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This thread is from your sunshine pumping crew to slam those who have yet to buy the greatness of CMS.

This thread was intended to push CMS over Leach because of one game.

This thread focused on ONE game, the LAST game Leach coached.

I simply compared the last games of both teams.

And you need to stop saying it is sad that discussions are this and that and look at your last 2 dozen posts. You instigate more crap rather than have a discussion.

Why you people think that complaining about obvious deficiencies, and ones that should not be difficult to correct, makes us less fans than you people is beyond me.

You guys have your level expectations and others have their own. The real issue is that you guys cannot discuss these without slamming posters who dont agree.
Unreal...agree
 
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Thanks for admitting that your filter prohibits you from seeing what is actually being said here. Your post is like that of a paranoid schizophrenic who cannot see that things can be said that are not about him.

I also realize that you think others post crap and others are snarky. See comment above for why that might be.



You have become awful over the years. Hope it wasnt something tragic that caused it....
 
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This might be the dumbest post in the history of the board. Think about that for a minute.

Because a Stoops cheerleader says so? Look at his record, where he’s won and who he has won with. And don’t give me this SEC crap. Sans Alabama it’s been down for several years.
 
I thought his coaching would over come all of that?

He’s good - light years better than what we have. But MSU would challenge UGA for the east this year. They are an excellent team - not like UT, UF, etc.

Hard to compete with those teams not full strength.
 
He’s good - light years better than what we have. But MSU would challenge UGA for the east this year. They are an excellent team - not like UT, UF, etc.

Hard to compete with those teams not full strength.

NO UGA would not be challenged by MSU

UK played not at full strength from the beginning of the season.

Mossier lost, Haynes playing after losing what 30 lbs from diabetes?

Baker lost for entire year....am I missing anyone else?

SJ playing with a bad shoulder (maybe both) for much of the season, sacrifices his body to win the UT game landing on that shoulder.
 
NO UGA would not be challenged by MSU

UK played not at full strength from the beginning of the season.

Mossier lost, Haynes playing after losing what 30 lbs from diabetes?

Baker lost for entire year....am I missing anyone else?

SJ playing with a bad shoulder (maybe both) for much of the season, sacrifices his body to win the UT game landing on that shoulder.



Apparently SJ played with 2 bad shoulders.

But why?
 
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Here is my thing with Leach. He just finished his 6th season at WSU and it’s possible he will finish the season unranked for the 6th time. I think he’s a decent coach, but some on here get carried away.

Posters talk about wanting to compete at the highest level, yet want a coach that can’t even finish in the Top 25. I just don’t think he’s nearly as good as some say he is. Again, decent coach, but he’s the guy we are shooting for to take our program to the next level?

Guy has won 9 regular season games at WSU twice and 5 times total as a BCS HC at a garbage team in a good conference. He's also onw 11 ame once and was contending for the BCS National Championship. Guy is light years ahead of what we have and is a specialist in taking bad teams to new heights in good conferences.

That's the alure.
 
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NO UGA would not be challenged by MSU

UK played not at full strength from the beginning of the season.

Mossier lost, Haynes playing after losing what 30 lbs from diabetes?

Baker lost for entire year....am I missing anyone else?

SJ playing with a bad shoulder (maybe both) for much of the season, sacrifices his body to win the UT game landing on that shoulder.

That was at the beginning of the year sans the "supposed" SJ situation. He's a good recruiter - that's the only thing he's shown he's solid at. Where's that quality depth 5 years in?

Can you point to a reliable article talking about SJ? I've heard the scuttlebutt but it's hard tell truth from fact with Stoops cheerleaders.
 
Guy has won 9 regular season games at WSU twice and 5 times total as a BCS HC at a garbage team in a garbage conference. He's also onw 11 ame once and was contending for the BCS National Championship. Guy is light years ahead of what we have and is a specialist in taking bad teams to new heights in good conferences.

That's the alure.



And he wanted to coach here.

It is not some crazy unrealistic desire fans want, it was actually a possibility.

