POLITICAL THREAD

[YourPublicEnemy]

In fear of being ostracized, I'd bet a lot of the black community is silently pissed at Obamma

I mean, did any of their lives get better under Obama? Nope. You'd think at one point they would wake up and realize that Dems have given them nothing.

Also, blacks should be for protecting the border more than anyone considering it hurts their employment more than anyone else.

As for the polls, impossible to know due to the shadiness of the media and the oversampling of Dems. The negative ads don't tend to work compared to positive ones. What can Hillary run on? Seriously? Her being a woman? She hasn't accomplished a damn thing as a career politician except for sponsorsing three bills where two were naming something after someone and making one a historic site. That's it. She has lined her pockets and achieved nothing.

People want to talk about Trump failures or whatever but even one person working at Trump Tower is more jobs than Hillary ever created.

 

[krazykats]

Willy it's like there everywhere. Everywhere he goes he draws 10-20-30 thousand people with hundreds outside.....

I won't say if he losses it's rigged but I knew in 08 the movement obama made was taking over as I do Trumps movement.

I just don't believe it like I didn't believe we would ever elect a black president. I liked obama in 08 TBH because that dude was charismatic and could well ice to an Eskimo.

In 12 I liked Romney for his business experience much like why I like Trump......but I still do not believe Donald f'n Trump is going to be president!

If it happens these two parties should be pretty damned ashamed of themselves and we better hope he can figure it out on the job or does what he says and delegates everything except banging Melanie in the WH.

 

[KopiKat]

The dearth of polling in Texas is not at all analogous to what's been measured in PA.

I do like how everyone still shot the messenger, though. Good job! Good effort!

that wasn't my intention. more of a devil's advocate - that if either of us had observed that sort of thing from other posters, as we have (and not just with in the "style" of how polling data are presented), we would have pointed out (as we both have) not just that irregularity but also how that irregularity can contribute to diminished quality - credibility sort of thing.

as for my own style, full of cynicism 24-7, vomitus humor, then serious, you'll never read me pander to posters who I do take very seriously, other than to state that I don't do that sort of thing when replying to those who I do.

As for how data in the two states compare (and I suppose that means an overall reliability?) . . . I'll take your word for that. Myself, I think the both outcomes are "clear". However, I do fear the Lone Star state has a future political leaning that will mirror the other big state eventually, and why not? The two have so much in common, or growing more in common, by industry, agriculture, institutions, crime, penal systems, social and recreational interests, multiple big cities and, yes, Hispanic and other minority population.

 

[krazykats]

I mean, did any of their lives get better under Obama? Nope. You'd think at one point they would wake up and realize that Dems have given them nothing.

Also, blacks should be for protecting the border more than anyone considering it hurts their employment more than anyone else.
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White people need to stop with this. Percentages are bad for under 30, but the blacks that were working have absolutely done good. The issue was he was going to encourage blacks that hard work was worth it and fix black family households......

Instead he has them in a war with the police. That's the issue right now! But the ones willing to work are not in bad shape. As a matter of fact a lot have became small business owners if you do some research you'd see that.

But that under 30 group is just lost right now......and that is bad for blacks but it isn't a whole lot better for whites either.

At that age and inexperience if you don't want to do hard manual labor or work in restaurants you don't have many choices.

 

[KopiKat]

White people need to stop with this.

telling people what they need to do on the basis of their race = racism

 

[krazykats]

What? That is just stupid man.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

Nation is losing its moral compass.

And yet you vote for Trump...excuse me while I puke.

 

[krazykats]

And yet you vote for Trump...excuse me while I puke.

What is so good about the alternative?

 

[stevo51]

Nation is losing its moral compass.

Losing???????? Pretty sure the compass has been lost for a while

 

[KopiKat]

What? That is just stupid man.

refer you to my previous post this pg., reply to jamo, first 2 or 3 lines (phrases) in middle paragraph.

 

[Anthony B]

So Crooked Hilary dumps her own shit in the streets of GA and still thinks she has a chance to win there? Ha Ha, I think not.

 

[the nail at the foul line]

From Drudge, yeah Trump scares me. This person is psycho.

 

[warrior-cat]

And yet you vote for Trump...excuse me while I puke.

Don't know really, may not vote at all. Rather sick and tired of the whole thing. Both are bad but, Hillary is worse, more of the same.

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

Don't know really, may not vote at all. Rather sick and tired of the whole thing. Both are bad but, Hillary is worse, more of the same.

Even if you go to only vote for the town dog catcher, go vote. Don't skip it.

 

[moe_schmoe]

http://dennismichaellynch.com/cases-voter-fraud-florida/

 

[KyFaninNC]

http://dennismichaellynch.com/cases-voter-fraud-florida/

There is no voter fraud according to Dems and there lemmings, the media.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Losing???????? Pretty sure the compass has been lost for a while

I enjoy the narrative of "You have to drop your values" in order to win, which is true but it's pathetic to do so. Can anyone argue that what is accepted as "okay" today is anywhere close to being normal/better than the time when traditional values (or close to it) were accepted?

