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I don't look at polls at all. Zero. Especially considering there's 2.5 months left and we have two of the worst candidates who've ever ran for a democratically elected office in the world.

That being said. You all sound exactly like you sounded in the months leading up to the last election. All the polls showing Obama winning were wrong, and Romney was really going to win because of the likely voters, skewed polls, etc.

It's like deja vu.
 
I don't look at polls at all. Zero. Especially considering there's 2.5 months left and we have two of the worst candidates who've ever ran for a democratically elected office in the world.

That being said. You all sound exactly like you sounded in the months leading up to the last election. All the polls showing Obama winning were wrong, and Romney was really going to win because of the likely voters, skewed polls, etc.

It's like deja vu.
With all due respect, you sound exactly like the "experts" on Brexit.
 
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Good article here in response to Howard Kurtz "wow, the media is really being unfair to Trump, this is all new and dangerous territory!" The writer recounts some history for Howard, and shows that Rs are always on the receiving end of "unfair coverage". Here is Howard's epiphany:

“The media’s legions of Trump-bashers are finally acknowledging the obvious. And trying their best to justify it. But there’s one problem: Tilting against one candidate in a presidential election can’t be justified. This is not a defense of Donald Trump, who has been at war with much of the press since he got in the race. Too many people think if you criticize the way the billionaire is being covered, you are somehow backing Trump. And it’s not about the commentators, on the right as well as the left, who are savaging Trump, since they are paid for their opinions. This is about the mainstream media’s reporters, editors and producers, whose credo is supposed to be fairness. And now some of them are flat-out making the case for unfairness—an unprecedented approach for an unprecedented campaign. Put aside, for the moment, the longstanding complaints about journalists being unfair to Republicans. They never treated Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush or Bob Dole like this. Keep in mind that the media utterly misjudged Trump from the start, covering him as a joke or a sideshow or a streaking comet that would burn itself out. Many of them later confessed how wrong they had been, and that they had missed the magnitude of the anger and frustration that fueled Trump’s unlikely rise.”

http://observer.com/2016/08/a-history-lesson-for-howard-kurtz-campaign-credo-was-lost-long-ago/

Which only helps trump get voters in the booth.

Shit trump had all kinds of media related folk in his camp. He "fired" one and sent him to work for CNN, ffs. That was genius. Then, he hired fn Breitbart. Wtf are dems doing. That's their shit. They should have picked a cool candidate to follow cool Barry. They could take some robot clown like Rubio or Ryan and wax trump.
 
Since our buddies on the right always ask about what the gov't does better than private business...looks like the gov't will stop using private prisons to house federal imates.

Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates announced the decision on Thursday in a memo that instructs officials to either decline to renew the contracts for private prison operators when they expire or “substantially reduce” the contracts’ scope. The goal, Yates wrote, is “reducing — and ultimately ending — our use of privately operated prisons.”

“They simply do not provide the same level of correctional services, programs, and resources; they do not save substantially on costs; and as noted in a recent report by the Department’s Office of Inspector General, they do not maintain the same level of safety and security,” Yates wrote.


I am sure you will more than likely dismiss this, but that is to be expected.

Was the graph not posted yesterday showing the industries that have heavy government involvement have soaring prices and inefficiencies?

Why does this surprise you?
 
Soros Paid Al Gore MILLIONS To Push ‘Aggressive US Action’ On Global Warming

And then he flipped his leftist fringe cable news channel to a gulf oil tyrant. Liberal hypocracy is always a beautiful thing.

I don't look at polls at all. Zero. Especially considering there's 2.5 months left and we have two of the worst candidates who've ever ran for a democratically elected office in the world.

That being said. You all sound exactly like you sounded in the months leading up to the last election. All the polls showing Obama winning were wrong, and Romney was really going to win because of the likely voters, skewed polls, etc.

It's like deja vu.

agree, claiming the polls are biased & trump isnt losing is a pretty stupid strategery. assume they are correct, because they probably are, and fix your touching campaign to where you aren't losing. oh, and some negative attack ads against your opponent might help. a little.

also wish everyone on Team Right would shut up about these Hillary health issues. it seems pathetic too me, as if she is some fantastic perfect juggernaut candidate but some are trying to say she shouldnt be pres because of her health. her physical condition is the last touching reason anyone should refer too when explaining why she should not be POTUS.
 
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I don't look at polls at all. Zero. Especially considering there's 2.5 months left and we have two of the worst candidates who've ever ran for a democratically elected office in the world.

That being said. You all sound exactly like you sounded in the months leading up to the last election. All the polls showing Obama winning were wrong, and Romney was really going to win because of the likely voters, skewed polls, etc.

