes sense. but, if the idea is to cut the budget of agencies (reduce spending), then I don't believe requiring in person work is the way to do it. It would have the opposite effect.

 

[Girthang]

Does Romney think calling everyone a sexist, racist Nazi piece of garbage, trying to silence opposing views, and violently attacking Republicans is "unity?"

Wait, Mitt is the uniparty poster child. Of course he's going to try to silence opposition to the uniparty. He sold out so long ago that it looks to him like the entire old neighborhood ahs been or is being torn down and his past is being erased. Poor Mitters

 

[bigblueinsanity]

What's wrong with Ernst? She's a big time Trump supporter isn't she?

As for DOGE, I understand that one of the first things that they/she intend to do is to eliminate remote work privileges for many federal employees. While I am generally all in favor of people working from the office, I know from experience that professional services firms have saved tons of money over the last few years in downsizing their real estate spend and allowing people to work remotely several days a week (or entirely) from home.

I also understand that the federal government (like the private sector) has taken on less office space over the last few years because so many people work from home.

So, my point is, that if the idea is to make federal government workers more productive, getting them back in the office makes sense. but, if the idea is to cut the budget of agencies (reduce spending), then I don't believe requiring in person work is the way to do it. It would have the opposite effect.

Agree on remote. I figure its just a way theyre going to hope many quit, to avoid paying severance. Otherwise the best thing would be to look at performance and productivity. In the private sector, some are gaming the system but id wager many in the government are.

 

[UK_fan_41102]

Democrats are giving her more money than she has ever earned here.

 

[Girthang]

"I spent 4 years focusing on every negative aspect of the last Trump administration and it drained me mentally..."

LMAO

Your party created/invented EVERY SINGLE NEGATIVE ASPECT. You were focused on 4 minute scifi/fantasy for 4 years!? Whose fault is that?

If you weren't so lazily indoctrinated, you could have seen it was all bullsht in about 5min for each fallacy later admitted by its author to be so. Grow up. Put some big boy pants on and get your reasoning to work. Gather all of the info available and make decisions not out of laziness, self-pity, guilt, and selfishness, but using reason for the betterment of everyone.

You were captive to LIES FOR 4 YEARS. LIES that those you listened to have admitted were fabricated by them. The TRUTH is what frees you, but only if you're willing to stop worshipping the story tellers

 

[screwduke1]

If the GOP itself tanks Hegseth I will probably never vote for another Republican. What a waste of a party if when we win...we have people in the party trying to make the win into a loss.

 

[Dore95]

Agree on remote. I figure its just a way theyre going to hope many quit, to avoid paying severance. Otherwise the best thing would be to look at performance and productivity. In the private sector, some are gaming the system but id wager many in the government are.

Good point. But many of these people have civil service protection so they cannot be fired unless it is a reduction in force (job elimination).

 

[Bill Cosby]

What's wrong with Ernst? She's a big time Trump supporter isn't she?

As for DOGE, I understand that one of the first things that they/she intend to do is to eliminate remote work privileges for many federal employees. While I am generally all in favor of people working from the office, I know from experience that professional services firms have saved tons of money over the last few years in downsizing their real estate spend and allowing people to work remotely several days a week (or entirely) from home.

I also understand that the federal government (like the private sector) has taken on less office space over the last few years because so many people work from home.

So, my point is, that if the idea is to make federal government workers more productive, getting them back in the office makes sense. but, if the idea is to cut the budget of agencies (reduce spending), then I don't believe requiring in person work is the way to do it. It would have the opposite effect.

She’s blocking Hegseth. She’s one of the poorer members of congress so wants that MIC future.

They want a bunch of government workers to voluntarily quit when they’re forced back in the office. It’s not about making them more productive, it’s about them self eliminating.

 

[Dore95]

If the GOP itself tanks Hegseth I will probably never vote for another Republican. What a waste of a party if when we win...we have people in the party trying to make the win into a loss.

