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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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An invading imperial army committing mass atrocities and mass suffering needlessly gets no sympathy in my book. I’m sorry you and your alt-right cohorts are offended. Your definition of pro-war is simply twisted, and you know it.
He just proved to me he's pro-russian. No need to keep entertaining him, he can be dealt with the same was as @Warrior Poet31.
 
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Self-identified Nazis? See, you simply have zero clue what you are talking about and just repeat the propaganda. You all are so damn predictable and boring. And for the record, I supported Trump’s policies.
I did too but he can't win again so there is no use in them whining for Trump.
 
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Fascinating. You dont mind calling Ukrainians names but you need a safety pin when its done to Russians.
Like your insults, I'm not going to dignify your strawman arguments any more than I already have.
Self identified? Good then you should be able to show us all these nazi's. Go ahead, we'll wait.

Even when they tell you it to your face, you still don't believe it. There's a word for that.

It's not like the average western ukrainian isn't aware enough to understand how bad of a look itt is. THAT'S WHAT THE REBRAND IS ABOUT, CHANGIN THEIR LOGO FROM A SWASTIKA OT THREE STRIPE ADIDAS, THEM VISITING ISRAEL ETC


An invading imperial army committing mass atrocities and mass suffering needlessly gets no sympathy in my book. I’m sorry you and your alt-right cohorts are offended. Your definition of pro-war is simply twisted, and you know it.
No, none of that.

You don't konw what you reveal about yourselves, but ok. Dehumanization is propaganda 101. And I'm not "alt-right," nor in some cohort other than I'm not like you.

You are pro-war. You don't care what it takes so long as Russia doesn't "win."

There are only losers, no winners.
Self-identified Nazis? See, you simply have zero clue what you are talking about and just repeat the propaganda. You all are so damn predictable and boring. And for the record, I supported Trump’s policies.
As bigbluefanGa is no position to insult anyone's intelligence in this thread, so to are you in no position to criticize anyone as just repeating propaganda.
 
Like your insults, I'm not going to dignify your strawman arguments any more than I already have.


Even when they tell you it to your face, you still don't believe it. There's a word for that.

It's not like the average western ukrainian isn't aware enough to understand how bad of a look itt is. THAT'S WHAT THE REBRAND IS ABOUT, CHANGIN THEIR LOGO FROM A SWASTIKA OT THREE STRIPE ADIDAS, THEM VISITING ISRAEL ETC



No, none of that.

You don't konw what you reveal about yourselves, but ok. Dehumanization is propaganda 101. And I'm not "alt-right," nor in some cohort other than I'm not like you.

You are pro-war. You don't care what it takes so long as Russia doesn't "win."

There are only losers, no winners.
Do you know what the invading imperial army calls Ukrainians? Doubt you care. There will eventually be a winner, and it won’t be the one you favor.
 
Do you know what the invading imperial army calls Ukrainians? Doubt you care. There will eventually be a winner, and it won’t be the one you favor.

Your misguided belief the anti-war argument is favoring Russia is also its own propaganda.

There are two sides to this ignoratn war, yes... but it's not what you think it is. The right side is no side.

He just proved to me he's pro-russian. No need to keep entertaining him, he can be dealt with the same was as @Warrior Poet31.
:rolleyes:

Good
 
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And what happens when/if it's not the side you favor?

What have you achieved then? Who benefited?
 
How many people are posting under the @BigBlueFanGA username?

I’ve never seen anything like it on this site. It’s like there’s a hard reset every evening, and the new person using the user name has missed every other post in this thread. Coupled with lack of critical thought or ability to reason, it has to be a bot farm.
Sure thing sunshine. Btw, what the **** are you talking about? What thread do you think I missed this time?
 
Your misguided belief the anti-war argument is favoring Russia is also its own propaganda.

There are two sides to this ignoratn war, yes... but it's not what you think it is. The right side is no side.


:rolleyes:

Good
Good? Lol, I doubt you'll like it.
 
And what happens when/if it's not the side you favor?

What have you achieved then? Who benefited?
Once that happens, in either direction, there is nothing that you or I can do about it. If Russia somehow takes Ukraine that's just the way it is but in the big picture, I don't think Europe will allow it. Russia will run out of troops before Ukraine runs out of better and better equipment.
 
Everyone who supported Trump’s policies have been labeled racist and Nazis for over five years by the same people who want to continue sending billions of dollars to Ukraine.

So forgive those of us who have no patience for assholes who now think sending billions to a material percentage of actual self identified Nazis is something we should all overlook.
Hmm, what would that material percentage be exactly? I see you've backtracked from 100% so now you claim "self-identified" and I bet your number has dropped to about .1% No, I don't mean 10%, I mean .1%. Perhaps you can show the class this vast number of self-identified nazi's while you're at it.
 
