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I read an interivew recently with Zelly where he noted talking to the Ukrainians that were "liberated" was like "talking to people iwth astronaut suits," implying they had been so thoroughly propagandized, they didn't want to be part of Ukraine anymore.

Ofcourse they wouldn't. Once Russian propaganda got a hold of the people still living there, they'd be 95% pro-Russia like Crimea is. That's why you have to ban opposition, you have to control the narrative. You want to be in control of the brainwashing.

BigBlueFanGA said:
Stats at that level are pretty reliable. Maybe you can someone in a chicken suit on twitter to explain how im wrong.
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No they aren't.
 
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Biden said he would stand behind Ukr as long as it stands... That isn't getting promoted near as much as it should given what we know.
 
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BigBlueFanGA said:
but huge numbers of Ukrainians left those areas, as you said, they want peace.
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Millions of them fled to Russia.

That thought never even crossed your thoroughly propagandized mind, did it? I know it didn't.

Millions went to Russia; do you know what you know about them? They aren't anti-Russian. You know what you know about the ones who fled west? Well, you don't know they were anti-Russian. Many of them were pro-Russian, just richer... rich enough to enjoy the luxury and better weather in the west.

No, I'm not wrong... not some idiot liar like you want to believe.
 
SDC888 said:
I read an interivew recently with Zelly where he noted talking to the Ukrainians that were "liberated" was like "talking to people iwth astronaut suits," implying they had been so thoroughly propagandized, they didn't want to be part of Ukraine anymore.

Ofcourse they wouldn't. Once Russian propaganda got a hold of the people still living there, they'd be 95% pro-Russia like Crimea is. That's why you have to ban opposition, you have to control the narrative. You want to be in control of the brainwashing.


No they aren't.
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Yes they are. I'll take it you've never studied stats. Do you honestly think you get honest answers in Crimea and occupied areas? Those pointed guns answer questions pretty clearly.
 
Here, this is what the average person there thinks. To you, she's some paid Russian plant, just some idiot liar.

 
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You think the reports of 100,000 to 130,000 Ukr losses are fake then? Your constant use of the orc slang makes me think you aren't going to accept any peace deal. I wonder why you are so invested in war 12000 miles away from us?
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Um, it’s just 5,000 miles to Ukraine. There’s no war going on in western Australia.

Unless, maybe you meant to overstate? Do you do that a lot?
 
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Starobilsk is the only decent-sized town furthest east past Kreminna aside from Luhansk before the border. AFU may decide to take advantage of the frozen grown and proceed, Orc morale is terrible.

Wildcats1st says the Orcs will likely sacrifice 20 million of their own to defend it, his ex FS buddies told him that so let’s tell the AFU to abandon that effort now
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Just curious... Is calling Russians orcs considered racist or do you get a pass on that?
 
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SDC888 said:
Millions of them fled to Russia.

That thought never even crossed your thoroughly propagandized mind, did it? I know it didn't.

Millions went to Russia; do you know what you know about them? They aren't anti-Russian. You know what you know about the ones who fled west? Well, you don't know they were anti-Russian. Many of them were pro-Russian, just richer... rich enough to enjoy the luxury and better weather in the west.

No, I'm not wrong... not some idiot liar like you want to believe.
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No.
SDC888 said:
Here, this is what the average person there thinks. To you, she's some paid Russian plant, just some idiot liar.

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You've never understood the word anecdotal
 
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hmt5000 said:
So you admit that calling Russians orcs is racist then. Orcs were a lesser race that had been corrupted elves 1000's of years earlier. I get the reference which is why I realize the racism in the use in this context.
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Wait, what? Ukrainians use the term for clear reasons. Racist? Huh?
 
