POLITICAL THREAD

[Dionysus444]

I'm glad that you're asking questions and at least trying to open your mind a bit. When you get older, you'll figure stuff out.

It's not a massive conspiracy. Our election was changed. Legally and illegally. States decided because of covid, our election procedures needed to be massively overhauled. And they did it.

Next, there's a lot of stuff we can do about a lot of things. As a card carrying atifa member, you understand how to change government.

Yes, our leaders have absolutely rigged and changed elections before. Just not on this scale. Biden was such an unlikeable, unlikely pos candidate going against one of the greatest presidents of all time, there needed to be drastic measures....like completely overhauling election procedures. No questions asked mass mail ballots.

Yes, democracy as we think of it absolutely has been dead for a good while.

You're not a complete lost cause.

Next, go find out what a liberal really is.

Of course the election was different than usual, access was increased. But did they create fake votes and cheat or not? Letting more people vote than usual is not rigging an election.

And what you think liberalism "really is" is misguided libertarian idealism. We won't be truly free until we have economic freedom, true equality of opportunity.

 

[gobigbluebell]

But why care at all then? You're posting in a politics thread on a sports forum. You obviously care a ton. Why? If every election is rigged and we have literally no say in the political process there's no reason to get involved or be invested in the outcome AT ALL. Just live your life and ignore it because you can't affect it, it'll be the same either way. The only reason to participate in the political process is if your input(vote) matters to the outcome.

Dion, the large majority of people do not vote. For anything. People don't vote.

So, when you magically decide EVERYONE GETS TO VOTE!!! Because of covid...You just introduced a mountain of votes, largely from a lot of people who never vote, have no intention of voting, etc. But they got ballots now! And we're gonna mail them, or something.

That's just the most glaring example of how this particular election is vastly different than others. When you have that many more votes and ballots, it's way easier to swing the totals you need compared to if you're only working with a normal, smallish group of voters who input their votes at the booth, not in the mail.

 

[gobigbluebell]

Of course the election was different than usual, access was increased. But did they create fake votes and cheat or not? Letting more people vote than usual is not rigging an election.

Common sense would say yes, they did. If you subscribe to the idea that voting has been a shame for a long time now (which it has to some degree...), which you brought up, and it's a valid point - then, you would have to agree that common sense says MORE cheating took place in this particular election in which there was way more opportunity for cheating to take place.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Wow....not running for re-election...not sure what to make of it

 

[Dionysus444]

Dion, the large majority of people do not vote. For anything. People don't vote.

So, when you magically decide EVERYONE GETS TO VOTE!!! Because of covid...You just introduced a mountain of votes, largely from a lot of people who never vote, have no intention of voting, etc. But they got ballots now! And we're gonna mail them, or something.

That's just the most glaring example of how this particular election is vastly different than others. When you have that many more votes and ballots, it's way easier to swing the totals you need compared to if you're only working with a normal, smallish group of voters who input their votes at the booth, not in the mail.

Several states have had voting by mail for years. Only a few states mailed out ballots to registered voters. You're trying to create a narrative here for the whole country that isn't factually accurate state by state on the ground about the logistics of conducting elections.

Common sense would say yes, they did. If you subscribe to the idea that voting has been a shame for a long time now (which it has to some degree...), which you brought up, and it's a valid point - then, you would have to agree that common sense says MORE cheating took place in this particular election in which there was way more opportunity for cheating to take place.

But again, why would it matter? If cheating determines election outcomes it doesn't matter the degree of cheating. Small or gigantic is irrelevant if it's already altering the outcome.

 

[dbmhoosier]

Let's go Brandon!

 

[Bill Derington]

Several states have had voting by mail for years. Only a few states mailed out ballots to registered voters. You're trying to create a narrative here for the whole country that isn't factually accurate state by state on the ground about the logistics of conducting elections.

It’s not a narrative Dion, it’s reality.

Millions of unaccounted absentee ballots were still not election hands after vote totals from Election Day were known.

The use of unmonitored drop boxes with no chain of custody in many locales were used. The waiving or easing the signature verifications were implemented, poll watchers were restricted or blocked, counting occurred with no poll watchers in some cases.
It was a sham election, voting is easy, always has been.

 

[mdlUK.1]

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Wow....not running for re-election...not sure what to make of it

Good riddance!!!!

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Let's go Brandon!

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Unfortunately I think the only way this might turn around is if it hits absolute rock bottom. The southwest situation is perfect example because msm keeps talking about it all being weather related.

So imo the only way up is if we keep on the downward spiral

 

[FirewithFire]

Trans boy rapes girl in school bathroom then the father is arrested for bringing it up in a school board meeting and used as an example of "domestic terrorism" by Merrick Garland, trans boy goes back to school and rapes again.

