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Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

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Guess its not very smart to dig trenches in a contamination zone. who could have guessed!?
Strong man huh? lol

Hiring military or political sycophants while firing or jailing the experts who don't kiss your ass all day long, may not be the best strategy in war or peace.
 
BS and a no fly zone doesn't require boots on the ground. You do understand the fly part, right? What the American public wants isn't relevant anyway, we certainly don't make military decisions based on polls. Azov never had 15000 men and they haven't had 9000 killed. You're welcome to prove me wrong.
So when we shoot down a Russian plane.... what happens? Jet on jet, and we shoot down their plane. Can you think more than one move ahead?
 


German story on Chechen's in Ukraine. Propaganda goes both ways. During one point Kadyrov can be heard saying that he hasn't had a death or injury in his entire division.... then you can see him in a hospital visiting wounded troops. Both sides are lying.
 
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Negotiate what? Accept that we have a third of your country & will come back for the rest later? And you'd believe Putin? LMAO.
I thought people were lying about Russia controlling that much of Ukraine? I thought Russia only had a few cities on the border?

Now I'm confused.
 
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I don’t get why people are hoping these things aren’t true. It’s like you have confirmation bias AGAINST the news that Russia’s not doing well. Isn’t that what we want?

Anyone paying attention knew the laptop wasn't Russian disinformation, that the media was lying to you.

They're lying to you now too. They're always lying to you.
 
So when we shoot down a Russian plane.... what happens? Jet on jet, and we shoot down their plane. Can you think more than one move ahead?
Can you please read better. I said we have no intention of creating a no fly zone. Again, our military isn't controlled by polls.
 
Can you please read better. I said we have no intention of creating a no fly zone. Again, our military isn't controlled by polls.
Proving you can't see more than one step ahead. I bet your a decent checker player but I'd love to watch you play chess. LOL
 
Perhaps we can play one day. That was a sad rebuttal but you make a habit of that.
I'd love to. I just hope you'd be respectful instead of just calling me a traitor and putin puppet. Free speech and all. We should be able to have different opinions on the start of ww3 shouldn't we?
 
I'd love to. I just hope you'd be respectful instead of just calling me a traitor and putin puppet. Free speech and all. We should be able to have different opinions on the start of ww3 shouldn't we?
Yes. I like vigorous debate. I dont think I've called you either thing but I can be terribly blunt.
 
Yes. I like vigorous debate. I dont think I've called you either thing but I can be terribly blunt.
Oh hey. What happens if Russia cuts off all natural gas to Ukraine and Europe tomorrow? And yes. Ukraine is getting Nat Gas from Russia during this invasion.... Weird right?
 
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Would you say there are 2 or 3 Russian pipelines going through Ukraine? Maybe 4? Hard to say. Just a lot of Russian gas pumping through that area. You'd think Zelensky would just cut it off to hurt Russia. I mean.... that is Russia's single biggest money maker. Ukraine could cut Russias income in half just by shutting off those pipelines.
 
Oh hey. What happens if Russia cuts off all natural gas to Ukraine and Europe tomorrow? And yes. Ukraine is getting Nat Gas from Russia during this invasion.... Weird right?
Then Russia loses huge amounts of money they desperately need.
 
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Would you say there are 2 or 3 Russian pipelines going through Ukraine? Maybe 4? Hard to say. Just a lot of Russian gas pumping through that area. You'd think Zelensky would just cut it off to hurt Russia. I mean.... that is Russia's single biggest money maker. Ukraine could cut Russias income in half just by shutting off those pipelines.
Ukraine desperately needs the rent revenue. It is a weird situation.
 
According to reports, Nuland played a significant role in the 2014 Maidan 'revolution' of Ukraine. There are leaked audio recordings of her conversation with then US ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt which indicate that the US (and Nuland) was directly involved in this 2014 'revolution'.

People also ask
Who is Victoria Nuland and what did she do?
Victoria Nuland is now the US Deputy Secretary of State. It is a pretty important job for someone responsible for the deaths of 13,000 people in Ukraine, including 38 policemen killed during the Euromaidan. After all, she was responsible for the violent coup which ousted President Yanukovych.

euvsdisinfo.eu/report/victoria-nuland-caused-13000-death…
 
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How much gas does Ukraine import from Russia? In 2018 the Arbitration Institute of the Stockholm Chamber of Commerce ordered that Ukraine's Naftogaz should import 5 billion cubic meters of gas annually from Russia, as required under its 2009 contract with Russia's Gazprom.. Click to see full answer.