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hmt5000 said:
You think the reports of 100,000 to 130,000 Ukr losses are fake then? Your constant use of the orc slang makes me think you aren't going to accept any peace deal. I wonder why you are so invested in war 12000 miles away from us?
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If you paid attention to my past posts, you’d see that I was on board with Trump brokering a peace deal. But you haven’t and just assume things. You’re the first American I’ve seen that just got offended by the “Orc” label, stop being thin-skinned. Guess you have no problem of the continual Russian use of “Nazis” to describe the Ukrainian population?
 
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If you paid attention to my past posts, you’d see that I was on board with Trump brokering a peace deal. But you haven’t and just assume things. You’re the first American I’ve seen that just got offended by the “Orc” label, stop being thin-skinned. Guess you have no problem of the continual Russian use of “Nazis” to describe the Ukrainian population?
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HOLY LEE CHIT... You just compared orc to nazi. LOL. Thanks for letting me know how insane you actually are. LOL. The fact you don't understand the difference says loads.
 
hmt5000 said:
HOLY LEE CHIT... You just compared orc to nazi. LOL. Thanks for letting me know how insane you actually are. LOL. The fact you don't understand the difference says loads.
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Your reading comprehension is abysmal, good lord. I never compared the two, only idiot would interpret that post that way. You also accused me of wanting to go to war with Assad (which said nothing of the sort) in one of my past posts because of your inability to read or interpret posts correctly.
 
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hmt5000 said:
thanks for proving you are a huge hypocrite. I thought you were just an old neocon but turns out you don't give a shit about facts.... you want war with Russia.
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Wait, what? How did we get from orcs to that? What facts? Does your brain always bounce around with no rhyme or reason?
 
bcw1029 said:
Your reading comprehension is abysmal, good lord. I never compared the two, only idiot would interpret that post that way. You also accused me of wanting to go to war with Assad (which said nothing of the sort) in one of my past posts because of your inability to read or interpret posts correctly.
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the difference is I dont want to fund anyone in Russia. You want to fund the nazi's in Ukr and pretend they aren't nazis. You are a hypocrite. You can play it how you want but you are fully aware of the nazis in Ukr and you choose to ignore them. The fact you try so hard to show there is a nazi in Russia shows you know that Nazi's are wrong... you just chose one nazi over the other.


THe rest of us dont want to deal with any of the nazi fookers over there....
 
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hmt5000 said:
the difference is I dont want to fund anyone in Russia. You want to fund the nazi's in Ukr and pretend they aren't nazis. You are a hypocrite. You can play it how you want but you are fully aware of the nazis in Ukr and you choose to ignore them. The fact you try so hard to show there is a nazi in Russia shows you know that Nazi's are wrong... you just chose one nazi over the other.


THe rest of us dont want to deal with any of the nazi fookers over there....
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Azov had some neonazis. Inferring that Ukraine has lots of them or any with actual power is just ignorant.
 
hmt5000 said:
the difference is I dont want to fund anyone in Russia. You want to fund the nazi's in Ukr and pretend they aren't nazis. You are a hypocrite. You can play it how you want but you are fully aware of the nazis in Ukr and you choose to ignore them. The fact you try so hard to show there is a nazi in Russia shows you know that Nazi's are wrong... you just chose one nazi over the other.


THe rest of us dont want to deal with any of the nazi fookers over there....
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Put down the bottle. The fact that you firmly believe Ukraine is a “Nazi government” tells me one thing: you’ve bought into the propaganda and I can’t really take you seriously anymore.

HMT’s reading comprehension skills rival Cal’s coaching skills. Close contest.
 
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“You’ve bought into the propaganda” Is my favorite line coming from the people who are lockstep with the political establishment, all major corporate owned media companies, the entire military industrial complex and all social media influencers.
 
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BigBlueFanGA said:
No.

You've never understood the word anecdotal
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Nonsense. You're talking out of your ass. You're (collectively) only ever talking talking out your assess.

I also found this. I'm surprised this video hasn't been deleted from the internet in this brave new world our complete loser "elites" and their useful idiots have foisted upon us.

