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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
You wouldn't and won't.

And that's not socialism. A mixed economy is a necessary evil, hereto shown to be at least. It's not like I don't get the socialist "argument." If the government is forced to step in to prevent calamity, it doesn't necessitate the government should step in everywhere or anywhere else. That's nonsensical and creates its own problems. You people simply don't know what you don't know: in the immortal words of Donald Rumsfeld, the unknowns are completely unknown to you. We had a similarly arrogant and ignoratn poster here before espousing socialism named Dionysus (a greek god of debauchery and chaos hwo was a pedophile) thought he had the world figured out because he went to college and got a history degree, mad at himself he was forced to work a BS job, so he spent hours upon hours here taking out his frustrations on conservatives he hated. He was a know-nothing know-it-all. Your posts, from what I';ve read, strike me in the same vein. What do you know? You're a middle school teacher in the middle of nowhere. What experience do you have actually doing anything of import someone else could've easily done?

What I mean is that your ideas and ideals only make "Sense" to people who don't actually udnerstand much, if anything, and/or people of very limited experience or ability, and people who have never had a real job, like Bernie Sanders. Incidentally, that's who you should be mad at for being rich, not the productive. You can't even have a sophisticated conversatino with your old man, but you know how to fix society such that no one has to work more than 40 hours a week while everyone has all their basic necessities met? It can be done, we can do it! Here's a 10 minute youtube video some kid made and a Vox article which will explain how!. Give me (us) a break. No, you won't stay in your lane and be gracious; you'll move the goalposts and kick the can down the road just like all others before you inculcated by your ideology. You'll be tilting at widmills whill the rest of us are enjoying an American Renaissance.
You're right. My experiences are extremely limited and I am probably not the best fit to teach economics and government. Iā€™ll stick to ecosystems.

That being said, I do see poverty and its effects every single day. I also see my hometown decay each year and I want to fix them. Weā€™ve had 40 years of neoliberal economics and in that time weā€™ve seen the gap grow.
Oh, you definitely supported this, otherwise, you wouldn't have said what you did. GFY.
2/3rds of all bankruptcies are because of medical bills. So keep simping for these thieves.
 
That's where you're ignorant. Profit is the only thing that gets people out of bed in the morning. If it weren't for profit, there would be no incentive. If you REALLY want to learn something, you should read Atlas Shrugged. Marxism doesn't work. Never has.

The solution to your complaint is to break up the really big companies and allow for MORE competition, not less. The big corporations use lobbyists to push out the little guy and get all the profits for themselves. THEY are the ones getting GOVERNMENT to put its ugly thumb on the scale.

Example: Health insurance. There are hard lines at state boundaries preventing people from shopping outside their own state. All that needs to be done is to evaporate those boundaries and health insurance policy prices would plummet. LESS regulation, not more.
Profit is what gets the citizens up and going, but the government is to make sure we are able to get from A to B in a safe manner. The DOD doesn't make a profit and post office doesn't either. I've heard many times that everyone loves the concept of communism until it is put into play.

I think the same thing can be said about Libertarianism. I used to love the idea of personal freedoms and low taxes, until I learned what sacrifices I'd have to make to achieve those freedoms.


This Libertarian utopia quickly devolved into chaos.
 
You're right. My experiences are extremely limited and I am probably not the best fit to teach economics and government. Iā€™ll stick to ecosystems.

That being said, I do see poverty and its effects every single day. I also see my hometown decay each year and I want to fix them. Weā€™ve had 40 years of neoliberal economics and in that time weā€™ve seen the gap grow.

2/3rds of all bankruptcies are because of medical bills. So keep simping for these thieves.

I don't think you know anything about ecoystems either.

People going bankrupt over medical bills ha nothing to do with profits and is no reason to celebrate a CEO making 12 million being murdered. He will have done more for people's health than you and your ideology ever could or will. You will hurt those going bankrupt over medical bills with your failed "solutions, "not help. There are better solutions to these problems than socialized medicine, which I can tell you from direct experience is no where near as good as it is here in America.
 
