I do like the WSJ as well. You gotta admit she sure as hell didn't look or sound as dumb as Trump said she was.
Trump's fans are baked in.
Kamala's fans are baked in.
She may have moved the needle on independents tonight.
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Trump's fans are baked in.
Kamala's fans are baked in.
She may have moved the needle on independents tonight.
Not sure what she thinks she is pulling. Conservatives know she is fos, and liberals will think she is turning maga.
She not only showed she belonged. She was better. Trump looked like an old man sundowning. Shouting at clouds as the Simpsons joke goes.
If you want what’s best for this country, you run as far away from democrats as possible. If that means running into Trump’s arms, then so be it. Deal with it for 4 year, then hope you get DeSantis or Vivek
HRC didn't incite a riot to try to prevent it. That's the parallel. The sitting president conspired to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. That doesn't sink in, does it? Kevlar. hell. MAGAt skulls.
Trump on Hannity now saying it was his best debate ever. There’s the problem right there. No matter how anybody thinks he did, he could have done much better.
Hopefully someone he respects can talk to him, maybe Don Junior
Hopefully someone he respects can talk to him, maybe Don Junior
The whole GOP campaign was geared for that. Now, you got a candidate who is even older than Biden was 4 years ago. And talks 4 years older than Biden now.
The coin flip gave him 7 minutes more time? The coin flip let him scream so loud he bled into the other microphones?
I want that coin.
She’s claimed Trump stole the election from her multiple times. Even had some friends create a fake spy dossier in an attempt to frame him. But Trump said go peacefully and patriotically to the capitol and make your voices heard. You’re not fooling anyone Levibooty.
Those saying Kamala won the debate must have had their TV on mute for an hour and a half. She brought up Project 2025 multiple times. She brought up the fine people hoax for crying out loud. And then claimed she is a gun owner 😂 😂 😂 😂.
Did Trump do amazing? No. But he clearly was the winner tonight. And he did it 1 v 3. He also didn't know the questions for probably God only knows how long in advance like Kamala did.
Did Trump do amazing? No. But he clearly was the winner tonight. And he did it 1 v 3. He also didn't know the questions for probably God only knows how long in advance like Kamala did.
Can someone that Lox hasn't ignored tell him to lay down, with his feet elevated, before he has a stroke?
You clearly didn't know about the coin toss until this thread, and so now you're doubling down by moving away from that talking point you made and focusing on the talking time.
Meanwhile, the whole debate was 3 on 1. It's hilarious that you're actually trying to make an argument that Trump had some type of advantage in this debate. Absolutely mind-bogglingly hilarious that you, or any human the planet, could argue that.
Yet here you are. Arguing exactly that, while losing all credibility.
They're treading water, in the middle of the ocean, and will grab at anything now.
No, he didn’t say that, he correctly stated what the former Governor of Virginia stated. That if a baby was born alive after a failed abortion then the dr and mother could have a discussion on what to do.
It confuses me because some people on our side are even saying it. I don't think they watched the same debate I did. Trump did to Kamala what USC did to UK in football this past Saturday. It wasn't pretty at times...but it was a decisive win.
I think Trump isn't as good in the debates as he was back in 2016.
I think Harris is smarter than a guy with dementia, so that makes her perform much better than Biden.
The issues are what I care about. As long as Trump stands firm against immigration and having tariffs on foreign countries I'm in.
I think Harris is smarter than a guy with dementia, so that makes her perform much better than Biden.
The issues are what I care about. As long as Trump stands firm against immigration and having tariffs on foreign countries I'm in.
Because Kamala didn't come across as the stammering idiot that they see in edited youtube videos. That's pretty much it.
Trump hammered her on immigration and the economy, and didn't take the bait, which is what everyone said he needed to do. So yeah, I don't get it. His campaign is getting traction, he's leading (by a lot more than you might think), and he just needs to get back out on the campaign trail, which is REALLY where he makes hay anyway. And bring it home. If Kamala had been winning, there is no way they even DO this debate. Her even agreeing to this was like pulling your goalie in the last few mintues of a game when you're down. No, Trump didn't score an empty netter, but he still won.
And there's a whole lotta complaining here tonight.
Well, the Supreme Court, in this country are essentially the "ultimate refs", and the left will not quit whining about them, so...
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The voters will let us know who won the debate. If Kamala can pick up 4 points in the National Average in the next week then SHE did. If not, then she didn't. It's as simple as that.
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The voters will let us know who won the debate. If Kamala can pick up 4 points in the National Average in the next week then SHE did. If not, then she didn't. It's as simple as that.