It's like deja vu.

I didn't think that or say that. I know how hard it is to beat an incumbent especially one like Obama who is the messiah to the media. I thought Romney waxed him in the first debate and then it went all downhill after that.

Romney was the stereotype of what the libs said about Republicans. They focused on his money, his religion, how he once cut a guy's hair in high school, etc.

Clinton is way more flawed than what Obama was considered in 2012.
 
Since our buddies on the right always ask about what the gov't does better than private business...looks like the gov't will stop using private prisons to house federal imates.

Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates announced the decision on Thursday in a memo that instructs officials to either decline to renew the contracts for private prison operators when they expire or “substantially reduce” the contracts’ scope. The goal, Yates wrote, is “reducing — and ultimately ending — our use of privately operated prisons.”

“They simply do not provide the same level of correctional services, programs, and resources; they do not save substantially on costs; and as noted in a recent report by the Department’s Office of Inspector General, they do not maintain the same level of safety and security,” Yates wrote.


I am sure you will more than likely dismiss this, but that is to be expected.

Lmao, first, that's hilarious as worded by Sally.

Next, Link? I want the whole story.

Is this part of the felons rights movement? From what I understand, we have a shitload of people in private prisons. So, where they going? Sounds like govt bout to snatch up some more valuable business, tbh.
 
Was the graph not posted yesterday showing the industries that have heavy government involvement have soaring prices and inefficiencies?

Why does this surprise you?

Aplogies...I did not see it. A little busy.

Bu if that is the case, with the soaring prices and ineddicienies, the gov't still claims private prisons do not save them any money and cannot deliver the same amount of sevice.
 
And then he flipped his leftist fringe cable news channel to a gulf oil tyrant. Liberal hypocracy is always a beautiful thing.



agree, claiming the polls are biased & trump isnt losing is a pretty stupid strategery. assume they are correct, because they probably are, and fix your touching campaign to where you aren't losing. oh, and some negative attack ads against your opponent might help. a little.

also wish everyone on Team Right would shut up about these Hillary health issues. it seems pathetic too me, as if she is some fantastic perfect juggernaut candidate but some are trying to say she shouldnt be pres because of her health. her physical condition is the last touching reason anyone should refer too when explaining why she should not be POTUS.

Umm, Dr. Drew spoke on it.
 
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Aplogies...I did not see it. A little busy.

Bu if that is the case, with the soaring prices and ineddicienies, the gov't still claims private prisons do not save them any money and cannot deliver the same amount of sevice.

Yes, why does that surprise you? Name an industry where the government hands out contracts that's not loaded with inefficiencies and unbelievable price gouging.
 
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Lmao, first, that's hilarious as worded by Sally.

Next, Link? I want the whole story.

Is this part of the felons rights movement? From what I understand, we have a shitload of people in private prisons. So, where they going? Sounds like govt bout to snatch up some more valuable business, tbh.
More Obama pandering and preening for liberal elites & press with no actual real substance. Most private prisons are contracted by states & cities, & house criminals who have been convicted at that level. Don't have a shred of facts but I'd bet the number of federal funded private prisons full of federal criminals is pretty small.

Umm, Dr. Drew spoke on it.
At the behest of righties talking it up trying to make it an issue. Again, she could swim faster than Phelps & run faster than Bolt as far as I care....the reason she should not be in the White House has NOTHING to do with if she is healthy or if she is an infirmed addled senior citizen>
 
The question remains though…would Algore have done anything environmentally related if he didn't have the opportunity to make millions off of it? Rhetorical question. Keep defending Algore: Inventor of the Internet. It's entertaining to read.[laughing]

Not only did he get big money from Soros…he also got big money from selling his company to a company that only exists because it is funded by fossil fuel money...


http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-G...imate-Crusader-Profits-from-Fossil-Fuels.html

So what’s the problem? The problem is that Al Jazeera is funded by Qatar, which receives the bulk of its wealth from fossil fuels. Gore was grilled over this apparent hypocrisy, first by Matt Lauer:

Lauer challenged him on the fact that he had criticized the influence of fossil fuel money in television, but then got very wealthy selling his network to another network that exists because of fossil fuel money. Al Jazeera had the money to pay Gore $500 million because of fossil fuels. Lauer asked Gore if he saw a contradiction in his position. While Gore said he understands the criticism, he disagrees with it because Al Jazeera is a great network and has won major awards.