I can guarantee you this guy is in every one of the villages in SE ukraine. Throw a rock in any direction, you will hit him.



This is what your "pro-Ukraine" opinion in the contested regions actually sounds like.



Or like this.

She is not a paid Russian plant nor an idiot liar, they just don't want there lives needlessly disrupted like they were.



This is what your average family there thinks.



This is the reality you'll never see due to the actual idiot liars in media/government telling you what you want to hear: hiding their (yes, very much real) naziism, hatred and bigotry, that is all disgusting and more contributive to this war than "freedom, democracy and sovereignty" ever were.



And this is the actual reality of it all.



Had we in the west never interfered in their affairs, they would've figured this out on their own, without all the stupid and needless bloodshed. We've used them for profit and geopolitical gain, they've eagerly used us in return to fund their corruption and war lust.

bcw1029 said:
Put down the bottle. The fact that you firmly believe Ukraine is a “Nazi government” tells me one thing: you’ve bought into the propaganda and I can’t really take you seriously anymore.

HMT’s reading comprehension skills rival Cal’s coaching skills. Close contest.
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It's not everyone, but yeah some 10-20% are what we in the west would find clearly objectionable, rightly characterizewd as ethnic nationalist fascistic BS or Nazi... some 30-40% of pop in western Ukraine atleast sympathetic.

And that's all it takes. It doesn't have to be 100%.

You people are talking out of your asses. You don't know what you don't know; that's the best thing that can be said about you, really.
 
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bcw1029 said:
You’re the first American I’ve seen that just got offended by the “Orc” label, stop being thin-skinned. Guess you have no problem of the continual Russian use of “Nazis” to describe the Ukrainian population?
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Everyone should be offended by it. It's propaganda used to dehumanize, to justify your pro-war lust as righteous and necessary.
 
Everyone who supported Trump’s policies have been labeled racist and Nazis for over five years by the same people who want to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.

So forgive those of us who have no patience for assholes who now think sending billions to a material percentage of actual self identified Nazis is something we should all overlook.
 
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Bill Cosby said:
“You’ve bought into the propaganda” Is my favorite line coming from the people who are lockstep with the political establishment, all major corporate owned media companies, the entire military industrial complex and all social media influencers.
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That is such a stupid statement, lol, only a fool uses such broad terms because its impossible for them to be correct Mr alt-right.
 
SDC888 said:
Everyone should be offended by it. It's propaganda used to dehumanize, to justify your pro-war lust as righteous and necessary.
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Fascinating. You dont mind calling Ukrainians names but you need a safety pin when its done to Russians.
 
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Everyone who supported Trump’s policies have been labeled racist and Nazis for over five years by the same people who want to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.

So forgive those of us who have no patience for assholes who now think sending billions to a material percentage of actual self identified Nazis is something we should all overlook.
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Self identified? Good then you should be able to show us all these nazi's. Go ahead, we'll wait.
 
How many people are posting under the @BigBlueFanGA username?

I’ve never seen anything like it on this site. It’s like there’s a hard reset every evening, and the new person using the user name has missed every other post in this thread. Coupled with lack of critical thought or ability to reason, it has to be a bot farm.
 
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SDC888 said:
Everyone should be offended by it. It's propaganda used to dehumanize, to justify your pro-war lust as righteous and necessary.
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An invading imperial army committing mass atrocities and mass suffering needlessly gets no sympathy in my book. I’m sorry you and your alt-right cohorts are offended. Your definition of pro-war is simply twisted, and you know it.
 
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Bill Cosby said:
Everyone who supported Trump’s policies have been labeled racist and Nazis for over five years by the same people who want to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.

So forgive those of us who have no patience for assholes who now think sending billions to a material percentage of actual self identified Nazis is something we should all overlook.
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Self-identified Nazis? See, you simply have zero clue what you are talking about and just repeat the propaganda. You all are so damn predictable and boring. And for the record, I supported Trump’s policies.
 
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