I wasn't talking about you at all. The people I'm speaking about haven't Responded yet. You made an important correction.
These people:
There's already a thread on it HOW F'ing COULD YOU!
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I wasn't talking about you at all. The people I'm speaking about haven't Responded yet. You made an important correction.
These people:
There's already a thread on it HOW F'ing COULD YOU!
Yes, but your subject-verb agreement sucks.
Thank you!
Subject verb agreement.
Just had a flash back to 6th grade.
Marc Isenberg @marcisenberg 14m14 minutes ago
Marc Isenberg Retweeted Seth Greenberg
NCAA enforcement staffers talking to NBA execs and media continues to be a real problem. https://twitter.com/sethonhoops/status/653887575883649026…
Marc Isenberg added,
Seth Greenberg @SethOnHoops
Saw an anonymous NBA Executive making a comment on a college players potential eligibility. Really. Gotta love the "sources"
7:29 AM - 13 Oct 2015 · Details
Marc Isenberg Retweeted Seth Greenberg
NCAA enforcement staffers talking to NBA execs and media continues to be a real problem. https://twitter.com/sethonhoops/status/653887575883649026…
Marc Isenberg added,
Seth Greenberg @SethOnHoops
Saw an anonymous NBA Executive making a comment on a college players potential eligibility. Really. Gotta love the "sources"
7:29 AM - 13 Oct 2015 · Details
I'm confused here. Why would NBA execs be looking into Skal's situation anyway? He's not eligible to play in the league until after this season regardless, so what is the point?
Like I stated in another thread. Not sure the source is not biased and also not being truthful. I think the original Exec had his information changed to help the site...
So...am I reading into these tweets the wrong way, or were the two of them basically calling BS on the rumor in question?
Written by a drunken frat boy or a "drunk FAT boy?" I guess either would work. Not that there is any thing wrong with either.I'm not putting too much stock into this... looks like it was written by a drunken frat boy from Syracuse.
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Skal will play and not miss a game IMO. Neither the NCAA nor the hundreds of journalists out there to get UK have anything on Skal, only rumors about his handler. If they're going to punish Skal due to rumors then they better be ready for the floodgate that will follow. Rumor after rumor will be started on all top prospects across the country.
That's why these "sources" are being called into question. Unless a kid is on trial for a crime or something, NBA staffers probably couldn't care less about eligibility and wouldn't have much reason to look into Skal's situation heavily.
"Harry Giles's family has secret stashes of handler money in hidden places"
If Skal is ineligible over a rumor, I will bombard the NCAA everyday that Tatum and Giles took money from handlers until they are ruled ineligible at Duke. Even if I have to sneak down to the Giles and Tatum resident and plant money in a hole on their property.
Will also get the handlers and Giles and Tatum Family's DNA so I can rub on the money before I dig a spot for it on the family's land.
Wow, please don't tell me you're now relying on the $6500/month SALARY claim by Karakas and Pete Thamel.
You know who disagrees with you? The NCAA.
Believe me, if Kanter had actually received such a salary for playing basketball, then it would have been an open and shut case. The NCAA's investigation certainly wouldn't have lasted as long as it did, and there would have been no cause for appeal.
More importantly the NCAA would certainly have mentioned that in their ruling. But they didn't mention this. Why would be pure speculation on my part but obviously they didn't find it credible.
Once again the NCAA never found that Kanter received a salary, nor that he was under contract. If he had been then he wouldn't have passed the first stage-gate in the NCAAs process for assessing eligibility. (And not only that but it would have been illegal because Kanter was too young at the time to sign a binding contract under FIBA regulations.)
As far as Len, I'm not as familiar with his situation as Kanter's but it's my understanding that he not only played WITH professionals (as did Kanter) but he played as a professional in that he was paid a nominal amount for playing pro basketball and IIRC may have been under a contract as well.
From the NCAA's point of view Len was clearly a professional, regardless of what caliber of league he played in.
If the NCAA went by the letter of its own rules then Len should not have gained eligibility. But the NCAA allowed him to pay back the monies and essentially act like his being a professional never happened.
I'm not opposed to that ruling, BTW, as the amount that Len received was very small. I just wish that the NCAA had been a little more compassionate to Enes Kanter (who was never found to be a professional player) and allowed him to set things right as well.
On this we can agree.
I put nothing past that corrupt incompetent organization.
I do think Skal plays the whole season.
