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I made the distinction between a fee to search a database from perhaps a private company because you lost the original they gave your family to find where to get your free replacement birth certificate.
I didn't say shit about driving to the polling place, I said the bmv. My nearest bmv is about 8 miles away. Even if I take the bus, that costs money, so is it STILL unconstitutional?
Make a real point here, and quit making up shit I never said. And quit using some quasi intellectual 'reducto ad absurdum' nonsense.
You sound like a pompous first year law student. Except you didn't go to law school.
Then figure out a way that does. Make that documentation free if you want.
It's the Constitution's problem, though. Voting can never be contingent on money, period. Constitutionally. You can make me jump through whatever bureaucratic hoops to vote you want, but none of them can cost one ever-loving red cent. Constitutionally.
So Riley Gaines just shouldn't swim because she can't beat Phelps or Ledecky?
Ok, then, shinsplints. (Since that's about his level of intellect)
Already solved. You get a free copy of all the documents I listed (to prove citizenship) Replacement cost isn't the tax payers' problem.
Photo ID? I have no problem providing those for free. But again, that's not my problem. However, it IS a necessity to insure a fair Federal election. (along with the FREE documents that I, you know, already listed) I'm telling you how to solve the problem, you're hung up on how to pay for it, so your argument is not with me.
Apologize, Classics major, Latin crap happens sometimes when I've been drinking. Bus, driving, whatever, the point is still the same; you can walk to the polls on your own two feet.
She should swim for the exact same reason she ever has, to beat her times. If she was only swimming for the podium, sorry, but life doesn't hand out participation awards. That's what y'all are always saying, right?
Crazy Christians want children’s books in kids libraries that are explicit with sex and pornography banned.
Such a radical position.
Most rational people do not want this no matter what your fav redditor forum says. The only people that would push for kids to have access to these types of books in a school are groomers and pedos. Does the shoe fit?
Agreed but they want control of the party. That's what they see as their means to the levers of power. They are more than willing to sacrifice Kamala to get a muslim or commie on the ticket in the next couple of cycles.
They aren't going to just vote as a block.... They want in at the top of the ticket and are making it clear they will sit out if they aren't appeased... just like in the 60's and then people like Clinton got elected and people like Obama got elected. The dnc just keeps moving left. The further they move left the more they scream about normal people being way far right. LOL
I think the time is actually coming for Black Republicans. We just aren't there yet. Same with Buttigieg for the Dems this cycle.
Wasn’t directed to you if that’s what you mean.
You’re going to be surprised about the bottom part as well. Just give it some time, it’ll come out.
You're saying a requested replacement is also free? Because a birth certificate from 18+ years ago ain't cuttin it.
I'm saying you get a birth certificate for free. And you also get citizenship papers for free. If you lose them, that's on you. But you DO get them for free. YOU GET THEM FOR FREE Dion. LOL
(And they don't expire)
(And they don't expire)
This could absolutely be an inflection point. The protesters don't care though. They're doing what they think is right despite the strategy. Hard to fault them.
Doesn't matter, you aren't legally responsible for the upkeep of those documents as you're a minor. Duh. Like I said, if you're talking about offering free replacements, sure. But you can't claim providing the originals as meeting the constitutional standard.
You dont have to be Republican to vote in the Repub primaries. And a black man/woman would excel in the party because we all know black people from both parties would vote for them regardless of what side theyre on. But our black candidates the last 15 years haven't had one tenth of the speaking ability of a Obama, therefore they lose. I'm surprised this is so difficult to comprehend.
If blacks make up for 13% of the US population, what % are Republican and what % of that want to be in politics? By numbers, we're lucky to have any.
The manner or cost of how replacements are obtained is YOUR issue, not mine. Free or not, it does not change the fact that proof that you are entitled to register, and then prove who you are, to vote in an election should be required. Work the rest out on your own.
Like I said; your issue isn't with the law, it is with funding. I mean, you ARE for valid Federal elections, right? (I suspect that you are NOT, in fact, for transparent/fair/legal Federal elections) LOL
Well, I don't actually SUSPECT it, I KNOW it to be fact, based on what you say.
