Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions
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It isn't - if you think this is the end of Putin's expansion.
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If the delivery is direct, how does that not involve US troops being in U by air or land?
No way certain poster read that with an open mind. Trump is bad and he colluded with putin because cnn said so.,.. No amount of evidence will change their minds.
Agree, he did not. In fact, I made the same point at the time.
He just said that Putin is (being?) smart - which is all I said. But if Putin has mental issues, Trump's assessment of the guy doesn't look good for Trump imo.
At this point, I don't know if Putin knows anything.
One stinger could bring down several hundred B troops.Looks like those new Stinger missiles will be put to good use soon.
Ukraine war: Belarus poised to declare war
The Ukrainian state security service has officially reported that a rocket attack on Zhytomyr Airport - located some 93 miles west of Kiev - was launched from the territory of Belarus.www.dailymail.co.uk
Belarusian special forces were seen loading onto airplanes in preparation for an air assault on Kyiv in what could be a widening of the war, military sources stated.
It's their own corrupt hell, not Russia's.
I read that something like 25% of our Fertilizer comes from either russia or ukraine.
Well Russia didn't invade Ukraine on his watch. That says more than anything.
OK. We stayed 3-4 nights on Playa Grande north of Tamarindo a while back. Drove up as far as Brasilito Beach for a day.
bbc map of russia controlled territory in Ukraine. Looks like he is trying to connect Crimea by land.
I don't think that's a given. If so why wait till now? Why start with Ukraine?
Iirc he was pretty clear about what he intends and why he's doing it. Doesn't mean it's right or that it should be taken face value; but it's out there
Putin's dream of reuniting the Russian empire is falling apart
The Novorossiya project has been "frozen."
www.businessinsider.com
Russia needs Novorossiya
Russia needs Novorossiya and Malorossiya - at least the part of Malorossiya that is east of the Dnepr river. These parts are not "ukrainian", they never were and they never will be!
www.geopolitica.ru
One is western perspective the other Russian. I just picked them at random. It what I believed Putin was after in the beginning and ultimately it may be what he’s willing to negotiate to. It’s probably at this point the only way to avert more escalation. If not I’m afraid Putin will level those Russian built cities he’s treating like glass right now. A wounded Putin in the corner is probably a nuclear scenario.
Btw check out the novorossiya flag. Lol
Putin “was pretty clear?”
He and his state apparatchiki denied an intent to invade Ukraine more than 20 times.
Their Air Force dropped the first bombs on Russian territory, today, the first such bombing of Russian territory since 1945.
The Russians have established clear “air superiority,” but have failed to establish “air supremacy,” as the Ukrainians are still flying.
The Russians can likely deny them chosen paths, but they are still hitting and running.
Crimea received the majority of its fresh water from Ukraine. Once Russia took over Crimea, Ukraine dammed off the fresh water supply. Russia spend 4 billion on a bridge to truck water in. Even doing so they had droughts and had to ration water. The dam was destroyed by Russia a few days ago. It was a very important thing for them but it has been overlooked my most.
Russian troops destroy Ukrainian dam that blocked water to Crimea - RIA
Russian troops have destroyed a concrete dam built in Ukraine's Kherson Region in 2014 to cut off water to Crimea, the RIA news agency quoted the governor of Russian-annexed Crimea Sergei Aksyonov as saying on Saturday.
www.reuters.com
The real lasting effect of this war: the immediate re-militarization of Germany:
“During an emergency parliamentary session on Ukraine on Sunday, Chancellor Scholz announced an additional $113bn (£84bn) for the German army.
There was an audible ripple of shock in parliament. Some MPs clapped, some booed, others looked stunned.
Undeterred, Mr Scholz went on to announce drastic measures that would have been unthinkable a week ago, including a constitutional commitment to Nato's military spending target of 2% of GDP - and he confirmed that Germany would be sending weapons direct to Ukraine.
Within a few days Vladimir Putin has managed to do what Nato allies have spent years trying to achieve: a massive increase of military spending in Germany.
This is arguably one of the biggest shifts ever seen in Germany's post-war foreign policy.”
113 billion is quiet a sum.
Thanks, again, Mr. Putin!!
www.bbc.com
Let’s just be blunt: since 1945, the USA has shouldered the twin burdens of (1) taking over the British traditional role of sea dominance, internationally, and (2) the traditional German burden of holding back the hordes of Eur-Asia.
We formed Nato to stop the Soviets, but everyone whispered and nodded quietly that it ensnared the Germans into an international order to discourage future offensive moves.
It has been 80 years. Young Germans have internalized the lessons of the Holocaust as much as any people in the world, and no German below the age of 95 bears any more personal guilt for sins from 1935-1945 than do you or me.
“During an emergency parliamentary session on Ukraine on Sunday, Chancellor Scholz announced an additional $113bn (£84bn) for the German army.
There was an audible ripple of shock in parliament. Some MPs clapped, some booed, others looked stunned.
Undeterred, Mr Scholz went on to announce drastic measures that would have been unthinkable a week ago, including a constitutional commitment to Nato's military spending target of 2% of GDP - and he confirmed that Germany would be sending weapons direct to Ukraine.
Within a few days Vladimir Putin has managed to do what Nato allies have spent years trying to achieve: a massive increase of military spending in Germany.
This is arguably one of the biggest shifts ever seen in Germany's post-war foreign policy.”
113 billion is quiet a sum.
Thanks, again, Mr. Putin!!