We are talking about the NCAA. As others in this thread have pointed out, the NCAA is corrupt. Given that, I don't know how much they'd care about Skal's remarkable story. But unless there is hard evidence which exists that should make him ineligible, he needs to be allowed to play. Now I do believe it's quite possible that his handler/guardian is a greedy man who wants to make cash off his outstanding basketball talent, but that's not enough and I don't see the hard evidence that should keep him from playing college basketball at this time. If said hard evidence can be found that can/should rule him ineligible, obviously it's a different ballgame than what we've got now. But unless it's found and proven, I'm in the 'he needs to be allowed to play' crowd.
That raises an interesting question: Are the NCAA rules on amateurism/foreign players completely subjective?
The NCAA rules on ANYTHING are completely subjective. This has been proven time and time again.
Heck as shown with the Penn State case the NCAA will rule on something even without there being a rule on the books to break!
NCAA reached out to Keith Easterwood, Skal's AAU Coach, with questions regarding Hamilton...
Meanwhile at UNC and UL...
- "Has Mr. Hamilton ever texted you asking for your help in finding someone that could advance Mr. Hamilton a sum of mony related to Skal Labissiere?"
- "Did Mr. Hamilton ever inquire to you about how he could procure a 'shoe' deal for Skal Labissiere?"
Meanwhile at UNC and UL...
This all sounds really bad for the handler...the kid could be innocent and never get to play.
Already had some buddies who are UL fans tell me how concerned I should be. They are clinging at this like their life depends on it trying to keep their own ordeal out of the light.
New news on an old story. Of course being the NCAA, they wait until 20 days prior to the season before they begin asking questions.
However, if theyre still asking these types of questions at this late date, it means they havent uncovered anything imo.
Im not overly concerned about what the NCAA might do. Of course theyre jokes, but given precedent I dont think they have much to go on; and they definitely cant prove the athlete benefited in any way.
My main concern is just inaction. Knowing them, they may drag this thing way out, effectively declaring him ineligible without ever actually ruling.
However, if theyre still asking these types of questions at this late date, it means they havent uncovered anything imo.
Im not overly concerned about what the NCAA might do. Of course theyre jokes, but given precedent I dont think they have much to go on; and they definitely cant prove the athlete benefited in any way.
My main concern is just inaction. Knowing them, they may drag this thing way out, effectively declaring him ineligible without ever actually ruling.
Skals "guardian" sounded sketchy from the beginning. It would be a damn shame if Skal losses out on games bc the person who's supposed to be taking care of him accepted some benefits.
I'm still confident Skal will be fine, but I hope a decision is made soon to put this all to rest.
I'm still confident Skal will be fine, but I hope a decision is made soon to put this all to rest.
I dont think it was rumor at all. He reported the NCAA called and asked those questions, and Im sure they did. I dont see anything wrong with it.
I think this is a serious issue. We are dealing with an organization that at it's worse, hates Calipari and at it's best is terribly inconsistent in dispensing "justice".
It would not shock me at all if Skal is not eligible at all or for 10-12 games. It would shock me if he is fully eligible.
I think he has to be eligible for UK to have a big season.
It would not shock me at all if Skal is not eligible at all or for 10-12 games. It would shock me if he is fully eligible.
I think he has to be eligible for UK to have a big season.
It's good to know that while schools engage in hookers for recruits, wheels and blow for recruits/players, rampant cheating on a massive scale, the NCAA is hard at work turning over every rock to look into a good kid who has done nothing wrong. Way to go Emmert.
I am concerned. I dont think Skal had anything to do with taking ,money but his handler sounds like a real piece of work. And Skal will pay the price. I can already hear it...Cal agreed to pay the guy...Not a good situation.
Meanwhile at UNC and UL...
Well, in fairness, the UL scandal is brand new, the NCAA hasn't had time to do anything yet, no basis for whitewash accusations there.
But at UNC on the other hand....
The way I read it it is an old story. Praying that Skal get to play this year. It is not fair for him to have to sit because of what the handler did or did not do. We will know soon I think.
The way I read it it is an old story. Praying that Skal get to play this year. It is not fair for him to have to sit because of what the handler did or did not do. We will know soon I think.
Haters don't need this story to accuse Cal of paying players. They always do that. I just don't see how they can withhold his eligibility if they can't find anything that we did. The guy could be dirty as they come (Hamilton), but if we weren't involved, and Skal didn't take anything, it shouldn't matter, should it?
Think about that for a moment. There is enough ample evidence for unc to be permanently banned from college sports. yet nothing will happen.
The NCAA doesn't have to prove anything. They can just stick it to UK based on baseless rumors and I have a feeling that is exactly what will happen to Skal.