Not to mention this about his personal home…

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWarming/story?id=2906888&page=1

The Center claims that Nashville Electric Services records show the Gores in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using 18,414 kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200 kilowatt-hours in 2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006, and $640 for the main house and $525 for the pool house in 2005. That averages out to be $29,268 in gas and electric bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 in 2005.


 
Algore: Champion of a Clean Energy Future For All the World!!!

http://climatechangedispatch.com/al-gores-tangled-web-of-un-green-corporate-investments/

According to a 2012 Washington Post article, it first began when Obama became elected. Gore benefited largely from the Obama administration’s doling out billions of dollars to alternative energy companies he owned stock in or through his partnership with KPCB, which made large investments in clean-energy startups.

Gore’s “portfolio aligned smoothly with the agenda of an incoming administration and its plan to spend billions in stimulus funds on alternative energy…


Of the 11 companies he mentioned in his 2008 slide show, nine received or directly benefited from stimulus or clean energy funding.

“Fourteen green-tech firms in which Gore invested received or directly benefited from more than $2.5 billion in loans, grants and tax breaks, part of President Obama’s historic push to seed a U.S. renewable-energy industry with public money.”


Forgot to mention that while 9 of the 11 companies that Algore had investments in benefited from stimulus or clean energy funding…that 80% of the companies across the US that applied for similar funding were turned down…because you know…they didn't know the POTUS…and they didn't invent the internet.







 
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The odds of a 2nd dose of wikileaks being worse than the 1st is slight.

The biggest turn-off of the Trump campaign has been his nastiness. (I wish it were his incoherence, but you can't always get what you want.) So, to direct his campaign and correct its deficiencies he's just brought in an amp-up-the-nastiness guttersnipe.

To borrow from Jimmy Carter's run for the office: a government as good as its people.


Are you really so naive to think the worst information on the clintons is out right now?

You are delusional.
 
Read a great article last year from military trainers how the recruits in recent years were unable to perform simple physical tasks necessary to complete basic. Young people in this modern age were weaker, less flexible, less dexterous, with less stamina. The trainers said the entire requirements regiment was going to have to be rewritten - or have absolutely noone pass physicals. No more country strong farmboys who grew up hauling in hay or tobacco, or even city kids who had the freedom to run around all day, riding bikes & playing pickup stickball.

X box generation, faceinstaspacegram generation. no wonder they are all socialists who want free college.....then live in mom & dads basement playing video games as their work accomplishment, watching porn for their sexual stimulation.
I see this everyday. I work in the passenger travel office at Fort Sill and one of my primary duties is setting up transportation for Basic Trainees to their AIT (Advanced Individual Training) post. Most of the holdovers we have here are due to inability to pass the physical fitness test. I deal with Drill Sergeants on a daily basis and they are frustrated with the situation. They are limited to how much they can push these soldiers to try and get them into shape because, they are so weak coming in. In the past, you had to have a passing score of at least 70% to advance to AIT. Now, you only need to be able to pass 50% to advance to AIT and 60% to graduate there. The rest is to be achieved after you get to your regular unit. Let's hope they don't go to a unit deploying where combat may happen.
 
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Algore: Champion of a Clean Energy Future For All the World!!!

http://climatechangedispatch.com/al-gores-tangled-web-of-un-green-corporate-investments/

According to a 2012 Washington Post article, it first began when Obama became elected. Gore benefited largely from the Obama administration’s doling out billions of dollars to alternative energy companies he owned stock in or through his partnership with KPCB, which made large investments in clean-energy startups.

Gore’s “portfolio aligned smoothly with the agenda of an incoming administration and its plan to spend billions in stimulus funds on alternative energy…


Of the 11 companies he mentioned in his 2008 slide show, nine received or directly benefited from stimulus or clean energy funding.

“Fourteen green-tech firms in which Gore invested received or directly benefited from more than $2.5 billion in loans, grants and tax breaks, part of President Obama’s historic push to seed a U.S. renewable-energy industry with public money.”


Forgot to mention that while 9 of the 11 companies that Algore had investments in benefited from stimulus or clean energy funding…that 80% of the companies across the US that applied for similar funding were turned down…because you know…they didn't know the POTUS…and they didn't invent the internet
The stimulus was really just a Dem party pork bill written mostly by ex Clinton minions since the Obama team was busy with the transition. Which is why I smack Moe around every time he whines that the GOP did not continue laying down for the administration on every spending issue.
 
