Russia - Ukraine WAR Warning: Political Discussions

[Girthang]

When somebody attacks your family you don't start discussing everything that is wrong with your family that was attacked. Same for your country. Our troops are forward across Europe now to contain Putin, I believe it is wrong to provide aid and comfort to Putin by peddling in Russian propaganda about Ukraine.

There was a time when men understood such things but unfortunately now a man must wade through considerable slime... the path of the righteous man is beset on all sides, if you will.

Ukrainians are brave fighters to be admired. The 100G Joe is bringing in are welcome in my neighborhood any time.

If someone brings charges against someone, and those charges are true, they pay the penalty, even if they are family. You help them get through the punishment, but you don't do something immoral to get them off the hook on which they put themselves. Unless morals aren't important to you, of course, and then you help hide the evidence.

No one here is giving comfort to anyone, except those repeating the same stupidity you just regurgitated. Russia is our enemy. Ukraine is our enemy. Every country with a different territory, army, and different constitution is our enemy.

Nato/uN both have different laws and courts, in which YOU have NO rights guaranteed to you like you do in the constitution. DO YOU KNOW THAT?!

History, dammit! Read a fkn book or 50.

 

[Girthang]

You simply cannot equate our free press, warts and all, to Russia and China. Digest that, maybe.

This is the Babylon Bee headline of the day. LmAo!

You say you can't imagine, but it only seems that way because you're in a fkn dreamworld of their creation. China OWNS a good deal of our media. Russia owns a good deal of our politicians (through "3rd party" corporations) or they wouldn't be able to buy Uranium from/through our own state dept without members of said dept being hung for treason.

You just don't get it. They were given the green light BY LAW to lie to the American people by the Obama administration and the Congress of that time. Look.it.up.puppet

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

So Nazis are all good now? Left wingers calling Trump supporters Nazis for 4 yrs and beyond and now Nazis are ok.

I didn't see that one coming

My point was that there aren't many of them and I'm not to certain of their fanaticism when they voluntarily fight with Jews.

 

[gobigbluebell]

I think Washington and the media are going to have a difficult time selling the public on funding this war for the next few years, much less decades like they want to. That’s why they’re already saying junk like “Putin likely to use chemical weapons (on women and children!!??”. Russia cyber hackers are going to take us down, for sure.

I just feel like both sides of the public aisle are sick and tired of that crap. Billions a week. To Ukraine. GFY, Washington.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

My point was that there aren't many of them and I'm not to certain of their fanaticism when they voluntarily fight with Jews.

 

[OHIO COLONEL]

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There's a 1000 just in that video.

 

[Warrior Poet31]

America achieved its most important goals in the Ukraine war and subjugated Europe.

Written by - Elijah J. Magnier: The Belgian European capital has hosted an important summit chaired by US President Joe Biden, which included his European counterparts in NATO in a security meeting that will determine the fate of the European continent and its defence lines. It affirms America’s...

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[Baron Mowbray]

History, dammit! Read a fkn book or 50.

LOL. Condescension from the history "buff" or more appropriately "buff-alo chip." I don't know why you're so long winded in being wrong about everything you talk about. You'd think less wordy lies would be more effective. I also don't recommend you brag about not even knowing the definition of "enemy" but that's just me. Read a book, indeed. I think you might be better served by the books on tape version over the loudspeaker in between your 8am and 1pm doses.

 

[Gassy_Knowls]

There's a 1000 just in that video.

When is Joe Biden going to denounce the neo Nazis in Ukraine that he is funding? Why won't he denounce his support for Nazis? Joe Biden thinks Azov army are very fine people

 

[AustinTXCat]

Russia released new casualty figures.

 

[Bill Derington]

Doesn't even feel like they need to try and hide the blatant Russia propaganda now. Right out in the open. Just posting like no big deal. Wow.

You posted it...

 

[Baron Mowbray]

You posted it...

You mean quoted it, Bill? You could have added "and I agree that is blatant Russian propaganda and should be removed as it makes me sick" but I guess you had to catch a meeting.

 

[Warrior Poet31]

Everything I don't like is Russian propaganda.

 

[Bill Derington]

You mean quoted it, Bill? You could have added "and I agree that is blatant Russian propaganda and should be removed as it makes me sick" but I guess you had to catch a meeting.

Why should it be removed? Don't you believe in the free interchange of opposing ideas? We aren't at war with Russia, and we didn't abide by our word when we convinced Ukraine to relinquish nukes.

Don't you trust people to come to their own conclusion, or if they don't come to one you like then they must be silenced? You almost sound like a....fascist. Now, I don't believe you are, and I don't believe the US was going to launch a preemptive biological attack, but I do believe they were in on some biolabs in UKraine, because Nuuland admitted it under oath.