Like I said; your issue isn't with the law, it is with funding. I mean, you ARE for valid Federal elections, right? (I suspect that you are NOT, in fact, for transparent/fair/legal Federal elections) LOL
Well, I don't actually SUSPECT it, I KNOW it to be fact, based on what you say.
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Fine with me. Like I've always said, long as it's free.
Why? What would I have against fair elections? I'm the one always advocating for fairer elections where someone in Wyoming's vote doesn't count more than 4 times what someone in California's does. Or RCV, where you can vote for who you actually want instead of always having to hold your nose.
They keep telling us what they really think and libs keep telling us that nobody is saying that....
SCOTUS has held that requiring a photo ID/proof of Citizenship is NOT a poll tax. So this entire debate is silly (as a practical matter)
So, the law is clear; States have the right, nay, the RESPONSIBILITY to demand those bona fides of a voter who wishes to participate in a Federal Election. The big question is, why are states that DON'T require strict compliance with Federal election law not being sued to hell and back?
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I suspect that Trump actually has an above average IQ, but may be "on the spectrum". Asperger's etc. Trouble with impulse control and difficulty recognizing social cues.
Kamala might be the same, but she has no actual "track record" to base anything on. She hasn't really ever accomplished ANYTHING in life. It's been just like Biden (and, to be fair, a LOT of politicians, on both sides of the aisle) Career politicians, are there for a reason, and it "weren't brains that got them there..." They're a cancer, and THE primary reason this country is this | | close to being proper f***ed.
Not a damned naive aspect about it, Señor. I trust Wall Street Journal coverage over whatever horseshit you feel like spouting today.
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Can you imagine what you’re talking about? Suddenly we are all unregistered voters and have to re-register by proving citizenship. Many millions would need a replacement birth certificate to do that. You make them free, but how much money will it cost the state governments to issue these replacements? How much time? Do we have to do all of this in person by waiting in long lines? How many people actually take the time and effort to re-register.
When it comes down to it, this is all cynical politics. More Republicans will take the time and energy to re-register than Democrats.
This reminds me of the Republican opposition to the “motor voter” bill 30 years ago (where you could register to vote when you got your drivers license). That bill/law made it easier to register to vote, so Republicans opposed it. The harder it is to register, the better for Republicans, and vice versa.
Anyway, cynical politics on each side.
Hate to break this to you, but your candidate is Donald Trump. Once upon a time he was entertaining and engaging. For the last few years he's rambled incoherently, quickly moving from one half-thought to the next. I could post hundreds of clips of him talking about confusing shit like us defending our airports against the British, windmills causing cancer, and him believing you need an id to buy eggs. The guy your party keeps voting for, three straight times now, is legitimately a terrible speaker. There was a time when he wasn't but he is now.
Noone said they werent qualified. Just none qualified that actually want the position. Big difference.
There is nothing racist about it. First there are scarce few people that are qualified to be president. Then of those, scarce few want it.
So before even discussing race, the amount of people who meet both criteria of 1) qualified and 2) wanting it is already miniscule. Then throw in the population percentage and it takes literally a perfect storm.
It isnt too different than many industries in general. There is a huge push in the tech industry to hire minorities but there is a major problem - none apply. These companies all started major urban outreaches trying to make tech jobs appealing but its met with scant interest and even less success from the scant few interested.
People like myself think free will should govern, even to make bad decisions. If minorities dont want to embrace the incredible opportunities out there, that's their choice. White Libs on the other hand want to basically Shanghai minorities and thrust them into service at the behest of whites, because white libs inherently think blacks are too stupid to know whats good for them.
You are not wrong. Just don't understand why we can't seem to find and then chose better candidates in this great country.
So many intelligent people out there that would be so much better for our nation.
Starting to think we are just getting who we deserve??
It isn't just "cynical politics", it's the law. LOL
Following the law isn't always easy or convenient. That's not an excuse for not following it.
4 of your 5 paragraphs were valid points. The last one went off the rails.
Have you actually paid attention, and listened to his opponent? 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄
So we all now agree that proof of citizenship and an ID is required, in order to vote in Federal elections, right?
And so it follows that, if those requirements are not met, then those elections are invalid.
What else can I help you folks with?
And so it follows that, if those requirements are not met, then those elections are invalid.
What else can I help you folks with?
