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Gary Parrish is an idiot.

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Say what you want about Cal, about how the season has gone, and that’s fine. But dropping Auburn one spot to 14 after losing at home by 11 to a team, THEN dropping the team that spanked them by two spots is absolutely moronic. Just subjectively, fandom aside, that makes zero sense.

 
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UConn missed 13 of the 16 3-pointers it attempted in Tuesday's 85-66 loss at Creighton. The Huskies' next game is Saturday against Villanova. UConn missed 13 of the 16 3-pointers it attempted in Tuesday's 85-66 loss at Creighton. The Huskies' next game is Saturday against Villanova.

He was seeing double.
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.
that is a great point, would like see us string a few good games together before I restore my faith in this team, that being said beating Auburn at home was a good start.
 
Say what you want about Cal, about how the season has gone, and that’s fine. But dropping Auburn one spot to 14 after losing at home by 11 to a team, THEN dropping the team that spanked them by two spots is absolutely moronic. Just subjectively, fandom aside, that makes zero sense.

I like knowing that we ruined his weekend. Hilarious!
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.

He had Kentucky at #22 two days, then dropped them to #24 after BYU and Utah St won yesterday. Those wins apparently allowed them to jump 5-6 teams in his poll.
 
When you lose four games at home, you have no reason to complain about rankings.

We've looked horrible most of the season. Our ranking deserves to be horrible UNTIL we show some consistency.
 
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He had Kentucky at #22 two days, then dropped them to #24 after BYU and Utah St won yesterday. Those wins apparently allowed them to jump 5-6 teams in his poll.
Maybe he felt he got it wrong last week and corrected himself? I don’t know the reason and honestly don’t care. There is ZERO difference between 22 and 24 when the team is average at best.

Had he dropped a team from 1 to 3 after winning two games, that would be worth talking about. Teams in the 20s range are pretty interchangeable.
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.
True. If you look at like standings. We are about where appearances put us.

If you want it to be actually rankings then it's way off.
 
When you lose four games at home, you have no reason to complain about rankings.

We've looked horrible most of the season. Our ranking deserves to be horrible UNTIL we show some consistency.
This is just factually not true. It is VERY reasonable to point out that beating a top 15 team, at their place, when we were massive dogs, is at very minimum not worthy of being lowered. There is no way 2 teams below us had more impressive wins/overall resumes that would prompt us being jumped after a 2-0 week. It just doesn't make sense.

No one is complaining we aren't top 10, or that our slot is unfair, but when you watch voters do shit like this, it absolutely is fair to wonder.
 
Say what you want about Cal, about how the season has gone, and that’s fine. But dropping Auburn one spot to 14 after losing at home by 11 to a team, THEN dropping the team that spanked them by two spots is absolutely moronic. Just subjectively, fandom aside, that makes zero sense.

If Parrish is indeed an "idiot", it's up to this UK team to prove him to be just that. Up to this point in the season, UK has been too inconsistent, including Cal's coaching issues, to get upset with something this inconsequential. I would say that most of these national pundits are tired of carrying water for this UK team and program as publically backing the Cats has become risky business. Too many losses to clearly inferior teams. Logic over emotion is always the better way here. Nothing matters now except how they finish the season ... it's up to them, as long as Cal doesn't screw it up ... something he's very capable of doing.
 
Winning that game at Auburn is one of the more impressive wins in Cal's coaching tenure at UK. Considering the circumstances and way this season has gone, it was probably a bit more impressive. Auburn is a tough place to win.
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.

Ok, whatever. Point is dropping any team after handily beating a higher ranked opponent on the road is moronic .
 
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I think Parrish has been particularly bearish with Kentucky this year. Probably for good reason based on the past 3-4 seasons. With that said, Kentucky has very few wins of note to this point in the season. I don't think we can be too upset where anyone decides to rank this team. They haven't earned the right to argue about their rankings.
 
It defies logic to drop a team 2 spots after going 2-0 on the week with one of the best wins of the season. It's really not even about what Kentucky should or should not be ranked. It's the total logical failure that has to happen to do this that bothers people.

BYU and Utah State were both unranked. BYU had a very good win vs Baylor. It aint better than Kentucky's win @ Auburn. Utah State had a good win vs SDSU. Still not better than Kentucky's win @ Auburn. So, I don't understand how you jump those 2 teams over Kentucky.

And while maybe you think those teams are better on the season--you shared your thoughts on them during last week's rankings. It just defies logic.
 
I think Parrish has been particularly bearish with Kentucky this year. Probably for good reason based on the past 3-4 seasons. With that said, Kentucky has very few wins of note to this point in the season. I don't think we can be too upset where anyone decides to rank this team. They haven't earned the right to argue about their rankings.
I don't care if he ranks us at all.

