POLITICAL THREAD
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That's not an argument.
If only those kids told themselves that they have the same opportunity as everyone else.
And everyone doesn't have the same opportunity, some people are smarter, some are better looking and some work harder. Some people make very bad decisions and they live with the consequences.
Good for you. Seriously. That last sentence is something to ponder though. Sacrifices can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Many who are poor literally cannot afford to make them.
They can't afford to make them because of the compounding effect a series of bad choices has placed on their lives.
In a theoretical sense, sure. But people who don’t have to stress about food and shelter have ever-increasing leverage when it comes to those opportunities. We’re obviously way past talking about race at this point. If you think Billy from Shitsburg, WV has the same opportunities as Sebastian from Huntington Beach, CA, you’re lying to yourself.
The rags-to-riches stories are great, but pretending that’s simply a “choice” for poor people is disingenuous. Just my opinion.
There are millions of people living paycheck to paycheck. One thing goes wrong and you’re back to square one. “Square one,” of course, varies wildly from family to family, person to person.
Same opportunity is misleading because as I said earlier noone is the same.
But ability to make one's life better, at least so as to escape generational poverty? Certainly, that is there without question for Billy.
If he is in the situation where has to worry about food and shelter and going back to square one, then it is entirely on him.
But ability to make one's life better, at least so as to escape generational poverty? Certainly, that is there without question for Billy.
If he is in the situation where has to worry about food and shelter and going back to square one, then it is entirely on him.
Rich no, but better than what they were brought up in yes. Choices and which ones we make decides for us which is why an early education built on reality instead of how bad whitey, cops, or boogie men are is the key. Telling them "YOU" are the one that is responsible and not giving them an excuse to fail is the most important lesson imo.
I hear you.
Do you think education is one of the main factors in improving one’s situation?
I specifically said that if you lived in a location where there were no jobs, but jobs were available in other locations, it meant that the person was choosing to remain unemployed and poor by staying in said location. That was met with hard pushback from the resident assclowns.
No because you don't need it to succeed, beyond the fundamental.
I'm not talking rags to riches, I'm talking rags to let's not be dirt poor. The world cannot function without plumbers and other skilled labor of the sort that doesn't require sophistication.
I'm not talking rags to riches, I'm talking rags to let's not be dirt poor. The world cannot function without plumbers and other skilled labor of the sort that doesn't require sophistication.
I doubt you remember that correctly because, republicans believe in opportunity and that everyone has it and that it is your choice what to do with it.
People are lazy. Black people, white people, skin color doesn't make a dam difference IMO.
But I support Trump so that makes me racist so what do I know.
But I support Trump so that makes me racist so what do I know.
First I’m retired from teaching since 2017. Public education is a total mess and no the teachers aren’t part of the ploy they are the ploy. Between teachers and the media they run the show. They are the ones who push the lies. You know it’s fact that liberals teachers can openly discuss their issues and agenda while conservatives will be flogged for their beliefs in a public school. Everything a conservative teacher discusses is on the down low while the other 90% talk openly about their liberal ideology. Don’t pretend it doesn’t happen. The ones keeping their mouthes shut in your school meeting are probably the conservatives. My god and the inner city?? That’s a lib teacher play ground. Get the inner city folks hooked on welfare, food stamps whatever. Let the state run the show. I mean that is a leftist wet dream.
Be honest dude. Really. You know what the push is in public school in the cities. Not in nicholasville or Georgetown rather large city hood school.
As for my argument on race. 50-150 years is actually a very long time when you compare it against the age of our country.
Yes dude school to prison. Give me a good answer to why you think it’s happening?? Answer teachers enable it. Teachers are afraid of the kids the administration puts policies that have no teeth. If you’re an honest teacher then you know your admin isn’t going to back you. So you have kids the liberal teachers are afraid of. Weak liberal teachers who can’t manage a class room so it’s give in and enable at every turn. You have administration that doesn’t back you.
A kid sniffs a girls chair when she walks away and all he gets is sent home for the day. Same kid thinks he ll get away with rape when he’s on his own. If schools actually did their job and held kids accountable at a young age and up til adulthood you wouldn’t have the magnitude of this problem. They would learn through corrective minor consequences. Not prison. I have story after story of where teacher dropped the ball and kid turned out to do something very bad bc they weren’t held accountable.
Btw why did that weak ass lib get into teaching to begin with? Same as the media people they got in there so they could have a direct impact on culture. So they could make a difference with their ideology.
my take is terrible. I agree. Unfortunately it’s true. You have fallen victim to the public school propaganda
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It was a conversation about lack of jobs in the rust belt and Appalachia. The talking points were that Trump would return both regions to how they were before automation became a thing and coal was a major energy source. I countered that there were myriad opportunities in multiple cities around the country, so anyone waiting around in a place with no jobs was choosing to be unemployed. That wasn’t well received at all here. Lots of “not everyone can just up and move, people shouldn’t be forced to move for work,” etc.
