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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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Huh? I don't think you know the meaning of escalation. It would push R off.
If the Russians start using chemical weapons or small tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, that would certainly be an escalation. They might just do that if their ships start getting sunk by American made anti ship missiles.
 
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A couple of you guys are approaching loon status. Btw, international monitors said the Zelensky election was both fair and free, not to mention the Ukrainian people love him.

The loon is the one responding to a post where I asserted nothing about the legitimacy of Zelensky's election with irrelevant info to said post. Pretty much the definition of lunacy right there. I'll not say more, because you may have in earnest just misread my post.
 
What does this even mean. Trump hasn't been president for more than a year. I fail to see how Russia invading Ukraine has absolutely anything to do with Trump. Putin, while evil, is incredibly brilliant. I highly doubt he'd risk his hopes of reunifying the USSR by invading Ukraine over something to do with a former US president that probably will never be back in power and has no influence whatsoever over long-term US national strategy.

It's lunacy from the group calling others loons.

Russia has basically withdrawn from everywhere in Ukraine but the eastern regions and Crimea. Boris Johnson and Xelensky were walking through a peaceful and pristine downtown in Ukraine with no destruction, fighting, nor sights and or sounds of war. Ukraine and Russia are still corrupt. It still wasn't our war or conflict. We still don't know what really went on there.

Y'all can keep hawking all you want though.
 
The loon is the one responding to a post where I asserted nothing about the legitimacy of Zelensky's election with irrelevant info to said post. Pretty much the definition of lunacy right there. I'll not say more, because you may have in earnest just misread my post.

Zel was at like 20% approval before the invasion.

War is good for ratings in more ways than one.
 
Jewish Nazis. Who knew.

People that have read books. People that know anything about George Soros. ... Jewish people are not immune to hateful ideologies. They are people, too.

Do you know what the Jews did to the Idumeans and others during the years leading up to the Roman occupation of Jerusalem/Judea? Perhaps you may have heard news of how they treated the followers of Jesus in the 1st Century? Trotsky, Marx, any of this sounding familiar?

People of all "races," faiths, nations, etc. Are capable of being fascist, genocidal, hateful, and murderous. Nationalist socialist Jew is not a stretch by any means.
 
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You want that? I don't. I want it to be over with Putin bloodied badly. Sick to drag out for "US interests".
I don't want that either -- but it is the most advantageous possibility for us, just like what happened to the Russians in Afghanistan.
 
Zel was at like 20% approval before the invasion.

War is good for ratings in more ways than one.

Doesn't surprise me since he wasn't following through on his platform and the country was nearly bankrupt, but my post didnt say anything about the election or his approval rating.

War is good for the rich. Rarely is it much good for the poor
 
If the Russians start using chemical weapons or small tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine, that would certainly be an escalation. They might just do that if their ships start getting sunk by American made anti ship missiles.
Those ship-sinking missiles are conventional weapons. Net, not escalation. What you speculate on NOW, non-conventional weapons not mentioned in your previous post, is yes, escalation. But if that's what you meant then, why not say so?
 
People that have read books. People that know anything about George Soros. ... Jewish people are not immune to hateful ideologies. They are people, too.

Do you know what the Jews did to the Idumeans and others during the years leading up to the Roman occupation of Jerusalem/Judea? Perhaps you may have heard news of how they treated the followers of Jesus in the 1st Century? Trotsky, Marx, any of this sounding familiar?

People of all "races," faiths, nations, etc. Are capable of being fascist, genocidal, hateful, and murderous. Nationalist socialist Jew is not a stretch by any means.
Well hang your hat on those beliefs then.
 
I don't want that either -- but it is the most advantageous possibility for us, just like what happened to the Russians in Afghanistan.
I can't believe you're saying that. I'm not looking for US advantage, but apparently you are. jHc.
 
It's still pretty funny that people are clueless about the terms they are using and how they are applied.

If I understand why Russia entered Ukraine, that doesn't make me an enemy of Ukraine. Neither does getting a rager because of dead Russians make one an enemy of Russia. The former means I'm looking at a situation objectively. The latter means that person is a sick fk that doesn't value human life.

If a TV personality tells me to hate Jews or Russians, Ukrainians or Canadians, Christians or Muslims, I turn it off and tune it out. They don't get to direct my hatred simply by challenging my patriotism (or using some other lie or manupulation). I'd prefer that nobody die, but I realize that is unrealistic.

Russia entered this conflict knowing they might lose people. Ukraine knew they would lose people when they refused to cooperate with Russia (stop shelling eastern Ukraine, eliminate biolabs, and stop sanctioning Crimeans), leading to this conflict. If (relatively) Western nations didn't want Russians or Ukrainians to die, they would have mediated a peace, urged Ukraine to close the biolabs, and demanded they stop killing their own citizens in the east.