I don't think you know anything about ecoystems either.

People going bankrupt over medical bills ha nothing to do with profits and is no reason to celebrate a CEO making 12 million being murdered. He will have done more for people's health than you and your ideology ever could or will. You will hurt those going bankrupt over medical bills with your failed "solutions, "not help. There are better solutions to these problems than socialized medicine, which I can tell you from direct experience is no where near as good as it is here in America.
Except that man and his predecessor bragged about:

Using AI to replace call center workers

Programmed that AI to deny most claims. To the tune of 37% of all claims

Gave a big F you to customers and said sue us

Gave stockholders 22 billion in profits. And hereā€™s the important part:

FOR DENYING CLAIMS. This is pure evil and is insane that you can justify this.
 
I donā€™t really know what point you are arguing. Subjecting yourself to the stress of travel and adapting to a different time zone may very well increase your risk for certain health related misadventures, particularly if you are predisposed to such events. Iā€™m unaware of any studies exploring that question, however the data that IS known surrounding daylight savings time change indicate there is a negative impact on health when considering a large population of individuals. Perhaps a study on such travel is warranted, though it would be exceedingly difficult to design a proper study on what would need to be a very large sample of individuals.
It's clear you don't know when you report a health effect of time change in one situation & somehow can't see that it would be equally valid in other situations. I mean staying in one place where's a time change affects people differently than if they walk across the street to another time zone?
 
Why is that....you don't think your kind are up to the job?
Your the one that voted in the one found liable for sexual assault who is now nominating other sex abusers and pedophiles to lead his government agencies..... Not me.
Take a look in the mirror for the sex abusers fan club member.
 
There are no public photos of Trump or Gaetz fondling underage girls.

There are DOZENS of Biden doing that.
There are plenty of photos of Trump with Jeffrey Epstein and eye witnesses to Gaetz banging teens.
Trump was found liable in court of law for sexual assault.
Gaetz showed pics of his BS to fellow Congress members.
Hegseth's own mom trashed him for abusing women.
It's a daily clown show of sickos.
 
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Except that man and his predecessor bragged about:

Using AI to replace call center workers

Programmed that AI to deny most claims. To the tune of 37% of all claims

Gave a big F you to customers and said sue us

Gave stockholders 22 billion in profits. And hereā€™s the important part:

FOR DENYING CLAIMS. This is pure evil and is insane that you can justify this.

I didn't justify any of that. I said it's not justification to murder and your celebration of it and that you couldn't fix those problems by removing prfoit motive or scoializing medicine, certainly not without making other problems.

Read what is actually there, not what you want to be there. You remind me of madaboutblue in that respect who incidetnally was also a "teacher."
 
You wouldn't and won't.

And that's not socialism. A mixed economy is a necessary evil, hereto shown to be at least. It's not like I don't get the socialist "argument." If the government is forced to step in to prevent calamity, it doesn't necessitate the government should step in everywhere or anywhere else. That's nonsensical and creates its own problems. You people simply don't know what you don't know: in the immortal words of Donald Rumsfeld, the unknowns are completely unknown to you. We had a similarly arrogant and ignoratn poster here before espousing socialism named Dionysus (a greek god of debauchery and chaos hwo was a pedophile) thought he had the world figured out because he went to college and got a history degree, mad at himself he was forced to work a BS job, so he spent hours upon hours here taking out his frustrations on conservatives he hated. He was a know-nothing know-it-all. Your posts, from what I';ve read, strike me in the same vein. What do you know? You're a middle school teacher in the middle of nowhere. What experience do you have actually doing anything of import someone else could've easily done?

What I mean is that your ideas and ideals only make "Sense" to people who don't actually udnerstand much, if anything, and/or people of very limited experience or ability, and people who have never had a real job, like Bernie Sanders. Incidentally, that's who you should be mad at for being rich, not the productive. You can't even have a sophisticated conversatino with your old man, but you know how to fix society such that no one has to work more than 40 hours a week while everyone has all their basic necessities met? It can be done, we can do it! Here's a 10 minute youtube video some kid made and a Vox article which will explain how!. Give me (us) a break. No, you won't stay in your lane and be gracious; you'll move the goalposts and kick the can down the road just like all others before you inculcated by your ideology. You'll be tilting at widmills whill the rest of us are enjoying an American Renaissance.