I saw it reported that the Trump transition people are angry with Hegseth for not disclosing a lot of these personal problems that have come to light. So it may be that Trump himself is ready to move on from Hegseth. You wouldn't be under those circumstances?

 

[Bill Cosby]

Unfortunately.

I rationalize (perhaps wrongly) that government is there to protect citizens and corporations are there to maximize profits.

You rationalize (certainly wrongly).

How you could be this naive after the Covid years is astonishing.

When it comes to healthcare, the government agencies exist to distort the market and maximize profits for the large participants.

 

[Dore95]

She’s blocking Hegseth. She’s one of the poorer members of congress so wants that MIC future.

They want a bunch of government workers to voluntarily quit when they’re forced back in the office. It’s not about making them more productive, it’s about them self eliminating.

She served in combat. He is apparently on record as saying that women should not serve in combat. Given her background, isn't she entitled to be circumspect about his nomination?

 

[Bill Cosby]

I saw it reported that the Trump transition people are angry with Hegseth for not disclosing a lot of these personal problems that have come to light. So it may be that Trump himself is ready to move on from Hegseth. You wouldn't be under those circumstances?

I doubt Trump’s team is mad at Pete for not disclosing allegation the democrats are completely fabricating.

 

[Bill Cosby]

She served in combat. He is apparently on record as saying that women should not serve in combat. Given her background, isn't she entitled to be circumspect about his nomination?

Sure. But she’s playing up the bullshit Democrat allegations while allowing her name to be floated as his replacement if she’s successful in blocking him.

After Gaetz, it was obvious the establishment was emboldened. Hegseth is getting the Kavanaugh treatment.

It’s obvious what they’re doing, and anyone who participates in the charade should be primaried.

It’s not so much about supporting everything Trump wants as it is getting rid of the people who continue to play the old Washington establishment bullshit.

 

[Blackish_Mamba]

She served in combat. He is apparently on record as saying that women should not serve in combat. Given her background, isn't she entitled to be circumspect about his nomination?

Get bent leftist. Joni Ernst had an affair on her husband, Gail (weak male name kinda like how you are a weak little man), with a subordinate and then that slut begged her husband not to tell on her. WHILE SHE WAS A COMMANDING OFFICER Enough of the moral high ground we don’t care. You’re peeing in the wind here

Doug Emhoff beat women and knocked up a nanny.

No one is perfect but the effort you leftists go to take the high moral ground is pathetic.

 

[Bill Cosby]

Also, it’s not just about Hegseth. If they’re successful with the Kavanaugh play, RFK and Tulsi are next.

While I don’t agree with them on everything, I certainly welcome their new perspective, not establishment business as usual.

Republicans are signaling whether they’re team America or team Republican, and those who put party and donors over the country should be primaried.

 

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[UK_fan_41102]

 

[augustaky1]

Im shocked he didn't fall over.

I was waiting for the inevitable head jerk, drool wipe, and oh shit look......

 

[augustaky1]

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That was a modern-day B*t@h Slap.

 

[FirewithFire]

Did Dion's account get banned or something? Why is he posting under a new name?

 

[FirewithFire]

Anyone seen this person?

 

[Bill - Shy Cat]

Except that man and his predecessor bragged about:

Using AI to replace call center workers

Programmed that AI to deny most claims. To the tune of 37% of all claims

Gave a big F you to customers and said sue us

Gave stockholders 22 billion in profits. And here’s the important part:

FOR DENYING CLAIMS. This is pure evil and is insane that you can justify this.

Reminds me of the movie, “The Rainmaker”. All claims denied.

 

[Bill - Shy Cat]

You all must have forgotten about Obamacare that fixed our healthcare system.

The federal government always fixes the industries it is heavily involved in. Like college education, the military, healthcare and housing.

…… Obama phones.

 

[FirewithFire]

This is great news if you own an LLC. It's only preliminary but it's a great start.

 

[UKBlueBlood]

It's clear you don't know when you report a health effect of time change in one situation & somehow can't see that it would be equally valid in other situations. I mean staying in one place where's a time change affects people differently than if they walk across the street to another time zone?

