As this case shows the constitutional concerns at play here are at the forefront of politics like it or not. Just like abortion. These are uncomfortable topics but laws are being passed and cases are being decided that affect us all. Just as much as the tax code, foreign policy, or domestic regulations and bureaucracy.
They're always so generous and virtuous with someone else's money and neighborhoods.
It's our taxes too. The tax code affects us all. (Not equally, as the more you can afford to spend on not paying the more you can dodge. But that issue isn't partisan.)
That’s why you need great tax lawyers 🍺 praise Jesus !
It is interesting how you so respect the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but not the supreme law of the land. You just don’t like to mention the First Amendment at all. Article VI of the constitution makes the constitution the supreme law of the land. It’s not just a hurdle to your desire to force the baker, it is the hurdle. You don’t like to address it, but any law formed by congress is subject to the constitution.
You may pay more taxes today. Please do.
Well my hypotheticals are mostly to explain the court's ruling that the majority here seems to disagree with. So do you think the CO Supreme Court will overturn it on the appeal? @Caveman Catfan is already on record, care to join him?
Because I don't think it's applicable here. The courts have ruled the pink cake with blue frosting isn't compelled speech so there isn't a free speech issue, which just leaves religion. He's perfectly free to practice his religion. His Christianity doesn't compel him to own a bakery. If he feels it compels him to not sell pink cakes with blue frosting to a trans person then ok, he's free not to. He just can't then turn around and sell to other people. That side of the equation is what the Civil Rights Act covers and what's operative here. Not the First Amendment.
They can be, we just have to be vigilant across the many forms of encroachment. We are a secular state. This is one such battle. If we start losing them we could go the way of Turkey.
So can I chalk this up as another prediction of overturn on appeal? I may keep a tally.
No. I said the Supreme Court. Not the Supreme Court of Colorado. I even clarified that I have made no predictions about the appellate process in Colorado. Please attempt to demonstrate a bit of character here and quit with the silly gamesmanship.
Dude, quit with the redundant claim that the government can force him out of business if he wants to respect his sincere religious beliefs. How many times are you going to post the same post? Everyone here knows that you don’t believe that freedom means having your religious beliefs AND being able to pursue your own business.
Holy shit did you really not get the joke? He's slamming y'all calling the male homosexuality "disgusting, grotesque, and evil" while totally being fine with the chicks kissing. It's a classic bait-and-switch. Even got the guy in the crowd to cheer.
Well that's fine but you didn't specify which Supreme Court and CO's is the next step in the process. Your prediction is for SCOTUS, heard.
Such grandstanding for Taliban to get tossed from a Trump event, I’m sure she hopped on her magic carpet and flew back 🍺
And the other half are crazy.
From the appellate court decision itself: "Additionally, the division concludes that CADA’s prohibition against discrimination based on a person’s transgender status does not violate a proprietor’s right to freely exercise or express their religion." That's directly in reference to the First Amendment freedom of religion claim.
Those who are so gung ho about raising taxes can lead by example. Hey libs, why not send in an extra thousand or two to the IRS every month over and beyond what they will take from you.
The rest are trans or cross dressers. Nice move Joe. I give it to you, you do have one queer cabinet.
Dion, I expressly rejected your false claim that I predicted the Colorado court’s decision and informed you that I made no predictions about the state court action.
Who is the racist that chose the shortest month of the year for Black History Month?
I said I got it you meant SCOTUS, no reason to be pedantic. But if you're going to be then I'd have to point out that you posted there about the CO state appellate court, not the state Supreme Court. Different courts.
It says right there you can't discriminate. The "prohibition against discrimination based on a person’s transgender status does not violate a proprietor’s right to freely exercise or express their religion." Doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, the prohibition against discrimination doesn't violate it. Freedom of religion is not operable in this case as you're perfectly free to just not sell cakes. You have your right to religious freedom. That isn't a right to sell cakes.