 

[Dubya C Dubya]

You mean quoted it, Bill? You could have added "and I agree that is blatant Russian propaganda and should be removed as it makes me sick" but I guess you had to catch a meeting.

You haven’t put him and some others on ignore yet??

 

[Platinumdrgn]

If someone brings charges against someone, and those charges are true, they pay the penalty, even if they are family. You help them get through the punishment, but you don't do something immoral to get them off the hook on which they put themselves. Unless morals aren't important to you, of course, and then you help hide the evidence.

No one here is giving comfort to anyone, except those repeating the same stupidity you just regurgitated. Russia is our enemy. Ukraine is our enemy. Every country with a different territory, army, and different constitution is our enemy.

Nato/uN both have different laws and courts, in which YOU have NO rights guaranteed to you like you do in the constitution. DO YOU KNOW THAT?!

History, dammit! Read a fkn book or 50.

everyone that doesn't do everything the same as us is our enemy? God your stupid. A little Hilter

 

[AustinTXCat]

Reported by Sky News defense editor. RUS morale must really be in the shitter by now.

 

[SDC888]

Politics in that part of the world is a lot more complicated than you people realize.

But yeah, you saw that documentary once and read a few op/ed articles in the NYT and the WSJ. They hate us for our freedoms.

ONly thing actually happening here is ruining millions of lives for profit and geopolitical gain, death and destruction with complete fools trying to make this into politically advantageous domestic issue, a smokescreen fro mthe total chitshow that is these corrupt and incompetent morons running the show.

 

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[Baron Mowbray]

Why should it be removed? Don't you believe in the free interchange of opposing ideas? We aren't at war with Russia, and we didn't abide by our word when we convinced Ukraine to relinquish nukes.

Don't you trust people to come to their own conclusion, or if they don't come to one you like then they must be silenced? You almost sound like a....fascist. Now, I don't believe you are, and I don't believe the US was going to launch a preemptive biological attack, but I do believe they were in on some biolabs in UKraine, because Nuuland admitted it under oath.

If the shooting starts between us and the Russians, how do you take your posts back... or would you even want to?

Look, basically with only a couple of exceptions everyone in my family served or is serving. I've had family in every war since forever as far back as we can trace. I joined at 18 when my mom offered me a car to stay home and go directly to college instead. Wasn't going to happen.

I feel that the war is already on because we've sent our troops into harms way in Poland and other places where at night our soldiers, many of them, are probably having restless nights for what may come. The last thing on earth I think is right is to carry water for the Russians. You can whitewash that any way you want to, but the time for picking sides has already passed IMO, and also IMO we both already made our choice for where we stand. Keep attacking Ukraine just like Putin is doing. Keep making the Russian cause look just. Also have a peek at the company you keep because from where I am from those decisions are permanent. No do-overs on this one. You've cast your lot, partner.

 

[Baron Mowbray]

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I wish God would grant me the strength one last time to rise up and go over there and fight those cowardly Russian bastards even if I was killed with the first shot as soon as I got off the boat. I don't know as a country how much of this we are supposed to just sit back and take? How many atrocities and war crimes has to happen before we say enough is enough and kick these civilian murdering vodka drinking fur hatted non-logistical understanding SOBs all the way back to Siberia?

 

[Canned Heat]

 

[Bill Derington]

If the shooting starts between us and the Russians, how do you take your posts back... or would you even want to?

Look, basically with only a couple of exceptions everyone in my family served or is serving. I've had family in every war since forever as far back as we can trace. I joined at 18 when my mom offered me a car to stay home and go directly to college instead. Wasn't going to happen.

I feel that the war is already on because we've sent our troops into harms way in Poland and other places where at night our soldiers, many of them, are probably having restless nights for what may come. The last thing on earth I think is right is to carry water for the Russians. You can whitewash that any way you want to, but the time for picking sides has already passed IMO, and also IMO we both already made our choice for where we stand. Keep attacking Ukraine just like Putin is doing. Keep making the Russian cause look just. Also have a peek at the company you keep because from where I am from those decisions are permanent. No do-overs on this one. You've cast your lot, partner.

What posts should I take back? If a war starts between us and the Russians then the entire conversation changes.
You can feel whatever you like, that doesn't make it reality.

 

[Canned Heat]

 

[Warrior Poet31]

If the shooting starts between us and the Russians, how do you take your posts back... or would you even want to?

Look, basically with only a couple of exceptions everyone in my family served or is serving. I've had family in every war since forever as far back as we can trace. I joined at 18 when my mom offered me a car to stay home and go directly to college instead. Wasn't going to happen.