Ukraine conflict: Putin's war prompts dramatic German U-turn
Germany's new chancellor announces a massive increase in military spending as anti-war crowds gather.
www.bbc.com
Let’s just be blunt: since 1945, the USA has shouldered the twin burdens of (1) taking over the British traditional role of sea dominance, internationally, and (2) the traditional German burden of holding back the hordes of Eur-Asia.
We formed Nato to stop the Soviets, but everyone whispered and nodded quietly that it ensnared the Germans into an international order to discourage future offensive moves.
It has been 80 years. Young Germans have internalized the lessons of the Holocaust as much as any people in the world, and no German below the age of 95 bears any more personal guilt for sins from 1935-1945 than do you or me.
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I didn't see that one coming. I thought china would use this as a reason to get a pipeline into china.
I was thinking earlier about how this will cause nuclear weapons to proliferate. Germany will probably be first on that list.The real lasting effect of this war: the immediate re-militarization of Germany:
“During an emergency parliamentary session on Ukraine on Sunday, Chancellor Scholz announced an additional $113bn (£84bn) for the German army.
There was an audible ripple of shock in parliament. Some MPs clapped, some booed, others looked stunned.
Undeterred, Mr Scholz went on to announce drastic measures that would have been unthinkable a week ago, including a constitutional commitment to Nato's military spending target of 2% of GDP - and he confirmed that Germany would be sending weapons direct to Ukraine.
Within a few days Vladimir Putin has managed to do what Nato allies have spent years trying to achieve: a massive increase of military spending in Germany.
This is arguably one of the biggest shifts ever seen in Germany's post-war foreign policy.”
113 billion is quiet a sum.
Thanks, again, Mr. Putin!!
Ukraine conflict: Putin's war prompts dramatic German U-turn
Germany's new chancellor announces a massive increase in military spending as anti-war crowds gather.
Let’s just be blunt: since 1945, the USA has shouldered the twin burdens of (1) taking over the British traditional role of sea dominance, internationally, and (2) the traditional German burden of holding back the hordes of Eur-Asia.
We formed Nato to stop the Soviets, but everyone whispered and nodded quietly that it ensnared the Germans into an international order to discourage future offensive moves.
It has been 80 years. Young Germans have internalized the lessons of the Holocaust as much as any people in the world, and no German below the age of 95 bears any more personal guilt for sins from 1935-1945 than do you or me.
we need a strong german army. The past is the past.The real lasting effect of this war: the immediate re-militarization of Germany:
“During an emergency parliamentary session on Ukraine on Sunday, Chancellor Scholz announced an additional $113bn (£84bn) for the German army.
There was an audible ripple of shock in parliament. Some MPs clapped, some booed, others looked stunned.
Undeterred, Mr Scholz went on to announce drastic measures that would have been unthinkable a week ago, including a constitutional commitment to Nato's military spending target of 2% of GDP - and he confirmed that Germany would be sending weapons direct to Ukraine.
Within a few days Vladimir Putin has managed to do what Nato allies have spent years trying to achieve: a massive increase of military spending in Germany.
This is arguably one of the biggest shifts ever seen in Germany's post-war foreign policy.”
113 billion is quiet a sum.
Thanks, again, Mr. Putin!!
Ukraine conflict: Putin's war prompts dramatic German U-turn
Germany's new chancellor announces a massive increase in military spending as anti-war crowds gather.
Let’s just be blunt: since 1945, the USA has shouldered the twin burdens of (1) taking over the British traditional role of sea dominance, internationally, and (2) the traditional German burden of holding back the hordes of Eur-Asia.
We formed Nato to stop the Soviets, but everyone whispered and nodded quietly that it ensnared the Germans into an international order to discourage future offensive moves.
It has been 80 years. Young Germans have internalized the lessons of the Holocaust as much as any people in the world, and no German below the age of 95 bears any more personal guilt for sins from 1935-1945 than do you or me.
Like I said, doesn't mean you can believe it. But yes the intention and rationale are stated
I cannot and do not accept this (traditionally) left-wing, false moral equivalency!
Stack ALL THE SINS of which you complain of the Anglo-American Order, Slavery, racism, and all the petty acts we did battling the Soviet Union, and they are a microscopic mark upon history compared to the ONE-HUNDRED-MILLION deaths caused since 1921 by Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and the other petty tyrants and dictators we have opposed.
Your analysis could have been used in previous crises: because of our sin of slavery, should we have had the moral gumption to oppose Hitler and the Holocaust?
Your juxtaposition of our perceived errors in opposing radical Central American COMMUNIST leaders in Central and South America in the 50’s and 60’s has absolutely no relevance to European affairs in the 21st Century, no matter how loudly the leftists in our colleges and Universites shouted about it the last 40 years.
No. The Anglo-American 500 year experiment does not have clean hands, but we will not allow our sister to be raped without intervention, because of excessive self-imposed guilt because we once pinched a girl on the ass.
Russia has found it’s Hell.
In 60 seconds in the film, above, you witness the deaths of at least 10 Russians by frying to death, and at least $150,000.00 worth of military equipment . . . at the cost of 50.00 bucks of gas (even at European values.).
In 60 seconds in the film, above, you witness the deaths of at least 10 Russians by frying to death, and at least $150,000.00 worth of military equipment . . . at the cost of 50.00 bucks of gas (even at European values.).
And here is a film of at least 25 Russians near Kharkiv who abandon at least 5 vehicles choosing to run-away on foot.
www.google.com
Live updates: Russia invades Ukraine
The two sides agree to meet at the Belarus border Monday, Ukrainian President Zelensky's office says, as Russian President Putin put nuclear forces on alert. Follow here for live news updates from the ground in Ukraine.
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