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The Mueller Report coming out tomorrow. This will be the most microscoped document in history. Fodder for the left wing media. Should be short lived but probably will not.
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How does this follow at all from what I said? I said if you outlined how 999 could accomplish the goals of the poor paying less and the rich paying more while meeting our financial needs I might agree with you. How much more open-minded can a person be? It’s hardly my fault that you’re parroting a talking point without any depth of knowledge on the subject.
Money. If you want to sacrifice like you supposedly have to make more money, go for it. But saying you only matyr yourself in the ways you do so you can have healthcare just highlights how messed up our system is tying health to employment. Killing yourself at work so you can earn the chance to live if you’re unlucky enough to get a life threatening condition...
Good - less money they’ll have to buy meth, neck tattoos and Mountain Dew.
Tetanus, whooping cough, shingles, measles, chicken pox.....I'm missing one I think
You weren't open minded, you were Bernie minded which when you think about it, has no depth at all.
I did not say rich paying more, I said fair share. The poor would pay less than now. The rich are 1% as has been brought up many times and the poor is 15%. Plus, the rest of the nation would keep more of their money. Again, you would rather punish the poor for the hatred of the rich.
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Ok, I'll go ahead with your bullshit scenario.
Nobody with pancreatic cancer is worried about their bills.
How long did they have bills?
6-12 mo.
Well first, you think the government run healthcare is going to put forth much effort to keep me alive if I wake up with cancer?
Second, we should be obsessed with jobs and the economy, because without either there is no tax revenue for the government to take to pay for all these socialist agenda items the left is proposing.
Third, pay rates are increasing due to supply and demand, not because of government mandated minimum wage increases. The bulk of the closures and job cuts are in areas where a $15 minimum wage was implemented. Also if people are relying on minimum wage jobs to raise families, then they need to take some personal responsibility and find a job that pays better. Those jobs are plentiful, out there and available. It’s not the employers responsibility to bail people out of their poor life choices. Minimum wage jobs are meant to be entry level, part time jobs.
Fortunately I work for a company that takes care of its own. I contribute an amount from every paycheck to go to an internal fund set up by our company to help employees in our 500 restaurants when a personal crisis occurs. We’ve helped employees who lost their apartment in a fire, who were diagnosed with an illness or had to undergo major surgery, who were victims of a crime among other things that created hardships. We also have Christmas parties where we provide children of employees with gifts.
$15 minimum wage is all good and well for startups who build a business model around it or mega-giants like Walmart and Amazon who can absorb it. But to place that burden on certain industries with smaller margins is devastating.
Nothing in life is easy. The system fails when people realize they can do nothing and get the same benefit as those working their asses off for it.
No, money would not be the incentive anymore. Under your socialized way of govt., the more I make the more is coming out. You give govt the control that they will never give back or stop where they are at.
I work like I do so my family can benefit, they benefit, I benefit. My wife works as well. I didn't finish college so I chose a life and job that would provide. Not every job is supposed to provide the same standard of living. Jobs like restaurant part time work are done by people who chose to do so. It is not my responsibility to pay for the benefits they don't have. I will in no way vote for a govt that will make that choice for me.
He was not supporting your position, he was giving you a reality check.
Quite ironic that Trump supporters think AOC is dumb, while Trump thinks windmills cause cancer and wants to send flying water tanks into a major city to extinguish a fire at a historic cathedral. Covfefe or hamberders anyone?
Give it up little man. Your side is losing.
Fair share equals flat tax. After the first $30 K everyone pays the same percentage. No deductions; no breaks.
You do not understand irony. Anyone who has heard AOC speak should be able to tell she has not one intelligent brain cell in her body while Trump, has defeated the Dems at every turn in every way. Winning over and over again, that's the irony. MAGA!
No one should expect to live on a minimum wage job. In this economy, if that's all you can get, it's not a problem with the economy. Every person in the US has an equal opportunity to get an education and seek jobs that earn more than min wage. I'm all for a high school drop-out being able to get nothing else. Might provide an incentive for others.
Allow them $30 k before taxes, then apply the flat tax. That, my friend, is the ONLY fair form of taxation.
You really think you're special, don't you?. You're not. Hard work is how everyone not born wealthy makes it in life.
You seem to want to sit around writing poetry or something, enjoying yourself while having the government (taxpayers) take care of you. Eff you deadbeat.
Yet another example of winning: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/17/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
The opposite. I realize I’m a lone voice in a vast sea humanity. Only together can the working class apply pressure to the elites. From the Magna Carta to the Coal Wars, all the rights people have fought and died for throughout history that you take for granted were wrested from the teeth of the elites by collective action. They do not part with power easily. Why enable them?
I'm not a deadbeat like you. Hard work has made me reasonably successful. I'd rather die than pay to support you lazy ass, entitled brats who spend all your time whining about the system instead of taking advantage of the ample opportunities this country provides.
Why do you want to give more power to them? Do you not understand that what you want diminishes your independence?
You make a statement like that and then want to hand over more power to the government.
Oh man, tomorrows gonna be good. Might even double post a few tweets from @WKBlu
Independence is useless if it's just the freedom to die. The current state of our government is a symptom, not the root problem. Our government panders to big money and flouts the will of the people. Government is just an expression of collective will, one of the few tools we can bring to bear on the moneyed interests. Remember Teddy and the trust busting? We need government for the people, not the elites.
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Some people tried to do something
Whoa... I had a meeting at 30 Rock today. I looked out the window and saw like 15 cop cars with sirens on outside St Catherine’s. Had no idea until just now.
You're just full of shit. You have it better than any of your ancestors. Healthcare or otherwise.
If you don't, that's on you.
My father lived to be 86. He lived the longest of any male in my family tree.
All of my ancestors from the 16th to 19th centuries lived organically all the way to their ripe old 50's and 60's.
Once you're in this libtopia and finally exhaust other peoples money, do you think they'll aggressively treat stage three and four cancer?
You'll be treated like we treat our pets now. At a certain point we say your just a dog and we get a new one.
HAHA LOOK AT THAT MORON. OTHER THAN AMASS BILLIONS AND WIN THE PRESIDENCY, DRUMPF ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING IN HIS LIFE.
HAR HAR HAR
So your answer to that is to give them more tax revenue and complete control over your healthcare. You can't make this liberal logic up, lol. I mean holy shit.
Sign of Omar's toxicity in battleground Congressional districts
Some folks are asking why I directed the return of Rep. Omar’s donation. I did this weeks ago because I vigorously disagree with any anti-semitic comments.
The Dims will make him apologize for sending the money back.
How many -isms and -ists will he be outside of being a mansplainer and a whitesplainer.
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