So you admit that calling Russians orcs is racist then. Orcs were a lesser race that had been corrupted elves 1000's of years earlier. I get the reference which is why I realize the racism in the use in this context.
Your desperate pleas for sympathy by attempting to play the race card in the most ridiculous way possible taste so, so sweet. Thank you.
 
Agreed. And thus far none of them, aside from repeating the same talking points, can link the Ukrainian government to Nazis.
I posted a video of a US soldier who served with Azov for several months. He liked the guys but said they used some of the most racist language he'd ever heard.
 
Your desperate pleas for sympathy by attempting to play the race card in the most ridiculous way possible taste so, so sweet. Thank you.
Not pleaing and really don't care about sympathy. I'm just pointing out that you are taking the Ukraine nazi side of this fight by calling Russians orcs. You are definitely free to choose Ukraine over your own country but it used to be frowned on. Ukr is committing war crimes as bad or worse than what Russia has done. I just don't want to be associated with them and don't want tax dollars going to back that corrupt government.
 
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Not pleaing and really don't care about sympathy. I'm just pointing out that you are taking the Ukraine nazi side of this fight by calling Russians orcs. You are definitely free to choose Ukraine over your own country but it used to be frowned on. Ukr is committing war crimes as bad or worse than what Russia has done. I just don't want to be associated with them and don't want tax dollars going to back that corrupt government.
Crimea river. Sounds like you need some cuddle time with your Little Vladdy Poot-Poot plush toy.
 
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I'll give you credit for being emotionally shook over someone not wanting to start ww3.
Emotionally shook? Nah man, that's you for attempting to play the race card on behalf of the Russian military.

I'm positively copacetic.
 
Not pleaing and really don't care about sympathy. I'm just pointing out that you are taking the Ukraine nazi side of this fight by calling Russians orcs. You are definitely free to choose Ukraine over your own country but it used to be frowned on. Ukr is committing war crimes as bad or worse than what Russia has done. I just don't want to be associated with them and don't want tax dollars going to back that corrupt government.
We know. We know. You only want us to stop sending money (it’s actually 90% equipment and weapons but that wouldn’t support the corruption narrative), and you don’t really care (wink, wink) who wins the war (as long as it isn’t Ukraine).

We get it. You want America to resume its pre-WWI isolationist policies.

Did I get the main points? The points which, if followed would allow Putin to take what he wants from Ukraine and then whoever is next on his list.

Oh, we get it.
 
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We know. We know. You only want us to stop sending money (it’s actually 90% equipment and weapons but that wouldn’t support the corruption narrative), and you don’t really care (wink, wink) who wins the war (as long as it isn’t Ukraine).

We get it. You want America to resume its pre-WWI isolationist policies.

Did I get the main points? The points which, if followed would allow Putin to take what he wants from Ukraine and then whoever is next on his list.

Oh, we get it.
You got part of it. I just think you overestimate Russias ability to takeover Europe. If he's struggling in Ukraine then how the hell would he invade all of Europe?
 
We know. We know. You only want us to stop sending money (it’s actually 90% equipment and weapons but that wouldn’t support the corruption narrative), and you don’t really care (wink, wink) who wins the war (as long as it isn’t Ukraine).

We get it. You want America to resume its pre-WWI isolationist policies.

Did I get the main points? The points which, if followed would allow Putin to take what he wants from Ukraine and then whoever is next on his list.

Oh, we get it.
Who is paying for the 90%? It’s safe to assume that 90% is going to defense companies in the US. The same defense companies that send millions of dollars to buy politicians, and around we go.

That’s not to mention the Billions in cash we’re sending. We know our politicians were corrupt when we were just sending a billion dollars a year. Think what they could do with a low of 8 billion in 10 months.
 
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@SDC888 I see you liked @Warrior Poet31 claim that he posted "receipts". Maybe you can link them for me since he's gone back under Putins desk.


We already went over all that. At the beginning of this needless and orchestrated tragedy I posted an Azov leader unreservedly telling you they are Nazis, that without them, none of "this" would've been possible and how eager they were for the coming war.

And you have the internet; you can find all this information in mainstream "credible" sources before the war started... you just have to want to.

THEY ARE NAZIS IN THE REAL SENSE NOT LIKE THAT BS IN OUR DOMESTIC DECADENT POLITICS OR IN THE NAIVE WELL EVERYONE HAS BIGOTS SENSE. NO< NOT EVERY SINGLE UKRAINIAN OR EVEN THE MAJORITY OF WESTERN UKRAINIANS WHERE THESE UGLY IDEAS ARE PERVASIVE<BUT WIHOUT THEM WE WOULDNT BE HERE AND WE HAVE NO VALID REASON SUPPORTING THEM OR THEIR CIVIL WAR

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Your desperate pleas for sympathy by attempting to play the race card in the most ridiculous way possible taste so, so sweet. Thank you.