Like I said, why you're here.



You're being trolled. They're going to get worse with the whining. Let them whine. They've been dealt a deathblow by this election. It only gets worse for them, unbeknownst to them.

Ignore is such a nice functionality...
 
I didn't justify any of that. I said it's not justification to murder and your celebration of it and that you couldn't fix those problems by removing prfoit motive or scoializing medicine, certainly not without making other problems.

Read what is actually there, not what you want to be there. You remind me of madaboutblue in that respect who incidetnally was also a "teacher."
Iā€™m celebrating Newtons law of gravity. Action/reaction, you know?

My grandma died back in 19, because of the deep fear of debt accrued from an ER trip. Had a dr appointment the Tuesday after Fatherā€™s Day. Guess who didnā€™t make it to the appointment?
 
You all must have forgotten about Obamacare that fixed our healthcare system.

The federal government always fixes the industries it is heavily involved in. Like college education, the military, healthcare and housing.
It certainly flawed, but ACA beats no insurance. They repel that and what are the 50 million americans gonna do?
 

He could ask the same of sexual orientation, and SHOULD, but the idea of rights being immutable is not the sole basis for all rights. Some rights are based in reply to historical abuses of the same.

According to science gender itself is immutable. You can't change someone into a different gender even with physical alteration and temporary chemicals. It is always an artificial if not simply superficial alteration, and the ruse must be maintained by chemicals indefinitely, if not more surgery, never leading to truly acquired, natural gender abilities.

Artificial from Artifice = illusion

There is no ACTUAL "sex change" surgery. There is cosmetic surgery and chemical treatment. Neither of which a child should be able to choose, much less one that has a dysphoria (mental illness) impeding sound judgment. Any parents facilitating it, should also fall under a mental illness diagnosis analogous to munchausen syndrome by proxy.

Telling someone they are a different gender than they were born to be is psychologically damaging at least if not directly abuse. If you tell someone they are ugly for a couple years of their life, it WILL direct and affect their thinking for many years to come, especially if they are told as much by someone in a "trusted companion" or family member status. It is effectively grooming with all of its darker connotations.
 
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We have socialism for farmers when fields do not yield results. We have socialism when big banks and businesses are on the verge of calamity.

If you were a true capitalist, youā€™d been livid that Trump and Biden forgave 3.7 trillion in PPE loans. Like if a business is forced to closed, thatā€™s natural selection. We have a system that enriches the already rich. I can speak hyperbole here, but I just want to see a just system.

Iā€™d prefer a system with strong unions and worker rights, but if Trump is able to deliver in a different way, but relief the burden of everyday life Iā€™ll stay in my lane and be very gracious.
Would they need those loans if the state didn't forceably shut them down?
 
It certainly flawed, but ACA beats no insurance. They repel that and what are the 50 million americans gonna do?
Remember when you could choose a plan you wanted for virtually nothing?

Poor ppl get Medicaid. The marketplace plans are theft, you are forcing ppl who earn too much to get Medicaid to buy a plan that's worse than Medicaid, more expensive than castotrophy insurance, that doesn't work across state lines

It's a scam like all things developed by the govt
 
Ignore is such a nice functionality...

And ignoring people is so "mean" because liberals can't handle it when THEY are cancelled, but love it when conservatives are.

Just like fascists only hate fascism when they aren't doing the censoring, except the glaring difference is that conservatives allow other opinions, they just stop addressing them when the holder of said opinions can't or won't listen to reason (or history).

Conservatives fight for the rights of all people and against one individual or group stepping on the rights of others. Liberals have taken advantage of that to try to take away rights of conservatives, and THAT has made liberals counted among THE enemies of the constitution.
 
Remember when you could choose a plan you wanted for virtually nothing?