I'm not some delusional hill jack that thinks everything is a sin or any of that but today is so messed up.

We now have to teach that there are more than two genders, teach gay history in elementary schools, can't decide what restroom to use, teach to be apologists for Islam while hostile toward Christianity, everyone is constantly offended, now teach "white guilt" and"white privilege" and have "slut walks" and our government politicians back a group like BLM while condemning cops.

We're about to elect a politician that is massively corrupt as well and people excuse it.

It's bizarro world.

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

Don't know really, may not vote at all. Rather sick and tired of the whole thing. Both are bad but, Hillary is worse, more of the same.

At least Trump isn't going to stack the court with people who hate guns nor does he want to flood us with Muslims.

Those are two reasons to easily vote for him.

 

[qwesley]

via WSJ, what a cesspool.

The political organization of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, an influential Democrat with longstanding ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, gave nearly $500,000 to the election campaign of the wife of an official at the Federal Bureau of Investigation who later helped oversee the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email use.

Campaign finance records show Mr. McAuliffe’s political-action committee donated $467,500 to the 2015 state Senate campaign of Dr. Jill McCabe, who is married to Andrew McCabe, now the deputy director of the FBI.

The Virginia Democratic Party, over which Mr. McAuliffe exerts considerable control, donated an additional $207,788 worth of support to Dr. McCabe’s campaign in the form of mailers, according to the records. That adds up to slightly more than $675,000 to her candidacy from entities either directly under Mr. McAuliffe’s control or strongly influenced by him. The figure represents more than a third of all the campaign funds Dr. McCabe raised in the effort.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Early voting starts here in Austin tomorrow. I hope to vote either Tuesday or Wednesday of this week.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Don't shoot the messenger:

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On the other hand, I believe it. We heard on the news this is a very close race here in TX.

 

[moe_schmoe]

 

[jamo0001]

that wasn't my intention. more of a devil's advocate - that if either of us had observed that sort of thing from other posters, as we have (and not just with in the "style" of how polling data are presented), we would have pointed out (as we both have) not just that irregularity but also how that irregularity can contribute to diminished quality - credibility sort of thing.

as for my own style, full of cynicism 24-7, vomitus humor, then serious, you'll never read me pander to posters who I do take very seriously, other than to state that I don't do that sort of thing when replying to those who I do.

As for how data in the two states compare (and I suppose that means an overall reliability?) . . . I'll take your word for that. Myself, I think the both outcomes are "clear". However, I do fear the Lone Star state has a future political leaning that will mirror the other big state eventually, and why not? The two have so much in common, or growing more in common, by industry, agriculture, institutions, crime, penal systems, social and recreational interests, multiple big cities and, yes, Hispanic and other minority population.

Not saying you, in particular, did. Just a predictable reaction from the thread. The point of posting it (without even editorializing it) in the first place was to see whether those who had been singing praise for RCP averages when it came to the pre-first debate numbers in PA would immediately write off the TX RCP average. Shockingly, they did.

And yeah, GOP operatives in TX have long feared it becoming the next Virginia: Conservative working-class whites not reproducing at the rates of minorities, most of the transplants moving in are socially liberal whites, etc. It's not purple yet by any means, but we're kinda seeing flashes of what's to come (due to Trump's limited appeal to Hispanics and Independents).


TL;DR: RCP averages are merely one data point, just as they always were. And people have no problem cherry-picking that data point when it suits them.

 

[jamo0001]

via WSJ, what a cesspool.

The political organization of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, an influential Democrat with longstanding ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, gave nearly $500,000 to the election campaign of the wife of an official at the Federal Bureau of Investigation who later helped oversee the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email use.

Campaign finance records show Mr. McAuliffe’s political-action committee donated $467,500 to the 2015 state Senate campaign of Dr. Jill McCabe, who is married to Andrew McCabe, now the deputy director of the FBI.

The Virginia Democratic Party, over which Mr. McAuliffe exerts considerable control, donated an additional $207,788 worth of support to Dr. McCabe’s campaign in the form of mailers, according to the records. That adds up to slightly more than $675,000 to her candidacy from entities either directly under Mr. McAuliffe’s control or strongly influenced by him. The figure represents more than a third of all the campaign funds Dr. McCabe raised in the effort.

Was hoping this was getting posted. Yet another example of the biggest bombs not coming from Wikileaks, but from traditional investigative journalists.

This is the October surprise everybody was hoping for. Pray to heaven that Trump actually lets it blossom.

 

[moe_schmoe]

This dude should just give it up.

 

[AustinTXCat]

Hey, @AustinTXCat, OT, but have you ever been to Franklin's bbq? Asking b/c I have a few days to kill on my trip, & was wondering if it was worth a two - three days detour to go & check it out?

Not yet. I may try hitting it one day next February. I hear there are long lines at Franklin's, so please arrive early. They are closed Monday's. Lunch is served beginning at 11 AM.

Good luck. Hope you have a good trip.

