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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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There seem to be a lot of Red Amerikans in this thread. Has anyone asked them why they’re still living in the US?

It’s very easy to emigrate to Russia. They have everything an alt-right white man could want. Well, except the freedom to have as many guns as you want. Russia has very tight restrictions on who owns guns and what type of guns you can own. Dictators don’t want the common man to rise up, I suppose.

None of the former USSR countries want to be aligned with Russia now. Even the people of Belarus staged massive protests when Lukashenko decided he wanted to be “President for life” like his mentor Putin. The nations of the Collective Security Treaty Organization have turned on Putin after Ukraine’s exposure of a weak Russian military.

They are seeking closer relations with China as protection from Putin’s tyranny. China has warned Russian that they won’t allow invasion of the central Asian nations. The invasion of Ukraine is costing Russia much, much more than the tens of thousands of troop losses, the precedent-setting sanctions and the degradation of their military.
So I guess you are going to move to Ukraine then. The way you guys talk Z is the greatest leader in the world and they are burgeoning democracy and are about to beat the hell out of the evil Russians... I'll pay you plane ticket. Weird you try to make it sound like we are the racist when its the nazi's in Ukraine that led to most of this.
 
So I guess you are going to move to Ukraine then. The way you guys talk Z is the greatest leader in the world and they are burgeoning democracy and are about to beat the hell out of the evil Russians... I'll pay you plane ticket. Weird you try to make it sound like we are the racist when its the nazi's in Ukraine that led to most of this.
Z is a coke head Nazi Satanist
 



Azov guys with a "looter". It looks really cold there. Others are reporting that they are targeting Russian speakers. Can't have no Russian speakers in a democratic nation...
 
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There seem to be a lot of Red Amerikans in this thread. Has anyone asked them why they’re still living in the US?

It’s very easy to emigrate to Russia. They have everything an alt-right white man could want. Well, except the freedom to have as many guns as you want. Russia has very tight restrictions on who owns guns and what type of guns you can own. Dictators don’t want the common man to rise up, I suppose.

None of the former USSR countries want to be aligned with Russia now. Even the people of Belarus staged massive protests when Lukashenko decided he wanted to be “President for life” like his mentor Putin. The nations of the Collective Security Treaty Organization have turned on Putin after Ukraine’s exposure of a weak Russian military.

They are seeking closer relations with China as protection from Putin’s tyranny. China has warned Russian that they won’t allow invasion of the central Asian nations. The invasion of Ukraine is costing Russia much, much more than the tens of thousands of troop losses, the precedent-setting sanctions and the degradation of their military.
100% correct.
 
You should be happy Rogozin was severely wounded on his birthday in Donetsk, he’s a big fat Nazi. Pig took shrapnel in the a*** 😆.

Will you acknowledge there are Russian Nazis in this war?
I haven't looked into it, but I would find it hard to believe given the history Russians had with the Nazis. They have a holiday like our 4th of July which is all about kicking that Nazi ass.
 
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You sound like Joseph McCarthy. While you’re at it why don’t you round up all the people trying to prevent all out war and put them in concentration camps like your fdr hero? I mean that’s a biden play. Again you live in another world man you want to suppress speech with your lies. Buena suerte
My opinion of you keeps your opinion of me off my list of concerns. Merry Christmas.
 
I haven't looked into it, but I would find it hard to believe given the history Russians had with the Nazis. They have a holiday like our 4th of July which is all about kicking that Nazi ass.
Well then, you would be completely mistaken. A quick internet search will yield the results of Nazi links.
 
You should be happy Rogozin was severely wounded on his birthday in Donetsk, he’s a big fat Nazi. Pig took shrapnel in the a*** 😆.

Will you acknowledge there are Russian Nazis in this war?
Sure. Will you acknowledge the Ukraine is full of Nazis? Zelensky is a Nazi
 
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Sure. Will you acknowledge the Ukraine is full of Nazis? Zelensky is a Nazi
Full of Nazis as in how many? Wagner has some Nazis too, as I’ve displayed on previous occasions. Calling BS on the Zelensky/Nazi link, with all due respect bud

Hope ClownWildcats1st was able to enjoy Christmas lights in his bunker or Nicaraguan cave.
 
Well then, you would be completely mistaken. A quick internet search will yield the results of Nazi links.
So then a quick internet search would also show tha azov nazi links. So you'd agree we shouldn't be involved with either of these moral degenerates?
 
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So I guess you are going to move to Ukraine then. The way you guys talk Z is the greatest leader in the world and they are burgeoning democracy and are about to beat the hell out of the evil Russians... I'll pay you plane ticket. Weird you try to make it sound like we are the racist when its the nazi's in Ukraine that led to most of this.
Again with the nazi lie. How many times must that be shown wrong. Well, you are partly right now. The Wagner Group literally has lots of nazis so I guess you get some credit.
 
