Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions
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Do you think we are in a better position now than we were when he was in office?
this is coming from someone who thinks you should have served in t he armed forces to be our commander in chief
Trump's dad was first American from the line. Not sure where you are getting 6 generations.
You are responding to someone who is working to get this thread closed. Ignore is the best option.
Are we in better shape now than we were when he was in office?
We’re dealing with the fallout of four years of a disastrous presidency, a global pandemic and about 20 years of a war on terror policy that cost the American people, innocent folks in Iraq and Afghanistan and only enriched the defense contractors.
And this is coming from somone who thinks Joe Biden was never the best answer to weather the storm. Chickens come home to roost
And this is coming from somone who thinks Joe Biden was never the best answer to weather the storm. Chickens come home to roost
Ed has no desire for serious honest discussion. He is a one trick pony and his method is bait and/or attack. He might as well be a simply programmed robot.
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That’s a good illustration actually i think
Helps highlight how a specific conflict often will reverberate and send ripples / waves of change - and often more conflict ....even after the initial causal event is finished
The Greeks/Turks waging war immediately after WW1 is another good example of something major happening - then the major event (WW1) settles ...but another conflict erupts as a direct result (Brits tried using Greek troops to police and repatriate the Turkish Ottoman Empire regions after WW1 — result was a whole new war)
The Boxer rebellion in the early 20th century was another conflict that really stemmed from earlier events (The -9th century Opium Wars under Queen Victoria) as well -
So - point taken regarding Ukraine and this immediate conflict hopefully ending and reaching settlement
Absolutely keep your eyes open for the “secondary waves” that will emerge —
(i’m thinking a potential Balkan conflict or deeper animosity and reciprocating action against Russia as a result of their recent actions )
Anyone who runs for president today is a wannabe dictator. The job is way too powerful to attract anyone besides power hungry narcissists. All the folks who were beside themselves about Trump being a dictator applauded when Biden mandated people getting a vaccine that they admitted didn’t stop infection or spread of a virus.
The Democrats can spare me with the Trump authoritarian outrage when their elected leaders across the country have been more authoritarian than Trump ever was. If Democrats actually worried about authoritarians they wouldn’t be voting for Democrats anymore.
How many bad decisions was trump talked out of? How many laws would he have broken if someone didn’t stop him. He would have been a monster.
I’m not a fan of the Democrats but the day I see a sitting Democratic President order his cult of personality into storming the seat of our democracy to subvert it I’ll buy this both sides bullshit some of ya’ll sling.
The liberals claimed Trump was a liberal before he won the election. They also claimed he would usher us into a war. The fact is liberals made Trump. Conservatives (many) were sick of liberal slanderous attacks without any pushback (see Romney, Bush, Rubio, etc.). Trump capitalized on that by bashing liberals back. Obviously, many conservative voters were starved for that, after being called racists, misogynists, xenophobes, grandma killers, and every other infantile name that we continue to see from progressives today.
Now, had the liberals kissed Trump’s ass after he was elected, they may have achieved a great deal of what they wanted from social liberal perspective. But, they fabricated attacks with the help of a complicit media. And, Trump acted as a relatively conservative president.
Whether the world respected him is irrelevant to some extent. I believe Putin feared that Trump would bully him back if he ventured into the same sort of things we are seeing today. So, he waited for Grandpa Joe who blusters and lies about who he is and everyone knows it.
I don’t give a damn about Trump. I don’t care about the whataboutism with him. You criticize him for being a wannabe dictator, but don’t care about authoritarian policies that have been going on in this country. If Trump mandated everyone get a vaccine or get fired and lose access to participating in society the liberals and media would’ve lost their minds, and they would’ve been right. But they didn’t. Why? Because it was their preferred authoritarian in office running the show.
I think about that relationship a lot -
And it IS complicated...anyone assuming that China and Russia are fast allies b/c they’re both essentially positioning for the Post-USA world - is probably assuming too much bad you suggested
China is committed to their vile form of communist dictatorship to include the concentration camps, forced live organ harvesting and brutal oppression of human dignity and expression
Russia may seem to have Mafia style leadership at times but neither Putin nor his President are communists -
That ultimately means those two entities are destined for conflict
Mao and Marx snd their associated filth do not allow room for ideological diversity or competing economic systems
What was it the Bolsheviks used to say?
You convert to the revolutionary mindset
Or you are “liquidated”
China does seem to feature many of the local attributes that the emerging world system wants to embody and enforce though
So that’s unsettling and foolish
Our capitol should be stormed once an election cycle. Maybe they would stop passing bills that strangle and starve American citizens and pass bills that actually help us
You guys need to speak to the macro economic stuff more often - you seem well enough versed and it’s an important angle to nearly all political issues
Plus it’s an area i want to sharpen up on
Putin feared trump? 😂😂😂he played him. He used him. He flattered him. And it worked.
What is your opinion on what’s going on now in Ukraine?
Do you think Russia and China are fearful or emboldened by the Wests actions.
Who is your guys? How did I respond incorrectly to anything going on in Ukraine?
I forgot to add that Liberals never admit they were wrong. They respond by asking questions like the petulant children that they are.
The American people have been saying this for 100 years. That hasn’t nothing to do with this situation. Every issue doesn’t fall under conservative or liberal fault.
Why is it that everyone has to be placed in a box? I’m responding to you respectfully so you could at least grant me the same curtesy. I’m not a liberal simply because I care more about lives being lost. I also don’t have a hand in any issue across the world. Im simply one person so I don’t really have anything to admit. I didn’t vote for the guy in office. I don’t vote in general.
I don't think I ever said one single word about you. I made my observations on Liberals and you seem to take offense to it.
And I said what does that have to do with me? Which was met with another finger blaming me and inferring that I am a liberal. I understand how this game works I just don’t get why you want to play it.
The slightest critique of any conservative idea here gets you labeled as a "radical leftist" by people on this board. All it takes is correcting someone if they post something factually incorrect. If you corrected a conservative, they'll label you a liberal.
Again, nobody ever addressed you and you are throwing your milk all over the floor. I won't lie, it's comical. Enjoy fighting the fires, lmao.
because he doesn't understand the issues and would rather make stereotypical arguments to change the conversation away from a complex conflict so he can participate
I agree with you on a lot of stuff Ed, but I see no good coming from insulting his followers and could easily make argument that followers of any party are sheep just as easily as pointing at one party or the other.
Biden has continued Trump's:
- Tariffs on China.
- Border policy.
- Afghanistan withdrawal.
Plus the added bonus of:
- It's impossible not to have a different perspective on his NATO withdrawal comments after what Germany and the other EU nations have done proving they are too financially linked to Russia to ever stand up to them.
All of these things were supposed to be terrible when they were done under Trump, but receive no blow back from the left under Biden. If truth matters, then this should matter.
Which is crazy because it negates any positive discourse. Instead we are here like “petulant children” pretending like he didn’t address me as such. It’s childish.
If you say so. And, yet, Putin moved aggressively when Obama was president and now when Biden is president. You have your schtick and you stick to it, but it is hollow.
What are you even saying man? You’re just rambling on. No one is a liberal. Just chill out Jesus Christ.
It’s like that with some Reddit boards I read, but the flip side. If you dare question the efficacy of a flimsy mask they accuse you of being a far right, MAGA, Joe Rogan, neo-nazi cultist. It’s amusing.
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