Poor ppl get Medicaid. The marketplace plans are theft, you are forcing ppl who earn too much to get Medicaid to buy a plan that's worse than Medicaid, more expensive than castotrophy insurance, that doesn't work across state lines

It's a scam like all things developed by the govt
Yeah and it pinched a lot of lower middle class out. Again, not saying it is a perfect system, but I think instead of bitching about the government (or letā€™s rope them in to), looks at the record profits from humana, Cigna, BCBS, etc. It is a soulless operation, fraught with bad actors.
 
Now libs say trump has an iq of 73, and base that on supposedly an iq test from decades ago found in a closet lol.

You all must have forgotten about Obamacare that fixed our healthcare system.

The federal government always fixes the industries it is heavily involved in. Like college education, the military, healthcare and housing.

We're from the government and we're here to help.
 
Your the one that voted in the one found liable for sexual assault who is now nominating other sex abusers and pedophiles to lead his government agencies..... Not me.
Take a look in the mirror for the sex abusers fan club member.
They tell you to your face how they do it and you still fall for it



Also biden raped tara reade
 
Iā€™m fine cutting spending. I am fine giving up luxuries in the short term for long term successes, but thereā€™s irony in these millionaire and billionaire politicians and advisors telling me itā€™s going to be hard without they themselves not feeling the pinch.

Youā€™re missing the forest for the trees. Unless youā€™ve always owned your business or worked for government, someone has benefited from your output. My qualms donā€™t like with Joe HVAC, who started his business and 20 years ago and is very successful. My problems lie squarely at businesses like dollar tree, Amazon, etc. that manipulate hours to maximize profits at the expense of workers.

Iā€™ll add one more thing. Our country shouldnā€™t profit on crime and punishment, education, or healthcare. Insurance on my car and house is there in the event of a random disaster. Knock on wood, Iā€™ve never had to file a claim. At some point, we are all going to experience a medical emergency, so why do we let these arseholes decide what is covered and what isnā€™t, especially since weā€™ve already paid in. Like I said previously, all politicians and healthcare CEOā€™s should be nervous. That nervousness keeps them honest.
We shouldn't profit?

Who would start a business for anything, or offer better customer service, or innovate?

Let me make it simple...let's say you made hand crafted furniture. Would you open a shop, spend all the over head to get it open, buy tools, etc etc...then put all that work and time in to make the furniture then just sell it to make your money back? No, you'd just make what you wanted for yourself then sit home.

That's basic economics 101, everything that exists, exists because of profit or it wouldn't exist. There's not a single thing in your house that's there or got there without profit behind it.

Anything the govt provides is due to profit. You get govt school lunch? The govt had to pay someone for that food....
 
Iā€™m celebrating Newtons law of gravity. Action/reaction, you know?

Um... that's not "Newtons law of gravity"

At all. Ever. Anywhere.


My grandma died back in 19, because of the deep fear of debt accrued from an ER trip. Had a dr appointment the Tuesday after Fatherā€™s Day. Guess who didnā€™t make it to the appointment?

Sorry to hear that your grandmother passed. My sincere condolences.

SINCE, however, you're asserting this interesting forensic analysis and the accompanying plea to emotion, I have some questions.

- Is that what the coroner published as COD? Fear?
- Did you not help her before the doctor appt?
- Did you not at least educate her about her legal options with regard to the medical debt?
- Do you even know what those are?

If any if your answers are "No," then it wasn't "fear" nor the debt that caused her death. It was something ingrained much deeper in our society. Ignorance, lack of care, its someone else's fault, and "it's not my problem" are all symptoms of the same pandemic.

I was guilty of that in my early 20s, but did what I could to reverse that trend from my 30s onward. What did you and your family do to help your grandmother?
 
Joni Ernst heading up the DOGE caucus is pretty nonsensical which is exactly what I expect from Republican leadership.

At this rate sheā€™s going to need to focus on a primary challenger funded by the guy actually heading up the DOGE.

These uniparty MIC funded assholes all need to be sent packing.
 
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