I’ve met Mike several times, don’t know him like I did other members of Mumme and Guys staff but I like him personally.
 
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He’s good - light years better than what we have.
This bears repeating here. In the last several months, head coaching jobs have been opponent at Florida, Florida State, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon, and Arizona State. Out of all these P5 schools, only 1 (Tennessee) had any interest in Mike Leach - and only as a third tier after being turned down by their top candidates - and their athletics director was immediately and summarily fired to keep him from hiring Leach. The marketplace speaks volumes.
 
And he wanted to coach here.

It is not some crazy unrealistic desire fans want, it was actually a possibility.

I’ve met Mike several times, don’t know him like I did other members of Mumme and Guys staff but I like him personally.

The Einsteins on this board are only either too proud or not smart enough to realize this. They are trying to spin it like anyone who likes Stoops thinks he's Saban. It's just the fact that he's the one attainable coach who has a track record of winning at garbage programs in good conferences.
 
Personal opinion only, I think he still gave us the best chance to win.

Unless a season ending type injury, players play hurt there is no player who isn't banged up somewhat.


I don’t disagree. But QB?

We averaged what 100 yds and .3 TDs per game the last 6?

What does this say about our depth and playeR development at that position.
 
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This bears repeating here. In the last several months, head coaching jobs have been opponent at Florida, Florida State, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon, and Arizona State. Out of all these P5 schools, only 1 (Tennessee) had any interest in Mike Leach - and only as a third tier after being turned down by their top candidates - and their athletics director was immediately and summarily fired to keep him from hiring Leach. The marketplace speaks volumes.

Whoops, someone dares offer objective evidence.
 
That was at the beginning of the year sans the "supposed" SJ situation. He's a good recruiter - that's the only thing he's shown he's solid at. Where's that quality depth 5 years in?

Can you point to a reliable article talking about SJ? I've heard the scuttlebutt but it's hard tell truth from fact with Stoops cheerleaders.

Yes the entire season missing key players, so I guess the depth was there.

Not going to take the time to look up an article regarding SJ.
 
This bears repeating here. In the last several months, head coaching jobs have been opponent at Florida, Florida State, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon, and Arizona State. Out of all these P5 schools, only 1 (Tennessee) had any interest in Mike Leach - and only as a third tier after being turned down by their top candidates - and their athletics director was immediately and summarily fired to keep him from hiring Leach. The marketplace speaks volumes.

The AD at UT was fired over the former Rutgers hire. Had nothing to do with Leach but keep preaching that because it blows up your entire premise. Not to mention, you don't know who reached out to Leach.

Most of those jobs either already had their man or were jobs that could do better than UK. We are UK. We have to take the few good options we have.
 
This bears repeating here. In the last several months, head coaching jobs have been opponent at Florida, Florida State, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Nebraska, UCLA, Oregon, and Arizona State. Out of all these P5 schools, only 1 (Tennessee) had any interest in Mike Leach - and only as a third tier after being turned down by their top candidates - and their athletics director was immediately and summarily fired to keep him from hiring Leach. The marketplace speaks volumes.


The same jobs Stoops turned down?

Leach has a much more proven track record than Stoops, you guys can’t see that then that’s on you.

It doesn’t make Leach another Saban by any means.

It just means as of TODAY Leach is the more proven coach with a tremendously better offense and many years a better defense.

We should all hope CMS experiences the same level of success that Leach has.
 
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Whoops, someone dares offer objective evidence.
I am not a Stoops critic or a Stoops advocate. I just want bowl games, better classes, year over year program improvement. But someone should offer actual facts about the coaching marketplace, not the contrived "facts" (LOL!) we always seem to get from the crybabies who don't understand the difference between 2-10 and 7-5.
 
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Yes the entire season missing key players, so I guess the depth was there.

Not going to take the time to look up an article regarding SJ.

You guys makes the assertion, show me the evidence. If not, I'll take it as sunshine propanda.

WSU had other injuries also. That's FB. The point is, they lost these guys right before their bowl game. Had to combat that unless you recruit like Stoops supposedly does.
 