If you guys want to get pissed then look up gas prices in opec countries right now. Russian's are paying less than we are.
 
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Then Russia loses huge amounts of money they desperately need.
Or they sell it all to China and India.... You remember that Biden pissed off India and now they are Neutral on this invasion and are actually aligning with China? Weird right? Trump had India on our side against China. Well it took Biden about 14 months to solidfy India as a Chinese ally.

You guys should pray everything stops because the big guy is gonna keep making things worse for us (flyover country people). A Russian woman paid Hunter Biden millions of $$$. Guess who didn't end up on the list of Oligarchs to be sanctioned? That's weird right?

The people in charge now will fVck things up worse than they can ever hope to fix it. Best case scenario to is to give Ukraine totally over to Russia if it prevent Biden from making decisions on this mess.
 
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Or they sell it all to China and India.... You remember that Biden pissed off India and now they are Neutral on this invasion and are actually aligning with China? Weird right? Trump had India on our side against China. Well it took Biden about 14 months to solidfy India as a Chinese ally.

You guys should pray everything stops because the big guy is gonna keep making things worse for us (flyover country people). A Russian woman paid Hunter Biden millions of $$$. Guess who didn't end up on the list of Oligarchs to be sanctioned? That's weird right?

The people in charge now will fVck things up worse than they can ever hope to fix it. Best case scenario to give Ukraine totally over to Russia if it prevent Biden from making decisions on this mess.
China has already said it can't take the excess. I dont know about India but they certainly don't have the infrastructure for it.
 
So we could just give Ukraine money and not weapons and end this? And you think Russia is still paying Ukraine during the invasion?


Dude!!!!
Yes, it has been reported that Russia is paying them. Its a delicate situation that both parties need to continue.
 
China has already said it can't take the excess. I dont know about India but they certainly don't have the infrastructure for it.
Where do you think the Nat Gas we are moving to Europe is coming from? We aren't producing more. We are moving exports to Europe. We are firmly making India a Chinese ally.,,,, They were having border disputes with deaths just a few years ago and it took Biden just over a year to get them aligned against us. Normally that would be seen as a huge geopolitical blunder.... but we are post Trump.... so now we just accept everything as good because Trump isn't in office.

Enjoy food and fuel prices this summer dude. Let them blame it on Putin but this was coming regardless. The reason they are making this a global thing is to shift blame.

We could ramp up production of nat gas and we could get fertilizer from Canada but the enviro's won't let us... so just accept the suck. We are going to have food shortages this year because we have an incompetent leader at a time that half the world hates us due to "world building".

I want you to know that when the economic shitstorm coming, actually arrives... It was predictable.
 
Yes, it has been reported that Russia is paying them. Its a delicate situation that both parties need to continue.
So you think Russia is sending out checks to a government that they are actively killing the hell out of?
 
Ukraine snuck 2 helicopters into Russia this morning and blew up a large fuel depot. I assume the Ukrainians retaking Sumy allowed this to happen.


 
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So you think Russia is sending out checks to a government that they are actively killing the hell out of?
Russia depends on the Ukraine gas lines so yes they are sending the checks. 30% of its gas exports go through Ukraine, that's a few $billion a day. Without those lines they have to use tankers to move the gas to Europe. oh, the tankers are currently banned from EU ports! see how that works? Russia is probably paying even more now to Ukraine to keep the gas flowing. The best part is Russia has to pay Ukraine in Dollars and Euros. Though I do believe there were repots yesterday that one of the pipelines was accidentally hit by Russian MRLS fire.

 
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Would you say there are 2 or 3 Russian pipelines going through Ukraine? Maybe 4? Hard to say. Just a lot of Russian gas pumping through that area. You'd think Zelensky would just cut it off to hurt Russia. I mean.... that is Russia's single biggest money maker. Ukraine could cut Russias income in half just by shutting off those pipelines.
Speaking of pipelines, have any of you heard about this one???

 
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