Pretty simple
 
Show me where I sided with Russia or said they were right. My entire contention is that we need not be involved is this. let Europe handle it. Our leaders are not competent enough and we have our own problems.
You let europe deal with it bc biden has and will continue to f things up as Obama says. Every time biden speaks on the subject or takes some sort of action things get worse. We need to fix our backyard and quit this garbage of looking for war to blow money we don’t have on. 14 billion for Ukraine? Come on. You invest that 14 billion on the border and in Latin America to offset the Chinese and half the problems for the USA are solved.
 
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The loon is the one responding to a post where I asserted nothing about the legitimacy of Zelensky's election with irrelevant info to said post. Pretty much the definition of lunacy right there. I'll not say more, because you may have in earnest just misread my post.
Maybe. Who were you referring to here "corrupt, Ukrainian oligarch's puppet"?
 
What does this even mean. Trump hasn't been president for more than a year. I fail to see how Russia invading Ukraine has absolutely anything to do with Trump. Putin, while evil, is incredibly brilliant. I highly doubt he'd risk his hopes of reunifying the USSR by invading Ukraine over something to do with a former US president that probably will never be back in power and has no influence whatsoever over long-term US national strategy.
Trump tried to extort Zelensky/Ukraine (Impeachment #1). Trump likes Putin…Tucker Carlson and a few other loony right wingers are rooting for Russia. Don’t try to find a logical reason for any of this, it doesn’t exist…other than the war will continue to keep pressure on the oil market, keep prices high and they see that as good for them as they can blame Biden.
 
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It's lunacy from the group calling others loons.

Russia has basically withdrawn from everywhere in Ukraine but the eastern regions and Crimea. Boris Johnson and Xelensky were walking through a peaceful and pristine downtown in Ukraine with no destruction, fighting, nor sights and or sounds of war. Ukraine and Russia are still corrupt. It still wasn't our war or conflict. We still don't know what really went on there.

Y'all can keep hawking all you want though.
We know that Russia attacked a sovereign nation. What else do you need to know?
Hate to break it to you but corruption is common in most nations. We just had an incredible display of corruption surrounding the events of Jan 6. Does that justify some other nation attacking us?
 
It's still pretty funny that people are clueless about the terms they are using and how they are applied.

If I understand why Russia entered Ukraine, that doesn't make me an enemy of Ukraine. Neither does getting a rager because of dead Russians make one an enemy of Russia. The former means I'm looking at a situation objectively. The latter means that person is a sick fk that doesn't value human life.

If a TV personality tells me to hate Jews or Russians, Ukrainians or Canadians, Christians or Muslims, I turn it off and tune it out. They don't get to direct my hatred simply by challenging my patriotism (or using some other lie or manupulation). I'd prefer that nobody die, but I realize that is unrealistic.

Russia entered this conflict knowing they might lose people. Ukraine knew they would lose people when they refused to cooperate with Russia (stop shelling eastern Ukraine, eliminate biolabs, and stop sanctioning Crimeans), leading to this conflict. If (relatively) Western nations didn't want Russians or Ukrainians to die, they would have mediated a peace, urged Ukraine to close the biolabs, and demanded they stop killing their own citizens in the east.

Pretty simple
Pretty ignorant is a much better description of yourself.

Why shouldn't Ukraine be trying to take back it's eastern parts & Crimea? If you deny that being legit, then you don't understand sh!t.

Why the F should U cooperate with occupiers & invaders? Dam you're dense.

And if you think U can mediate with Putin and him not winding up with the whole of U under his thumb you're further ignorant. In fact you don't realize U wants nothing to do with R anymore than the USA does.

You lack rationality.
 
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You let europe deal with it bc biden has and will continue to f things up as Obama says. Every time biden speaks on the subject or takes some sort of action things get worse. We need to fix our backyard and quit this garbage of looking for war to blow money we don’t have on. 14 billion for Ukraine? Come on. You invest that 14 billion on the border and in Latin America to offset the Chinese and half the problems for the USA are solved.
But Biden is not interested in the US border problem. And he may not care what China does to US interests. Net, it's not one or the other.
 
We know that Russia attacked a sovereign nation. What else do you need to know?
Hate to break it to you but corruption is common in most nations. We just had an incredible display of corruption surrounding the events of Jan 6. Does that justify some other nation attacking us?
That person will never believe this isn't all Ukraine's fault. Accept it & move on.
 
People that have read books. People that know anything about George Soros. ... Jewish people are not immune to hateful ideologies. They are people, too.

Do you know what the Jews did to the Idumeans and others during the years leading up to the Roman occupation of Jerusalem/Judea? Perhaps you may have heard news of how they treated the followers of Jesus in the 1st Century? Trotsky, Marx, any of this sounding familiar?

People of all "races," faiths, nations, etc. Are capable of being fascist, genocidal, hateful, and murderous. Nationalist socialist Jew is not a stretch by any means.
Italy was fascist too but weren't anti jewish. Ukraine appears to be ultra pro Ukraine and anti Russia and kinda anti Poland. People are too caught up on the jewish aspect. Kolomoisky is jewish and is the biggest funder of AZOV.
 
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