Good article here in response to Howard Kurtz "wow, the media is really being unfair to Trump, this is all new and dangerous territory!" The writer recounts some history for Howard, and shows that Rs are always on the receiving end of "unfair coverage". Here is Howard's epiphany:

“The media’s legions of Trump-bashers are finally acknowledging the obvious. And trying their best to justify it. But there’s one problem: Tilting against one candidate in a presidential election can’t be justified. This is not a defense of Donald Trump, who has been at war with much of the press since he got in the race. Too many people think if you criticize the way the billionaire is being covered, you are somehow backing Trump. And it’s not about the commentators, on the right as well as the left, who are savaging Trump, since they are paid for their opinions. This is about the mainstream media’s reporters, editors and producers, whose credo is supposed to be fairness. And now some of them are flat-out making the case for unfairness—an unprecedented approach for an unprecedented campaign. Put aside, for the moment, the longstanding complaints about journalists being unfair to Republicans. They never treated Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush or Bob Dole like this. Keep in mind that the media utterly misjudged Trump from the start, covering him as a joke or a sideshow or a streaking comet that would burn itself out. Many of them later confessed how wrong they had been, and that they had missed the magnitude of the anger and frustration that fueled Trump’s unlikely rise.”

http://observer.com/2016/08/a-history-lesson-for-howard-kurtz-campaign-credo-was-lost-long-ago/
Not dissimilar to totalitarian/dictator/communistic government news outlet's. Democrats are the first line of socialism/communism for this country. Here they come folks.
 
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Obama didn't appoint a political hack to the department he was supposed to run.
false and silly, he put political skills above all in most of his appointees. The reason the ACA rollout and portal were so delayed and screwed up is he ignored advice to name someone to lead it that had major project management experience, instead choosing all political cronies.
 
http://m.news9.com/story.aspx?story=32784075&catId=112032

The left is so caring.


An Oklahoma college student visiting Washington D.C. on a school trip, says he was beat up for wearing a Redskins Jersey. And the person he got into a fight with was a White House official in charge of American Indian education.

Barrett Dahl is Native American and a member of both the Choctaw and Sac and Fox Nations. He is also autistic. He says he wore the Redskins shirt because he was in Washington D.C. and because he sees it as a sense of cultural pride. However, when he showed up wearing it at a Pow Wow that's when the trouble started.

He says within seconds of sitting down he was approached by William Mendoza.
 
No man is an island,
Entire of itself.
Each is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thine own
Or of thine friend's were.
Each man's death diminishes me,
For I am involved in mankind.
I understand what you're trying to say, and I agree with you. That's what I meant by what I wrote, Hillary just doesn't matter.
 
Trump is going to win Kentucky. He is also going to lose wide in the electoral vote unless a porn movie of Clinton comes out or she loses it and calls Trump a CS in the debates. Trumps base is what it is and will not grow. He isn't going to drag in any new supporters. I also think Clintons support is what it is which is more than Trump. It's getting to the point where if Trump or Wikileaks or anyone else has something major on Clinton they had better release it soon.
Why not in September, or October? If it released now, the idiots will have time to reconcile it or just forget. The MSM will have time to tell the idiots how they should feel and think about it. I think it is better to wait until closer to the election to drop a bomb.

Not concerned about biased polls of people who aren't going to vote anyway.
 
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Not dissimilar to a totalitarian/dictator/communistic government news outlet's. Democrats are the first line of socialism/communism for this country. Here they come folks.

While I'm in the poetry quoting mood, here's one of the funnier political poems of last century. It's by the Egyptian poet CP Cavafy and it's titled "Waiting for the Barbarians".

The poem ends with:

Why don’t our distinguished orators come forward as usual
to make their speeches, say what they have to say?

Because the barbarians are coming today
and they’re bored by rhetoric and public speaking.

Why this sudden restlessness, this confusion?
(How serious people’s faces have become.)
Why are the streets and squares emptying so rapidly,
everyone going home so lost in thought?

Because night has fallen and the barbarians have not come.
And some who have just returned from the border say
there are no barbarians any longer.

And now, what’s going to happen to us without barbarians?
They were, those people, a kind of solution.
 
The stimulus was really just a Dem party pork bill written mostly by ex Clinton minions since the Obama team was busy with the transition. Which is why I smack Moe around every time he whines that the GOP did not continue laying down for the administration on every spending issue.

I'm black and blue over 4 years of continuing resolutions.
 
Since our buddies on the right always ask about what the gov't does better than private business...looks like the gov't will stop using private prisons to house federal imates.

Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates announced the decision on Thursday in a memo that instructs officials to either decline to renew the contracts for private prison operators when they expire or “substantially reduce” the contracts’ scope. The goal, Yates wrote, is “reducing — and ultimately ending — our use of privately operated prisons.”