It's bigotry like any other.

BUT THE UKES SAY IT THEMSELVES!

Yes, dehumanizing the enemy is war propaganda 101.
 
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Who is paying for the 90%? It’s safe to assume that 90% is going to defense companies in the US. The same defense companies that send millions of dollars to buy politicians, and around we go.

That’s not to mention the Billions in cash we’re sending. We know our politicians were corrupt when we were just sending a billion dollars a year. Think what they could do with a low of 8 billion in 10 months.

War is a racket.

 
We know. We know. You only want us to stop sending money (it’s actually 90% equipment and weapons but that wouldn’t support the corruption narrative), and you don’t really care (wink, wink) who wins the war (as long as it isn’t Ukraine).

We get it. You want America to resume its pre-WWI isolationist policies.

Did I get the main points? The points which, if followed would allow Putin to take what he wants from Ukraine and then whoever is next on his list.

Oh, we get it.


Let’s assume for a second it is less corrupt to send equipment and weapons that need to be replaced in a hyper inflationary environment, where are you getting your 90% number?
 
I posted a video of a US soldier who served with Azov for several months. He liked the guys but said they used some of the most racist language he'd ever heard.
Again, your reading comprehension skills are terrible. I said Ukrainian government, not some miscellaneous Azov soldier.
 
Hmm, what would that material percentage be exactly? I see you've backtracked from 100% so now you claim "self-identified" and I bet your number has dropped to about .1% No, I don't mean 10%, I mean .1%. Perhaps you can show the class this vast number of self-identified nazi's while you're at it.
Good luck getting that answer from him.
 
Azoz is not 10% NAZI.... Azov is 100% nazi. Ukraine is 10% nazi. Probably even higher now.

Again, your reading comprehension skills are terrible. I said Ukrainian government, not some miscellaneous Azov soldier.

Time to invest ina mirror, bro.

Good luck getting that answer from him.
I answered it. He's right, you're (pl.) not.

Do you know what the Russian military calls Ukrainians?
That's propaganda 101 too.
 
Time to invest ina mirror, bro.


I answered it. He's right, you're (pl.) not.


That's propaganda 101 too.
It’s not propaganda, it’s a fact. Your pro-Russian sympathies deem anything disagreeing with your narrative as propaganda.

Well, your “answer” was insufficient. Try harder.
 
THEY ARE NAZIS IN THE REAL SENSE NOT LIKE THAT BS IN OUR DOMESTIC DECADENT POLITICS OR IN THE NAIVE WELL EVERYONE HAS BIGOTS SENSE. NO< NOT EVERY SINGLE UKRAINIAN OR EVEN THE MAJORITY OF WESTERN UKRAINIANS WHERE THESE UGLY IDEAS ARE PERVASIVE<BUT WIHOUT THEM WE WOULDNT BE HERE AND WE HAVE NO VALID REASON SUPPORTING THEM OR THEIR CIVIL WAR

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YOUR ANSWER IS INCOHERENT. TRY NOT USING ALL-CAPS NEXT TIME, BRO!
 
Why would Ukraine do this? And you think they are the good guys



And then this 🤣

They're under attack. Duh. Of course you need to control the information flow. Called martial law. Dam.
 
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They're under attack. Duh. Of course you need to control the information flow. Called martial law. Dam.
So Ukraine isn’t a democratic free society? Why do they have to control the information flow if it’s an anti Russian nation? Remember they hate Russia. That’s what you clowns say. Reality is there are many many Ukrainians not happy with zelensky who think let Russia have the Donbas. Go to the table. Stop the bombings but you’re comedian hero doesn’t want that to gain traction. Because a nation is attacked is no reason to throw out democracy unless that country wasn’t democratic to begin with. Yakanovych a democratically elected leader was thrown out like speech. Yeah Ukraine is a shit hole of corruption and you goons will defend it at every juncture. They don’t want their people to hear that Hollande and merkels remarks that Minsk was a ruse in order to buy time for Ukraine and NATO to organize. You neo con neo lib whatever ptsded russiaphobes don’t have a leg to stand on. Get off this corrupt ass country’s nuts they use the tactics of the soviet empire.


If USA is under attack you’re ok to toss the bill of rights while the government instituted martial law? Riiigghhhttt….
 
After 10 months of a certain group posting conspiracy theories, hate filled attacks on Ukraine and Zelensky, flat out lies and innuendo, yes, at some point you call a spade a spade.

So, why is Zelensky a clown and what is a war hawk?

You're a war hawk, and zelensky is a clown. 🤡 a propagandist clown.

These are simple facts.
 
So Ukraine isn’t a democratic free society? Why do they have to control the information flow if it’s an anti Russian nation?
Good lord, US had information/communication restrictions during WWII. Guess we weren't a free society either, right?
 
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