I haven't looked into it, but I would find it hard to believe given the history Russians had with the Nazis. They have a holiday like our 4th of July which is all about kicking that Nazi ass.
We thought you guys were the "in the know" group.
 
Full of Nazis as in how many? Wagner has some Nazis too, as I’ve displayed on previous occasions. Calling BS on the Zelensky/Nazi link, with all due respect bud

Hope ClownWildcats1st was able to enjoy Christmas lights in his bunker or Nicaraguan cave.
Gassy is just trolling. No one is that stupid.
 
So then a quick internet search would also show tha azov nazi links. So you'd agree we shouldn't be involved with either of these moral degenerates?
Again, Asov had 10-15% who you describe that way. Wagner is probably similar. Stop making such broad statements based off small percentages.
 
Full of Nazis as in how many? Wagner has some Nazis too, as I’ve displayed on previous occasions. Calling BS on the Zelensky/Nazi link, with all due respect bud

Hope ClownWildcats1st was able to enjoy Christmas lights in his bunker or Nicaraguan cave.
Plenty of Christmas lights where I live and plenty of good people who refuse war. And btw at least my sources of info aren’t Israeli cab drivers living in random european cities.
 
My opinion of you keeps your opinion of me off my list of concerns. Merry Christmas.
Well next time this joe McCarthy it will be hell to pay for the oppressors. So watch out for that day. And that’s not an opinion of you.
 
Massive truths in this article that are inconvenient for the zelensky/Ukraine sanctimonious boot lickers. Zelensky is a dictator and yes our politicians are cheering for war. Ukraine is no stable democracy. Like I’ve said before it’s Russias little brother.

And for the politicians and boot lickers in this thread MAD goes two ways. Rule number 1. Don’t provoke your enemy to the point of MAD

Btw look at the graph. Sure looks like nato is as invested in this as the USA. 😂 you pro war clowns are on some Chinese smuggled meth.

 
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Massive truths in this article that are inconvenient for the zelensky/Ukraine sanctimonious boot lickers. Zelensky is a dictator and yes our politicians are cheering for war. Ukraine is no stable democracy. Like I’ve said before it’s Russias little brother.

And for the politicians and boot lickers in this thread MAD goes two ways. Rule number 1. Don’t provoke your enemy to the point of MAD

Btw look at the graph. Sure looks like nato is as invested in this as the USA. 😂 you pro war clowns are on some Chinese smuggled meth.

I'm going to resist an urge and simply post some facts and supported positions. Please, everyone read this entire Wikipedia entry. The important parts are either factual or 1st person statements. I know you love zerohedge but that explains a lot about you. The statement by their writer who just left, Lokey, is eye opening as is ownership of the site.

Just gonna leave this here. No other comments are required.


I will also say that like any site, the info isn't necessarily bad but you do need to understand the mind set and motives of the writers.
 
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You go from smartest guy in the room to suddenly unable to understand what you implied? Zelensky isn’t Churchill. This isn’t 1940. They’re not the same.

War hawk: one who wants unnecessary war.

Anything else you need cleared up?
Speaking as the voice of Czar Vlad.
 
Only way Ukraine/nato can win is to push far into Russia past the Donbas and Crimea. Winning isn’t just pushing the Russians out something that absolutely will not happen.
Ukes upping attacks towards Mariupol threatening Rooskies land bridge to Crimea.
 
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If you have a broader point then feel free to share it.

We give nobody a pass. That’s because we know it has nothing to do with us. Not one of you have explained how Russia threatens NATO by slicing off part of Ukraine.

Here, to wit, are your arguments:

-Russia bad. Yes, this would come under the no shit category.
-Ukraine is a democracy. Laughably untrue.
-Ukraine’s independence must be guaranteed. If so, why haven’t we intervened in every spot where sovereignty is threatened? Why just Ukraine?
-Russia is our enemy. Who the hell says that?
-Russia and others will become aggressive elsewhere if we don’t act. If this were true, why haven’t they already? The truth is that we have alliances in place at nearly every crucial area that force any aggressor to risk nuclear war. It’s called deterrence for a reason.

Feel free to tell me which of these is wrong. I won’t hold my breath. In the meantime, we have been encouraging war instead of seeking peace. Any thinking person should understand the implications of this.
Why just Ukraine is the threat Russia poses beyond Ukraine which isn’t necessarily true elsewhere. Dont waste our time telling us falsely that Vald only wants what he says he has.
 
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I will also say that like any site, the info isn't necessarily bad but you do need to understand the mind set and motives of the writers.

The incentive of the mainstream media is to manufacture consent, give you the illusion of certainty, the illusion of understanding.