I’ll give Trump credit where it’s due about how the job market has improved, but it’s cyclical. At some point unemployment will start creeping back up again, and people will have to make a choice about being poor or bettering their situation.
I’ve got 2 kids in public and never once have I heard either of them coming home talking about how political their teachers are. They have enough of a challenge trying to do algebra.
Hey, don’t get too down on yourself. Not all Trump voters are racist.
The ones who argue about flying a Confederate flag outside their homes, and also rock the bumper sticker/vanity plate? They’re racist.
Blue Lives Matter? Racist as hell.
All Lives Matter? Possibly racist. Around 50% - 65%.
“Personal responsibility” Trump voters? Similar racism chances as the All Lives Matter crew.
Hate LeBron James because he doesn’t have the same political views as you, the Trump voter? Racist.
Respect Nick Bosa for exercising ARE FURST AMEMMENT RIHJTS? Racist as hell.
Think Candace Owens is anything more than a 6? Probably racist, definitely unable to pull women with any frequency.
Trump bumper sticker on a 1998 Toyota Camry? Racist.
Wear the weird fishing shirts with the flap on the back? 85% chance you voted for Trump, 70% chance you’re a racist.
“Women For Trump” bumper sticker? Probably racist by proxy, follows orders from her racist husband who tells her how to think and vote. Also a 62% chance they said some racist shit while getting drunk with their sorority sisters at some random college in a podunk southern town. 30% chance it was caught on video. 100% for all of the above if they went to Ole Miss.
Attend a MAGA rally? Probably racist. Possibly racist as hell.
Buy bootleg Trump gear from the black guy at a MAGA rally and then post about how he “gets it” and “works hard?” Oh yeah, bro. You’re definitely racist.
Let me know if you need any further clarification. Hold your chin high, my bro! I’m sure you don’t fit any of these descriptions.
Thank you. I’m genuinely curious as to where this “LIBERAL PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS” take originates. 99% of my coworkers never bring up their political beliefs in front of students. They’re too busy, you know, teaching. And that’s in a “liberal” southern city.
I pity those who break the bank just to send their kids to a private school, like they’re “escaping” something.
According to Schumer Ratcliffe pointing out basic due process to Mueller by saying that prosecutors can't exonerate because we're all already innocent until proven guilty is actually blind loyalty to Trump.
I'll just go ahead and spare you guys from the upcoming social media and msm cycles and subsequent confirmation hearing.
"Ratcliffe is a racist fascist Trump stooge. A Russian asset who is a threat to democracy. His nomination is a constitutional crisis. People will literally die in the streets if he's confirmed."
I'll just go ahead and spare you guys from the upcoming social media and msm cycles and subsequent confirmation hearing.
"Ratcliffe is a racist fascist Trump stooge. A Russian asset who is a threat to democracy. His nomination is a constitutional crisis. People will literally die in the streets if he's confirmed."
Something must be going on. Obama and his husband are deleting tweets from Hillary. Obama has unfollowed Hillary. Elizabeth Warren has unfollowed Hillary.
Hmm... turns out "The Wire" was a documentary
People in the CIA are starting to talk.
Things are about to get very interesting
I distinctly remember this because I regretted not agreeing with you.
If you teach inner city kids, then YOU are part of the problem, a GD dope head is teaching the young, and talks like a GD 14 year old. No wonder those poor kids are f**ked up in the head.
No wonder inner city kids get no real education and taught common sense things, they gotta a dope head that talks like a 14 year old poisoning their delicate brains.
Just when I thought you could not get any more stupid, you prove me wrong
Demcrats are so dirty and corrupt. They all need to be hanged. To show emphasis that you can't be corrupt and get away with it. Hang Obama on live tv. Then bill and hill.
You sound...angry and resentful.
Did you have shitty teachers or something?
Bless your heart, bro. I hope you were able to overcome such a traumatic experience.
Love this. Just seeing it illustrates the perfect analogy. Trump is the Road Runner and the Dems are Wiley Coyote.
It’s not cyclical when our elected Govt willingly ships manufacturing jobs overseas.
There is no up cycle in that, it’s only a slow descent. That was the point is “assclowns” were making, and apparently you still don’t get it. Have you ever lived in a small town that had a plant leave?
Why is it the government's job to keep those business there? I thought private industry was the answer to everything?