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/1...mplicates-local-and-federal-officials-n455371

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...g-says-daughter-raped-boy-girls-bathroom.html

On June 22, Scott Smith was dragged out of a Loudoun County school board meeting after listening to the woke school board justify its transgender bathroom policies. He says he was trying to tell the room that his daughter had been raped by a boy 'wearing a skirt' in the girls' bathroom just weeks earlier and that the school ignored it.

Second incident: The Loudoun County Sheriff's Office did confirm the October 6 incident, saying in a press release on October 7: 'A teenager from Ashburn has been charged with sexual battery and abduction of a fellow student at Broad Run High School.

I remember when this all happened but no one would ever say why it happened. Now we know why. You should read these articles. There is so much WTF going on here that I can't post it all.

 

[rupp876]

I'm just joking around...seen it all. Except those Star Wars movie. I tried to watch them, I really tried. Actually I didn't try, 5 minutes in I knew that sh-t wasn't for me. I have watched Smokey and the Bandit.

It's nice to know someone has the same opinion of Star Wars. I made it through the first one and left it at that.

 

[JStaff2187]

Zuby must be another one of those Black white supremacists.

He is the blackest of the whitest supremacist. So black, he’s white. Just like Dave Chapelle.

 

[bigblueinsanity]

Unfortunately I think the only way this might turn around is if it hits absolute rock bottom. The southwest situation is perfect example because msm keeps talking about it all being weather related.

So imo the only way up is if we keep on the downward spiral

I remember alot of people here mistook my post last month about being glad about major tax increase to the wealthy. It's along these same lines. Hopefully cargo is so backed up, noone can get anything they want (but still get what they need). I hope home prices and inflation go through the roof and gas is so expensive people can barely afford leisure activity. That public schools continue to ram through crt in their smug elitist way.

The only way to end this liberal bs is for people to see it for what it is - failed nonsense where logic is replaced with make believe, fact replaced with fiction, and truth labeled as conspiracy. Incremental decline doesn't get noticed and words alone have no impact especially when the price of speaking out is so great. It must hit people at home so they can see this is reality, not a conspiracy theory.


The only way we get any chance at turning this around is when the average person sees the price of doing nothing as greater than the price of doing something. Unfortunately that requires alot of pain in the short term to hopefully avoid the endless pain of socialism

 

[BigSexyCat]

I have a question. If the election really was stolen by a massive multistate conspiracy that gave Biden enough fake votes to depose antiestablishment Trump and the thousands of participants in it are so hardcore and talented that NONE of them ratted or got caught, what the heck can any of us do about it? If they had this cheating infrastructure entrenched enough to do this to Trump they've done it for elections up and down the ballot for years. Ones with much smaller totals and margins where it'd be much easier. If this election was fake all of our elections have been fake for decades and the idea of American democracy being fought for has been dead and buried since before any of us were born.

Elections have been manipulated and stolen for years but to this scale probably not. So what's changed? You have one percent of the population that controls more wealth than the entire rest of the population. That's what's changed.

 

[JStaff2187]

Did you see the piece that got leaked that basically said all of a Congress been taking ivermectin this whole time despite demonizing it to the public. Ivermectin isn’t quite the cash cow the wax is. And not sure how a “ivermectin passport” would work anyway and we can’t have people just going and doing as they please. This is the new normal damnit.

We get Obamacare. They get something else.

We get some legislation where we all have to do/pay X. They get an exemption.

We get told to/mandated to get jabbed. They get ivermectin.

I could go on, but you get the point. It’s baffling so many people go along with this and have 0 issues.

 

[Dionysus444]

It’s not a narrative Dion, it’s reality.

Millions of unaccounted absentee ballots were still not election hands after vote totals from Election Day were known.

The use of unmonitored drop boxes with no chain of custody in many locales were used. The waiving or easing the signature verifications were implemented, poll watchers were restricted or blocked, counting occurred with no poll watchers in some cases.
It was a sham election, voting is easy, always has been.

So your position is this was a unique instance of cheating and that previous elections were legit. How in the world did they organize and execute that? Just wham bam thank you ma'am over the course of the last few years they developed and installed 100% loyal operatives in all the swing states across the country and executed their plan flawlessly with no leaks? I asked the original question about previous elections exactly because that premise is so absolutely absurd on its face. This cheating infrastructure would had to have already been in place and active. And if that's the case then why bother? It's all a farce already. Including Trump.

 

[Dionysus444]

Elections have been manipulated and stolen for years but to this scale probably not. So what's changed? You have one percent of the population that controls more wealth than the entire rest of the population. That's what's changed.

What'd Trump do to that 1% that was so heinous it required an unprecedented intervention into the election by them to steal it from him? Cut their taxes? Hillary, Obama, Bill Gates, and George Soros aren't in Guantanamo no matter what Q says.