It's only natural that alternative views would come from alternative sources, rare independent journalists, people with nothing to lose or otherwise to successful/powerful (Musk) to be silenced, etc...

Truth is always the first casualty in war, as the ancients understood... nothing's changed.
 
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The incentive of the mainstream media is to manufacture consent, give you the illusion of certainty, the illusion of understanding.

It's only natural that alternative views would come from alternative sources, rare independent journalists, people with nothing to lose or otherwise to successful/powerful (Musk) to be silenced, etc...

Truth is always the first casualty in war, as the ancients understood... nothing's changed.
Did you happen to read the link. I think you'd find it interesting as well.
 
I'm going to resist an urge and simply post some facts and supported positions. Please, everyone read this entire Wikipedia entry. The important parts are either factual or 1st person statements. I know you love zerohedge but that explains a lot about you. The statement by their writer who just left, Lokey, is eye opening as is ownership of the site.

Just gonna leave this here. No other comments are required.


I will also say that like any site, the info isn't necessarily bad but you do need to understand the mind set and motives of the writers.
No my man it was on drudge. You know a right leaning news aggregate. I know what zero hedge is and it isn’t Russian or American. You on the other hand read all your news via mainstream US news or tabloid British news. I mean it’s the only place that has pushed this Putin is gonna die or be forced out narrative. Next you’re gonna say Bulgaria isn’t part or nato or shouldn’t be. Newsflash gomer, when you get outside the US and Western Europe there is divergent thinking on the Russia Ukraine topic. Not this homogenous opinion globally. You live in an echo chamber and have no idea of global sentiment. You and your group of one track thinkers. You need an education man because if it doesn’t fit your agenda it’s propoganda. You and your joe McCarthy wanna be over there who gets his news from cab drivers.
 
No my man it was on drudge. You know a right leaning news aggregate. I know what zero hedge is and it isn’t Russian or American. You on the other hand read all your news via mainstream US news or tabloid British news. I mean it’s the only place that has pushed this Putin is gonna die or be forced out narrative. Next you’re gonna say Bulgaria isn’t part or nato or shouldn’t be. Newsflash gomer, when you get outside the US and Western Europe there is divergent thinking on the Russia Ukraine topic. Not this homogenous opinion globally. You live in an echo chamber and have no idea of global sentiment. You and your group of one track thinkers. You need an education man because if it doesn’t fit your agenda it’s propoganda. You and your joe McCarthy wanna be over there who gets his news from cab drivers.
Drudge, oh, that helps. It was actually written by another alt-right nut job, Michael Snyder. You've posted zero hedge before. It is owned by a pro-Russian. That is a fact. Its also a cesspool of innuendo and conspiracy theories.

You can claim whatever you want but it doesn't change facts.
 
Ukrainian Orthodox Church switched Christmas celebration date this year permanently from Jan. to Dec. 25. Ukes want separation from the Czar as much and as far as they can. There's no going back. Ever.
 
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There seem to be a lot of Red Amerikans in this thread. Has anyone asked them why they’re still living in the US?

It’s very easy to emigrate to Russia. They have everything an alt-right white man could want. Well, except the freedom to have as many guns as you want. Russia has very tight restrictions on who owns guns and what type of guns you can own. Dictators don’t want the common man to rise up, I suppose.
Well, it’s degenerated to “support this war or leave.” Unsurprisingly, another non-answer about why we should. But an excellent point about why we should question every dubious thing about it.

BTW, thanks for getting out the point about leftists and the 2A. They absolutely are totalitarians.
 
Drudge, oh, that helps. It was actually written by another alt-right nut job, Michael Snyder. You've posted zero hedge before. It is owned by a pro-Russian. That is a fact. Its also a cesspool of innuendo and conspiracy theories.

You can claim whatever you want but it doesn't change facts.
In your world anyone who doesn’t toe the western propoganda line is pro Russian. Things aren’t so black and white.drudge is an aggregate news site btw that hates the far right and loves it some neo con. I thought you were a conservative? You sound like a mega lib to me. Hunter Biden’s lover
 
Drudge, oh, that helps. It was actually written by another alt-right nut job, Michael Snyder. You've posted zero hedge before. It is owned by a pro-Russian. That is a fact. Its also a cesspool of innuendo and conspiracy theories.

You can claim whatever you want but it doesn't change facts.
That article is backed by facts. If the facts don’t fit your world view you call it propoganda see I have the ability to read everything out there including your British tabloid and you msm news to find the truth. I’m not towing anyone bullshit line like you clowns do. You’re just another brainwashed American who isolated themselves from a total worldview who will have zero understanding of things until you go to some difficult places to find the truth. I on the other hand have lived in 7 different countries in my lifetime. Been to about 50. Still keep in touch with colleagues from my FS days guys who work in intel.
 
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