I feel that the war is already on because we've sent our troops into harms way in Poland and other places where at night our soldiers, many of them, are probably having restless nights for what may come. The last thing on earth I think is right is to carry water for the Russians. You can whitewash that any way you want to, but the time for picking sides has already passed IMO, and also IMO we both already made our choice for where we stand. Keep attacking Ukraine just like Putin is doing. Keep making the Russian cause look just. Also have a peek at the company you keep because from where I am from those decisions are permanent. No do-overs on this one. You've cast your lot, partner.

How much culpability does the U.S. government hold for basically using Ukraine to goad Russia into this war?

 

[CastleRubric]

I think Washington and the media are going to have a difficult time selling the public on funding this war for the next few years, much less decades like they want to. That’s why they’re already saying junk like “Putin likely to use chemical weapons (on women and children!!??”. Russia cyber hackers are going to take us down, for sure.

I just feel like both sides of the public aisle are sick and tired of that crap. Billions a week. To Ukraine. GFY, Washington.

i mean hell ...if we can afford SIX secret service agents accompanying HUNTER BIDENS GAL ...to a South American summit on starfish.:..

what’s a billion more or six here or there , right ?


Plus - there are other ways to ensure war gets what war wants unfortunately

 

[dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane]

 

[dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane]

So if NATO is going into a active war zone with boots on the ground for a “exceptional humanitarian operation". That could lead to a article 5.

 

[Canned Heat]

 

[Baron Mowbray]

I think Putin is seriously considering a chemical attack then try to hang it on the US and Ukraine which is why they've been pumping out all that propaganda about the US Chem labs in Ukraine which of course is still being posted in this thread left and right by the usual suspects.

I can't imagine what the world reaction would be? There's no way we allow that to stand, but at this point all Putin has is to dig in for as much as he can try to hold in the East then do something drastic to break Zelensky. Could Putin once again wildly miscalculate and be delusional enough to think a chemical attack in Kyiv could break Zelensky into giving up Eastern Ukraine because that is as insane as his entire original hairbrained poorly planned and executed scheme was? Maybe he thinks he can kill Zelensky and most of his gov with a chem strike? That seems very unlikely since if they didn't have the medical and physical countermeasures for a chemical attack then surely we would have supplied them with it a hundred fold by now.

 

[Warrior Poet31]

The U.S. funded biolabs in Ukraine are a stone cold fact. End of discussion.

 

[Girthang]

everyone that doesn't do everything the same as us is our enemy? God your stupid. A little Hilter

Hope your foot tastes good genius

 

[Girthang]

I think Putin is seriously considering a chemical attack then try to hang it on the US and Ukraine which is why they've been pumping out all that propaganda about the US Chem labs in Ukraine which of course is still being posted in this thread left and right by the usual suspects.

I can't imagine what the world reaction would be? There's no way we allow that to stand, but at this point all Putin has is to dig in for as much as he can try to hold in the East then do something drastic to break Zelensky. Could Putin once again wildly miscalculate and be delusional enough to think a chemical attack in Kyiv could break Zelensky into giving up Eastern Ukraine because that is as insane as his entire original hairbrained poorly planned and executed scheme was? Maybe he thinks he can kill Zelensky and most of his gov with a chem strike? That seems very unlikely since if they didn't have the medical and physical countermeasures for a chemical attack then surely we would have supplied them with it a hundred fold by now.

No. He probably isn't. He very likely knows he has to get out of Ukraine before they UA and/or nato stage such an attack and blame Russia for it.

 

[vhcat70]

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As many as they've fired, 40% success is one hell of a lot of success.

 

[vhcat70]

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Doesn't look like U has a sand shortage.

 

[vhcat70]

Zelensky has banned opposition parties from government. He has banned negative media. He's conscripting men to fight that don't want to fight. He's aligned himself with a nazi party.... Please tell me how, as Americans, this is who we are supposed to think is the good guy?

This isn't Poland and it isn't Taiwan. This is Saddam in the 80's all over again. Remember when we backed Saddam before we figured out he was a corrupt thug?

How is conscription any different than a draft that the US has used over & over?

 

[vhcat70]

This isn't Poland and it isn't Taiwan. This is Saddam in the 80's all over again. Remember when we backed Saddam before we figured out he was a corrupt thug?

FALSE.

 

[vhcat70]

You're right. And Ukraine is just as awful.

I will never support a Biden/Soros/Obama puppet state. Ukraine can burn in Hell.

FALSE. BTW, how's that water Putin took from Ukraine for Crimea doing?