It’s clear to me that you don’t have a solid understanding of research methodology. But it’s ok, it’s not an easy subject for most people.

 

[vhcat70]

Don't shoot the messengers, Rove or me. It's polling data:

"Donald Trump made the phrase “peace through strength” a staple of his campaign."

"some Republican neo-isolationists reject the projection of American power abroad through allies and a global military presence, decrying this as war-mongering. “Come home America” is their cry, as it was the left’s a half-century ago. And they believe a majority of Americans, including the president-elect’s new coalition, are on their side. New polling says otherwise."

"... Reagan National Defense Forum. They’ll hear the results of the forum’s annual survey of public attitudes about America’s role in the world. ..... there remains strong, bipartisan support for continued U.S. leadership in the world, increased military spending and aid to Ukraine and Israel. Americans—including Trump voters and self-identified MAGA Republicans—are also clear-eyed about who are our country’s friends and adversaries.
Asked if it is better for the U.S. “to be more engaged and take the lead” in international events or “less engaged and react,” 57% of respondents said America should “take the lead.” This includes 59% of Trump voters and 61% of MAGA Republicans. Asked whether the U.S. should “maintain military bases around the world” or “reduce our military presence overseas,” 62% of Americans, 62% of Trump voters and 63% of MAGA Republicans supported a global presence.
There’s strong support for more military spending. Seventy-nine percent of Americans want it, as well as 88% of Trump voters and 90% of MAGA Republicans. A majority of Americans (69%) worry the nation’s debt will force defense cuts. Seventy-seven percent of Trump voters and 79% of MAGA Republicans share this concern.
The public isn’t equivocal about the Ukraine war, but it is frustrated. Seventy-five percent of Americans view Ukraine as an ally and 80% see Russia as an enemy. Seventy-two percent of Trump voters and 74% of MAGA Republicans see Ukraine as an ally, and 78% of both groups view Russia as a foe. A majority of Americans—55%—support the U.S. continuing to send weapons to Ukraine.
....... 41% of Americans believe Russia is winning while only 24% think Ukraine is. ..... MAGA Republicans and Trump voters are essentially split on this question—50% of both groups oppose aid and 42% support it"

"stalemate whose resolution Americans are unsure of—only 14% believe Russia will conquer Ukraine but only 17% think Kyiv will expel Moscow’s forces entirely."
"Support for security assistance to Israel remains high: 54% of Americans, 67% of Trump voters and 68% of MAGA Republicans. Among Democrats, only 46% of Harris voters and of self-identified Democrats favor such aid to the Jewish state."

"The neo-isolationist view that the public has soured on America’s military presence abroad and assistance to global allies is mistaken. Mr. Trump should assert the timeless truth Reagan articulated in 1980, that “war comes not when the forces of freedom are strong, but when they are weak. It is then that tyrants are tempted.”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/voters-back-trumps-peace-through-strength-isolationism-foreign-policy-9cf7516d?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Good point. But many of these people have civil service protection so they cannot be fired unless it is a reduction in force (job elimination).

They could justify a rif if they wipe out huge swaths of the administrative beast. Firestone will definitely let them do that. After that decision, there is no real justification for the vast majority of these bureaucrats.

Even so i heard elon say they would offer them a very generous severance.

Also, it’s not just about Hegseth. If they’re successful with the Kavanaugh play, RFK and Tulsi are next.

While I don’t agree with them on everything, I certainly welcome their new perspective, not establishment business as usual.

Republicans are signaling whether they’re team America or team Republican, and those who put party and donors over the country should be primaried.

Exactly. Gaetz was expendable to me because he sucks but you cant give them another inch. Otherwise it empowers them to dig in on all these with fairy tale lies.

Anyone who ever argued males have privilege the last 50 years never went on a date.

Perhaps not coincidentally, those are the very ones who argue it.

 

[blubo]

what a whacky pinhead. she is one racist b