There's just not reasoning or logic to drop a team 2 spots after going 2-0 and having one of the stronger wins on the season.
 
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Yes, he is stupid. But it's not so simple as "they dropped only 1 spot, and we beat them but we dropped 2 spots".

For example, say he had the 3-4 teams behind them (last time) not even close to them, while the teams closely behind us had an even more impressive win.
But that said, who did jump us causing us to fall from his 22 to 25, and what did they do to do that?
- Utah St beat (at Home) then 16 SD St by 5pts, going from Not Ranked to 19 (just WOW!)
- BYU beat (at Home) then 5 Baylor by 7pts, going from Not Ranked to 21
- in comparison UK beat (Away) then 13 Auburn by 11pts
The BYU one, maybe, is justifiable, although I wouldn't agree with it.
The Utah St one, is not defenseable. We beat a higher rated team, by more points, in a more challenging place (Away vs Home), and in his last poll we were ahead of them.

That he had and still has Florida one spot ahead of us makes no sense either. It's an easy comparson.
- split with each other, both winning Away
- same record 18-7
- same conference record 8-4
- nearly same conference losses (to each other, to UT, to TAMU, difference is we lost at USC, they lost at Ole Miss)
- non-conf losses are comparable, maybe slight edge to Florida: we lost to 10 KU, Gonzaga (H), and UNCW (H), Florida lost to 11 Baylor, @ WF, & UVA
- best non-conf wins we are much better: we beat 8 UNC, they beat middle-of-pack FSU
So we have nearly identical resumes, EXCEPT for our UNC win vs their FSU win.
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.
Not by dropping a team who went on the road and beat the team ahead of them. Season has NOTHING to do with the change AFTER UK spanked Auburn. AT Auburn. Anyone with a brain would push the team UP, not DOWN for beating a higher ranked team on the road. Quad 1 victories are the MOST important factor in raising a team. Or if they had lost to a team below them dropping them. But he dropped them for winning a quad 1 game. Take your hate for Cal out of it and look at facts. OK by your thinking, take the UNCW loss out and count it as an OUTLIER. because the rest of the losses are quad 1 or 2. We only have ONE bad loss on the resume, UNCW, to me with only ONE quad 3 loss and no quad 4 losses, it qualifies as an outlier. But beating UNC, Florida, and Auburn are not outliers, they are upper quad tier wins. We only have ONE bottom tier loss. Chalk it up as a bad night, it happens.
@ A&M - not a bad loss, they are tough at home (lost in OT)
@ SC - quad 1 loss
UT - quad 1 loss (UT is a top 2 seed)
Kansas - quad 1 loss (Kansas is a top 2 seed) close game
Florida - quad 2, maybe 1 when all is said and done (in OT) and we beat them also.
Gonzaga - quad 2, maybe bumps to a 1. Once again, close game, very close.

We got dominated by SC and UT, but both are quad 1 losses. The rest of the games ALL was winnable. Quit trying too hard, your agenda is shining thru.
 
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Parrish a a butt hurt Memphis fan still pissed that Cal left town. That explains a lot of his 'methodology.'
 
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Yes, he is stupid. But it's not so simple as "they dropped only 1 spot, and we beat them but we dropped 2 spots".

For example, say he had the 3-4 teams behind them (last time) not even close to them, while the teams closely behind us had an even more impressive win.
But that said, who did jump us causing us to fall from his 22 to 25, and what did they do to do that?
- Utah St beat (at Home) then 16 SD St by 5pts, going from Not Ranked to 19 (just WOW!)
- BYU beat (at Home) then 5 Baylor by 7pts, going from Not Ranked to 21
- in comparison UK beat (Away) then 13 Auburn by 11pts
The BYU one, maybe, is justifiable, although I wouldn't agree with it.
The Utah St one, is not defenseable. We beat a higher rated team, by more points, in a more challenging place (Away vs Home), and in his last poll we were ahead of them.

That he had and still has Florida one spot ahead of us makes no sense either. It's an easy comparson.
- split with each other, both winning Away
- same record 18-7
- same conference record 8-4
- nearly same conference losses (to each other, to UT, to TAMU, difference is we lost at USC, they lost at Ole Miss)
- non-conf losses are comparable, maybe slight edge to Florida: we lost to 10 KU, Gonzaga (H), and UNCW (H), Florida lost to 11 Baylor, @ WF, & UVA
- best non-conf wins we are much better: we beat 8 UNC, they beat middle-of-pack FSU
So we have nearly identical resumes, EXCEPT for our UNC win vs their FSU win.
Can't disagree with any of this. Solid logic.
 