“They simply do not provide the same level of correctional services, programs, and resources; they do not save substantially on costs; and as noted in a recent report by the Department’s Office of Inspector General, they do not maintain the same level of safety and security,” Yates wrote.


I am sure you will more than likely dismiss this, but that is to be expected.
Lol...misleading, I'll dismiss it because you left off the rest of the story...which claims from this story its not cost beneficial, but from numerous others it's inconclusive.

"How do we determine whether the private sector costs more or less than the public sector? Ideally, we could work off of a large database of public and private prisons and run a regression in which we controlled for jurisdiction, demographic factors, size, and the like. In practice, this large database doesn’t exist, and so the typical study chooses a small set of public and private prisons that are supposedly comparable.

Unfortunately, this comparability tends to be elusive; the public and private facilities compared often “differ in ways that confound comparison of costs.” Sometimes no comparable facilities exist. Even where there are two prisons in the jurisdiction housing inmates of the same sex and security classification, they generally differ in size, age, level of crowding, inmate age mix, inmate health mix, and facility design. In particular, adjusting facilities to take into account different numbers of inmates is problematic, since facilities with more inmates, other things equal, benefit from economies of scale.
The GAO explained recently that “t is not currently feasible to conduct a methodologically sound cost comparison of BOP [Bureau of Prisons] and private low and minimum security facilities because these facilities differ in several characteristics and BOP does not collect comparable data to determine the impact of these differences on cost.”

Liberals...minds blown when it comes to economics, take everything at face value, can't see the forest bc of the trees, and have absolutely zero idea about data collective measures, tools, methodolgies, and what can skew or cause constraints. Go talk to someone about hugging.

Who's the consumer for prisons? Not the inmate...they don't want to be a consumer of prison. So who's paying the prison? Oh that's right, the government. Since they are the only ones of putting one in prison, hence they decided to incur costs. Also government is incompetent, hence all payment is through contract with the prison...and since government doesnt effectively spend..well. No different than medicare, which is broke...and i can speak to this because i work in healthcare...they just dump money when asked and pay it all up front. couple things...again, I know liberals are restricted to face value so I'll lay it out. Since prisons are insanely overcrowded...are you under the impression that state funded prisons will magically have room.....OR...will the tax payers now incur absurd taxes to have to build new state prisons? Or is the funding magic? So your dropping a cost, but dismissing a new one. Also, if the government would stop concerning itself with trying to put everyone in jail for things like weed...these costs wouldn't be incurred.

3rd. Your statement about for profit prisons being less secure...is completely misleading. You know why they are less secure...bc they are only designed to house low level inmates. They were created bc of the government's obsession with putting everyone in jail.

Lastly, the market dictates the demand..and if costs are too high that means there is a force that's overriding and creating the demand. That's what government does. It thinks it can stir the market on its own and stimulate it....it cannot.
 
While I'm in the poetry quoting mood, here's one of the funnier political poems of last century. It's by the Egyptian poet CP Cavafy and it's titled "Waiting for the Barbarians".

The poem ends with:

Why don’t our distinguished orators come forward as usual
to make their speeches, say what they have to say?

Because the barbarians are coming today
and they’re bored by rhetoric and public speaking.

Why this sudden restlessness, this confusion?
(How serious people’s faces have become.)
Why are the streets and squares emptying so rapidly,
everyone going home so lost in thought?

Because night has fallen and the barbarians have not come.
And some who have just returned from the border say
there are no barbarians any longer.

And now, what’s going to happen to us without barbarians?
They were, those people, a kind of solution.

Can you find a poem that doesn't warn us to beware of the Clintons?
 
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Can you find a poem that doesn't warn us to beware of the Clintons?

I'll do you one better. I've got one about the fear of Clinton.

Antigonish by Willam Hughes Mearns

Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn't there.
He wasn't there again today,
I wish, I wish he'd go away...

When I came home last night at three,
The man was waiting there for me
But when I looked around the hall,
I couldn't see him there at all!
Go away, go away, don't you come back any more!
Go away, go away, and please don't slam the door...

Last night I saw upon the stair,
A little man who wasn't there,
He wasn't there again today
Oh, how I wish he'd go away...
 
Great analysis. "I'm going to make up a quote I haven't heard anyone say about women and use that to support my idea that all republicans are racist and hate women".

wow....ok...i'll break it down since you're not so bright.... when I use an obviously made up quote for hyperbole (look it up) then that is exactly what it is. Now if you want me to go back through the posts here to find examples, I can. But I was being nice.

Oh and P.S. since I didn't say anything about YOU, if you are taking my reference about folks looking upon those days fondly personally......well.......
 
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