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The same jobs Stoops turned down?

Leach has a much more proven track record than Stoops, you guys can’t see that then that’s on you.

It doesn’t make Leach another Saban by any means.

It just means as of TODAY Leach is the more proven coach with a tremendously better offense and many years a better defense.

We should all hope CMS experiences the same level of success that Leach has.
As you wish. You are expressing an opinion. Athletics directors get paid or fired for the results of their decisions. They have skin in the game. You do not. They didn't want Mike Leach this year. The marketplace speaks volumes.
 
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As you wish. You are expressing an opinion. Athletics directors get paid or fired for the results of their decisions. They have skin in the game. You do not. They didn't want Mike Leach this year. The marketplace speaks volumes.

As are you in regard to UT's AD. Actually, you are lying as it blows up your whole premise. But what's new with the sunshine pumpers?
 
You guys makes the assertion, show me the evidence. If not, I'll take it as sunshine propanda.

WSU had other injuries also. That's FB. The point is, they lost these guys right before their bowl game. Had to combat that unless you recruit like Stoops supposedly does.

You can take it how ever you want.

I wasn't pumping sunshine, I never said Stoops was perfect and I don't think he would either.

You're the one making excuses for injuries, I simply pointed out we lost key players for the entire year not one game.

Leach had a month to prepare without those hurt. Did he not build depth ?
 
As you wish. You are expressing an opinion. Athletics directors get paid or fired for the results of their decisions. They have skin in the game. You do not. They didn't want Mike Leach this year. The marketplace speaks volumes.



And they didn’t want Stoops either.

So....?

Come to think of it this the only HC category these guys are equal in... neither were offered a job by the schools you mentioned.

I guess you can count that as a win for Stoops....
 
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You can take it how ever you want.

I wasn't pumping sunshine, I never said Stoops was perfect and I don't think he would either.

You're the one making excuses for injuries, I simply pointed out we lost key players for the entire year not one game.

Leach had a month to prepare without those hurt. Did he not build depth ?

Didn't mean to lump you in with the pumpers but can you objectively see the difference in losing your SR QB, who is the all time passing leader in the Pac 12 and top 2 receiving targets right before your bowl game vs injuries that happen at the beginning of the year?

Healthy or unhealthy SJ, the offense has been bad all year - even before the supposed shoulder injuries.
 
The AD at UT was fired over the former Rutgers hire. Had nothing to do with Leach but keep preaching that because it blows up your entire premise. Not to mention, you don't know who reached out to Leach.

Most of those jobs either already had their man or were jobs that could do better than UK. We are UK. We have to take the few good options we have.

It appears RonE does not understand Blue Decade’s “entire premise.” LOL

But, Dr. Pepper’s intention here is clear. It has little to do with Leach.
 
And they didn’t want Stoops either.

So....?

Come to think of it this the only HC category these guys are equal in... neither were offered a job by the schools you mentioned.

I guess you can count that as a win for Stoops....

But, but, but - the market place; other than UT, didn't want him, Brian. That means he can't be a better option than Stoops because we're UK and have the same options as FSU and UF. ;)
 
You guys makes the assertion, show me the evidence. If not, I'll take it as sunshine propanda. WSU had other injuries also. That's FB.

So. Injuries limited Leach's options for WSU's bowl? If UK loses today, will you come back and discuss the impact of injuries to Mosier, Baker, Conrad plus Haynes' illness on Stoops' options? I am inclined to doubt that, because your mind is already made up, and that means you will not change it. But if Leach is such a great coach, how come no other P5 school hired him this year, when 11 P5 head coaching jobs were open? With 11 jobs open, you would think someone would want Leach if he is as good as you say.
 
Didn't mean to lump you in with the pumpers but can you objectively see the difference in losing your SR QB, who is the all time passing leader in the Pac 12 and top 2 receiving targets right before your bowl game vs injuries that happen at the beginning of the year?

Healthy or unhealthy SJ, the offense has been bad all year - even before the supposed shoulder injuries.

Absolutely it was a MAJOR to lose them no doubt.
 
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