 

[Anthony B]

This dude should just give it up.

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That's the guy who gave Trump a 4% chance of winning the Republican Primary. Looks like he hasn't learned much from his last gaff.

 

[moe_schmoe]

This guy could be onto something regarding the polls, but after reading the emails it kind of sounds like they're talking about internals.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...em-playbook-rigging-polls-through-oversamples

 

[YourPublicEnemy]

This dude should just give it up.

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Seriously, even if nothing got done for four years, how great would it be to watch the media look like total morons? I'd give anything to see them try to backpedal their BS and wonder "What happened?"

People need to get rid of these people. They no longer serve the public.

 

[moe_schmoe]

via WSJ, what a cesspool.

The political organization of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, an influential Democrat with longstanding ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton, gave nearly $500,000 to the election campaign of the wife of an official at the Federal Bureau of Investigation who later helped oversee the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s email use.

Campaign finance records show Mr. McAuliffe’s political-action committee donated $467,500 to the 2015 state Senate campaign of Dr. Jill McCabe, who is married to Andrew McCabe, now the deputy director of the FBI.

The Virginia Democratic Party, over which Mr. McAuliffe exerts considerable control, donated an additional $207,788 worth of support to Dr. McCabe’s campaign in the form of mailers, according to the records. That adds up to slightly more than $675,000 to her candidacy from entities either directly under Mr. McAuliffe’s control or strongly influenced by him. The figure represents more than a third of all the campaign funds Dr. McCabe raised in the effort.

Didn't it come out that Comey had ties to the CF as well?

 

[moe_schmoe]

Rosie O'Donnell vs. Roseanne Barr cage match to decide the presidency?

 

[jamo0001]

Jeeeezus, she's a STATE senate candidate.

This could be going places.

 

[cardkilla]

There is no one more smug than an elitist leftist. I've been arguing with this guy who keeps identifying himself and Dem voters as "college educated." He thinks it gives him moral high ground (I'm college educated as well but don't find it relevant to anything) or insight into these topics.

They also have the highest number of high school dropouts and felons voting for them. They like to champion themselves as intellectuals but the majority of their base are retarded college kids, gov't dependent blacks and Latinos, SJW psychos & the leftist elite.

Just hate that garbage. They're always smug and in actuality, pretty racist, which makes it easy for them to pander and manipulate these people when they need votes.

yup all of those blacks and latinos are on gov't assistance and live in ghettos. Maybe you should get out more. Maybe it's because i'm a 'leftist elite' but the latino and black people I know don't fall into any of your stereotype categories. But I know plenty of white people getting gov't assistance. Mostly people I still know from high school. And probably all voting for DT.

 

[KopiKat]

Not saying you, in particular, did. Just a predictable reaction from the thread. The point of posting it (without even editorializing it) in the first place was to see whether those who had been singing praise for RCP averages when it came to the pre-first debate numbers in PA would immediately write off the TX RCP average. Shockingly, they did.

And yeah, GOP operatives in TX have long feared it becoming the next Virginia: Conservative working-class whites not reproducing at the rates of minorities, most of the transplants moving in are socially liberal whites, etc. It's not purple yet by any means, but we're kinda seeing flashes of what's to come (due to Trump's limited appeal to Hispanics and Independents).


TL;DR: RCP averages are merely one data point, just as they always were. And people have no problem cherry-picking that data point when it suits them.

good experiment on your part then. no prob. sorry if I eff'd it up. you might have gotten some mileage out of that one.

GOP "operatives" have a right to be concerned about the political landscape in TX. My family owns land in parts of East Texas. Mostly in what is District 1. This is really the only district in the eastern 1/2 of that state that they haven't figured out how to rig with some awkward, elongated reach to an urban area. And everybody knows what that eventually means when those urban centers expand and as, to use the way I like to put it (equal, yet opposite of yours), minorities reproduce at impressive rates that exceed conservative working class whites.

 

[From-the-stands]

http://www.investors.com/politics/t...s-as-if-the-race-is-already-won-ibdtipp-poll/

Trump is still leading in the IBD poll, the LA Times poll, Rasmussen, and USA Wide polling.

 

[KopiKat]

. . . blacks and latinos are on gov't assistance and live in ghettos. Maybe you should get out more. Maybe it's because i'm a 'leftist elite' but the latino and black people I know don't fall into any of your stereotype categories. But I know plenty of white people getting gov't assistance. Mostly people I still know from high school. And probably all voting for DT.

It is very interesting that you would tell another person that they should get out more, and then make comments to indicate that most of the people you know are from high school.

 

[screwduke1]

I'd nail Huma, she is sexy as hell to me.

I agree. I don't find many liberal women hot, but shes an exception.

 

[screwduke1]

 

[screwduke1]

The 3 most accurate polls from 12 all have Trump ahead. While some MSM polls have Hillary up 12.
With what we've seen and read it's easy to understand what's happening.

DemExit

 

[KopiKat]

more from O'keefe being promised for tomorrow.