 

[BigSexyCat]

What'd Trump do to that 1% that was so heinous it required an unprecedented intervention into the election by them to steal it from him? Cut their taxes? Hillary, Obama, Bill Gates, and George Soros aren't in Guantanamo no matter what Q says.

Hillary....Trump won the 2016 election and denied her from her destiny.

Obama....Trump reversed ever executive order Obama made and was enacting nationalism versus Obamas globalist plans.

Bill Gates....Trump was denying foreign worker replacement visas to cheap foreign tech workers who replaced American tech workers.

Soros...Trump was reversing Soros open borders plans by building the wall and securing the border.

Who else you got?

 

[Dionysus444]

We get Obamacare. They get something else.

Wrong. They purchase a gold-level Obamacare policy on the exchanges.

 

[mdlUK.1]

 

[Bill Derington]

So your position is this was a unique instance of cheating and that previous elections were legit. How in the world did they organize and execute that? Just wham bam thank you ma'am over the course of the last few years they developed and installed 100% loyal operatives in all the swing states across the country and executed their plan flawlessly with no leaks? I asked the original question about previous elections exactly because that premise is so absolutely absurd on its face. This cheating infrastructure would had to have already been in place and active. And if that's the case then why bother? It's all a farce already. Including Trump.

What part of millions and millions of unaccounted ballots on election night after totals were known do you not get?

No one knew if they were filled out or not, if they had been in drop boxes or not, the drop boxes which are normally at election headquarters were everywhere unaccounted for in some cities. There was no chain of custody in many cases.

It didn’t have to be nationwide, just a few select cities. What does it matter if there were leaks? The media won’t cover it, hell, they’re providing cover. There’s been evidence presented, the media instead of looking at it neutral are creating excuses.

The safeguards on election integrity were lowered or dropped, without legislative approval, for the 2020 election. Voters that had been removed from the books were reinstated by executive order, or courts in some states.
2020 was not a secure election, it was a joke.

 

[Dionysus444]

Hillary....Trump won the 2016 election and denied her from her destiny.

Obama....Trump reversed ever executive order Obama made and was enacting nationalism versus Obamas globalist plans.

Bill Gates....Trump was denying foreign worker replacement visas to cheap foreign tech workers who replaced American tech workers.

Soros...Trump was reversing Soros open borders plans by building the wall and securing the border.

Who else you got?

Seriously? I gave that list as a joke. Hillary doesn't run/control dick all or she would've used it to win her election. Give me one example of a billionaire doing badly because of Trump.

 

[Bill Derington]

What'd Trump do to that 1% that was so heinous it required an unprecedented intervention into the election by them to steal it from him? Cut their taxes? Hillary, Obama, Bill Gates, and George Soros aren't in Guantanamo no matter what Q says.

He was killing their golden goose, China, and illegal immigration which artificially lowers wages. Just today the Biden admin ended mass immigration arrests at plants.
That hurts American workers, it helps illegal immigrants and the companies.

Trumps actions had caused American workers wages to increase because unemployment was so low.

Biden will end the tariffs on China soon, they won’t be held accountable for Covid, and the American people will be screwed while the elites carry on as if it were 2015.

 

[BigSexyCat]

Seriously? I gave that list as a joke. Hillary doesn't run/control dick all or she would've used it to win her election. Give me one example of a billionaire doing badly because of Trump.

https://www.wnd.com/2021/05/zuckerb...-wisconsin-lawmakers-vote-curb-outside-funds/

Hope Zuckerberg will suffice. What else ya got.

 

[Dionysus444]

https://www.wnd.com/2021/05/zuckerb...-wisconsin-lawmakers-vote-curb-outside-funds/

Hope Zuckerberg will suffice. What else ya got.

I said an example of a billionaire suffering financially because of Trump. This is about election donations. Ol' Cuckerberg is flush with cash to donate and influence with thanks to Trump.

 

[BigSexyCat]

I said an example of a billionaire suffering financially because of Trump. This is about election donations. Ol' Cuckerberg is flush with cash to donate and influence with thanks to Trump.

Give me one example of a billionaire doing badly because of Trump.

Thanks to Trump? Aside from lower corporate tax rates give me one example of how Trump helped Zuckerberg financially.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

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My account here has been hacked and deleted.

That's some first class dumbassery right there.

 

[starchief5]

A record number of people quitting their jobs in August. A humanitarian crisis at the Mexico border. The Afghanistan debacle, empty shelves in stores, crime out of control, inflation going through the roof. I'm still waiting for a democrat, Biden voter to tell us one thing that's better off now compared to 9 months ago. You people that put this incompetent thing off on America should hang your heads in shame. You have ruined our country.