I’m seeing many in the Trump camp disappointed with his showing tonight as was I. I’m not going to say she won the debate but IMO he didn’t either. It was a draw of futility from different perspectives. Her with her lies and Trump with his unnecessary ramblings. Both did a great job of rarely answering the question that was posed of them, Trump had his opportunity to say why he killed their border bill but instead just started rambling about how many millions and millions of illegal immigrants came in under her watch. Not that anything wrong with that but he had already hammered that point previously, just answer the damn question then hammer again on the invasion. He also spent entirely too much time talking about Joe Biden this and Joe Biden That. Sorry but I was just really frustrated with him tonight. I expected more from him and while she didn’t do great either I expected less from her.
This is what's creepy about the Trump cult. In screwduke's mind, Trump has won every debate and every election and he can't comprehend otherwise. Christ, don't allow yourself to be that dug in. It's honestly sad.
The elements of the coin toss didn't grant someone extra time.
Sorry that you and Orban backed Trump.
You know what is ALSO extremely cultish behavior? Obsessing about Trump voters' behavior. 😄 😄
In a way, it's even weirder...
In a way, it's even weirder...
She tells dozens of lies and this how they respond of course.
Funny thing is the guy on the right was CNN's chief 'fact-checker' during the Trump presidency. When Biden became president they got away from him for years and he basically quit twitter and his daily fact checks of the president (they don't even pretend to employ fact-checkers when a Democrat is president).
Brought his b-tch ass and his lying routine back for the this campaign. He looks like he would be president of his local 'white dudes for Harris' club.
Funny thing is the guy on the right was CNN's chief 'fact-checker' during the Trump presidency. When Biden became president they got away from him for years and he basically quit twitter and his daily fact checks of the president (they don't even pretend to employ fact-checkers when a Democrat is president).
Brought his b-tch ass and his lying routine back for the this campaign. He looks like he would be president of his local 'white dudes for Harris' club.
Don't sweat it. The LAST thing that matter to voters are FACTS. The border and their wallets are the facts that they can see and feel in their everyday life. And they know who is responsible for that.
Also, nobody cares about CNN. They're essentially AMTRAK or the USPS now.
Also, nobody cares about CNN. They're essentially AMTRAK or the USPS now.
If you have a problem with how the debate was fact checked then show us how many times you think Harris lied and what those lies were and let's compare them with Trump's. One of them said immigrants are eating people's dogs and cats. Let's be real here.She tells dozens of lies and this how they respond of course.
Funny thing is the guy on the right was CNN's chief 'fact-checker' during the Trump presidency. When Biden became president they got away from him for years and he basically quit twitter and his daily fact checks of the president (they don't even pretend to employ fact-checkers when a Democrat is president).
Brought his b-tch ass and his lying routine back for the this campaign. He looks like he would be president of his local 'white dudes for Harris' club.
I can almost guarantee you, that at some point, an illegal immigrant in this country, has eaten a domestic animal.
Fact Check : True
Fact Check : True
They’re claiming they want another debate. That doesn’t suggest they thot they won. You KNOW it won’t be on Fox if there is one.
Since Trump took the bait so often maybe they think they can do it again. Maybe someone can get through to him. Actually a number of us on here could debate better.
Here’s a sample.
Yes David there is something I’d do different about Jan 6. I would have addressed the public from the Oval Office on Jan 5th letting them know I’d recommended to Speaker Pelosi that I’d provide 10000 national guardsmen to ensure there’s be no issues the next day … and she refused. That’s what I’d do differently.
Disappointed Harris didn't hammer Trump for brining up how much he loves Orban. Orban is a dictator. He turned Hungary into the first non democracy in the EU. Having Orban endorse Trump is absolutely not a win for Trump, despite him thinking it is.
Trump cozies up to Putin, he literally salutes Kim Jong Un, and he loves Orban. These are not the allies the President of the United States should be having.
Kamala said she was never opposed to fracking.
Fact Check: False
Fact Check: False
Surely you know that's not how fact checks work. What happened to "facts don't care about your feelings"?
Kamala said Trump was wrong, that late term abortions/unlimited abortions are legal in some places.
Minnesota has no restrictions on abortions, including any limit on how late they can be performed.
Fact Check: False
Minnesota has no restrictions on abortions, including any limit on how late they can be performed.
Fact Check: False
If you have a problem with my fact checking, then prove me wrong.
He didn't do very well. Lost the debate.
But we learned nothing new about her so she did nothing to help herself.