From the article:

UConn missed 13 of the 16 3-pointers it attempted in Tuesday's 85-66 loss at Creighton. The Huskies' next game is Saturday against Villanova. UConn missed 13 of the 16 3-pointers it attempted in Tuesday's 85-66 loss at Creighton. The Huskies' next game is Saturday against Villanova.

He was seeing double.
It’s why AI will have his job soon
 
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I have been off the Cal train for a while. But the fans who are defending Parrish and his rankings by pointing out Kentucky’s flaws are as bad as the one guy who is in Cal’s family that posts here on every thread.


There is absolute no justification for the ranking of Gary parish outside of personal bias with the week UK just had.


Can’t believe this is something the cal love cult and cal hate cult aren’t even able to agree on.
 
UK fans have no place to argue anyone who has us ranked low. Our coach has brought this program here and the rage continues to be misdirected
 
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I have been off the Cal train for a while. But the fans who are defending Parrish and his rankings by pointing out Kentucky’s flaws are as bad as the one guy who is in Cal’s family that posts here on every thread.


There is absolute no justification for the ranking of Gary parish outside of personal bias with the week UK just had.


Can’t believe this is something the cal love cult and cal hate cult aren’t even able to agree on.
It’s his personal poll so he can show all the bias he wants. His poll is meaningless there no arguement against his bias because it’s mid Feb and we have 7 losses.. any poll that has us 15-25 well hell the other teams never matter. We’ve spent too much time watching and bitching about our neighbors crops that ours are dying.
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.
You are right but also don’t address the faulty logic the OP lays out. It objectively doesn’t make sense if this is supposed to be a power ranking.
 
It’s his personal poll so he can show all the bias he wants. His poll is meaningless there no arguement against his bias because it’s mid Feb and we have 7 losses.. any poll that has us 15-25 well hell the other teams never matter. We’ve spent too much time watching and bitching about our neighbors crops that ours are dying.
Or we can simultaneously be unhappy with the current state of our program while also pointing out really dumb logic by one of the more prominent college basketball writers
 
One loss can easily be an outlier just like one win can be an outlier. A season full of mediocrity defines a team. Anyone complaining about UKs low ranking anywhere is way out of touch with reality.
Exactly! One of the best to ever determine how a team will finish. “The Professor” says every team has a few games each season that it plays better than typical. He said Auburn was UK’s 3rd such game. He still has us as a 2nd round loss team and Auburn as an elite 8 team.
 
Say what you want about Cal, about how the season has gone, and that’s fine. But dropping Auburn one spot to 14 after losing at home by 11 to a team, THEN dropping the team that spanked them by two spots is absolutely moronic. Just subjectively, fandom aside, that makes zero sense.

Gary Parrish is a Memphis columnist who wants clicks. He has an obvious agenda and always has. He wants the exact type of reaction this post is giving him. That's how he makes money.
 
It’s his personal poll so he can show all the bias he wants. His poll is meaningless there no arguement against his bias because it’s mid Feb and we have 7 losses.. any poll that has us 15-25 well hell the other teams never matter. We’ve spent too much time watching and bitching about our neighbors crops that ours are dying.


Still doesn’t make it right. What’s the point of playing games if people decide based on their personal vendetta how good a team is regardless of actual results.

Kentucky has had some bad games but is no doubt playing better and that should be reflected.

In the end it will all sort itself out, or it won’t. Beating Texas an and m didn’t make any difference a few years ago. And they made dang sure to have 2014 40-0 hype team vs the actual team that could have gone 40-0.

Not sure the human element will ever be out of rankings and brackets.
 
The bad thing is that every time Parrish drops us and we get angry. He gets proven right because we lose the next game. May be a long night in Baton Rouge.
 
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UK fans have no place to argue anyone who has us ranked low. Our coach has brought this program here and the rage continues to be misdirected
I bet you hated our last win. You Nerd and that dumb ass jennings are so close minded and clouded by your ossessive jate with him you can even acknowledge when the team does well and tries to turn the corner. You dont believe what Parish did is correct or smart but it fits your agenda.
 
What difference does it make? A team ranked 22-24 is going nowhere in March,unless that changes the next few games.
 
I bet you hated our last win. You Nerd and that dumb ass jennings are so close minded and clouded by your ossessive jate with him you can even acknowledge when the team does well and tries to turn the corner. You dont believe what Parish did is correct or smart but it fits your agenda.
One game isn’t turning the corner. We are 4-4 over our last eight games.
 
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