Taiwan will probably be taken back by China under Biden's watch as well. They are certain Biden will blink.

 

[Dionysus444]

Give me one example of a billionaire doing badly because of Trump.

Thanks to Trump? Aside from lower corporate tax rates give me one example of how Trump helped Zuckerberg financially.

He also cut his personal tax rate. That's really the only legislative accomplishment Trump had. But the biggest thing is not cracking down on his platform. Limit the spread of misinformation or break it up entirely. Facebook's still raking in the dollars from conservative boomers like it always has with no consequences or repercussions. Trump didn't do a damn thing to Zuckerberg. He isn't your savior.

 

[starchief5]

Cnn on a normal one.

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Only CNN would regard a Hollywood actor's opinion of a president national news.

 

[ukalumni00]

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Just bizarre and creepy. Totally satirical



Conspiracy theory! But...the Merck proteas inhibitor will work wonders

---- experts

Who talks like that to kids who are not toddlers?? Everything about her and this administration is fake. None of these people have one ounce of integrity left in their souls.

 

[duke4life831]

Yesterday was f’ing Columbus Day, Kristi Noem - you POS scumbag RINO.

I dont think she is a RINO. Nothing about her policies are like a RINO. The issue is I think the quick rise and not being ready and the constant push back got to her.

I know she got a lot of crap about the trans thing and at the same time DeSantis signed the same trans thing that she didnt. But to be fair on her part, it was much easier for DeSantis to sign that bill than it was for her. She had the NCAA threatening to boycott South Dakota. The NCAA wouldve done that with no hesitation and that wouldve really hurt South Dakota. Then when you look at Florida, there was no chance in hell the NCAA would try and boycott Florida with all of their big time college programs.

But again I dont think she handled it well. I dont think she has handled anything well since how she handled COVID. Her on Tucker was a disaster and it was clear she wasnt ready for a bigger stage and the constant spotlight on her. And I think she has just made panicked decisions since. But I dont think she is a RINO.

 

[screwduke1]

This Hardees next to my work is closing everyday at 2pm. Biden is turning this country into Venezuela quickly.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I dont think she is a RINO. Nothing about her policies are like a RINO. The issue is I think the quick rise and not being ready and the constant push back got to her.

I know she got a lot of crap about the trans thing and at the same time DeSantis signed the same trans thing that she didnt. But to be fair on her part, it was much easier for DeSantis to sign that bill than it was for her. She had the NCAA threatening to boycott South Dakota. The NCAA wouldve done that with no hesitation and that wouldve really hurt South Dakota. Then when you look at Florida, there was no chance in hell the NCAA would try and boycott Florida with all of their big time college programs.

But again I dont think she handled it well. I dont think she has handled anything well since how she handled COVID. Her on Tucker was a disaster and it was clear she wasnt ready for a bigger stage and the constant spotlight on her. And I think she has just made panicked decisions since. But I dont think she is a RINO.

I like her better as a Cowgirl. She was great during COVID but there are more important things

This is how every state and governor should treat Christopher Columbus.

 

[IdaCat]

I like her better as a Cowgirl. She was great during COVID but there is more important things

This is how every state and governor should treat Christopher Columbus.

I like it at face value.

But I like it even more knowing that it makes all the far left nutjobs heads explode.

 

[screwduke1]

Food prices reach highest level in a decade

U.S. food companies are raising prices to offset increased costs.

justthenews.com

 

[AustinTXCat]

You have to be pretty brain dead to think wearing a hat is patriotism. Schools don't let you wear hats, get the **** over it snowflake.

 

[duke4life831]

I like her better as a Cowgirl. She was great during COVID but there is more important things

This is how every state and governor should treat Christopher Columbus.

Oh I agree 100%. Again Im just trying to put some context on some of her recent blunders. Its not always a black and white thing. With that Trans bill thing, I saw a lot of people say things like "DeSantis did it, Noem easily couldve done it". That was a much easier bill for DeSantis to sign than Noem.

I kind of get her reasoning on why she didnt sign that bill. But with that said, she didnt handle the criticism of it well at all. And I think from there on she has just made panicked dumb move after panicked dumb move (including this Columbus thing). With that said, I dont think she is anywhere close to as bad as many other Republican Governors.

Also any Republican Governor compared to DeSantis is going to look like crap if we are being honest haha. That dude isnt just on his own tier, the gap between his tier and the next is huge. DeSantis is easily the biggest rock star of the Republican party at the moment not named Trump.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

I like it at face value.

But I like it even more knowing that it makes all the far left nutjobs heads explode.

She really gets under their skin doesn't she? I love every bit of that.

 

[trueblujr2]

Food prices reach highest level in a decade

U.S. food companies are raising prices to offset increased costs.

justthenews.com

LET"S GO BRANDON!!!