POLITICAL THREAD

[SomeDudeCRO]

The left will use this and other incidents like it in their continued fight against freedom of speech. They have to do this because in an open forum of ideas, the leftist ideals like those espoused by people like levi and other radicals in this thread fail miserably.

Socialism is no different. The core belief there is that we have enough wealth and productivity already, we can just hand it over to centralized control and redistribute it so no one is poor or hungry. This fails because the moment you actually do that, namely remove the incentive individuals have to better themselves and improve their lot in life, you realize cannot maintain the same wealth, the same productivity and no where near it. Instead you are left with a very small subset of intrinsically motivated people, a bunch of corrupt officials and thieves using that is their means of productivity to society, and a whole bunch of dissatisfied, lazy plebians who want more, but find there is no means to obtain it. And since the individual does not as matter as much as the collective, any individual ideas, or indeed the individuals themselves, can be dispensed with at a moments notice.

 

[truebluewildcat]

To be fair, Fox News is all over this too. Drug Cartels and violence in the Gaza Strip are normal. Even thought they happen way too often, shootings like this are still pretty few and far between comparatively.

Yeah agree.

Gang violence and inter-city decay...ho hum...

Cartel violence and drug issues...ho hum...

Middle East time bomb...ho hum...

Christian genocide in Africa and Middle East...ho hum...

Nut job shoots up a Mosque...WHOA NELLY!

Reporting it isn't the issue, it deserves some coverage, but the immediate narrative that is pushed before all the bodies can be scooped off the ground is the problem.

I mean that Tweet by that CNN Stelter says it all in a nice little nutshell.

The response to things is pre-packaged and ready to go.

 

[qwesley]

But that's an easy fix. If you're a conservative, watch Fox News and you'll be fed exactly what you want to hear. If not, watch CNN or MSNBC.

I don't watch any of them because I think they are all overpaid, hypocritical blowhards, but I don't see why anyone would complain about something they voluntarily consume. I don't like macaroni and cheese - guess what? I don't eat it.

Sure if it was just about me. I watch none of it other than clips on twitter. Unfortunately their propaganda has serious negative effects on many. The views of the millennials on communism/socialism and thinking everyone right of center is a racist are a major problem. The media is the biggest single problem in our political system and they have had the data telling them that for decades and have watched their credibility numbers continue to spiral down with the only defense being to blame fox and talk radio (and now DT).

 

[KRJ1975]

Sure if it was just about me. I watch none of it other than clips on twitter. Unfortunately their propaganda has serious negative effects on many. The views of the millennials on communism/socialism and thinking everyone right of center is a racist are a major problem. The media is the biggest single problem in our political system and they have had the data telling them that for decades and have watched their credibility numbers continue to spiral down with the only defense being to blame fox and talk radio (and now DT).

I can't disagree with any of this. Solid post/take.

 

[homeytheclown]

I'm almost in disbelief so I want to make sure I understand you: are you celebrating the murder of innocent people right now?

Yes I am celebrating , u see there are two teams Muslims and non Muslims I am team non muslim. I won’t do the killing but like all Muslims I will smile and celebrate when they die.

 

[KRJ1975]

Yes I am celebrating , u see there are two teams Muslims and non Muslims I am team non muslim. I won’t do the killing but like all Muslims I will smile and celebrate when they die.

Wow, my ignore list has tripled in the last week. Welcome to team KingofBBN and Levibooty sir.

 

[homeytheclown]

I know man. I remember on 9/12, there was nothing to be found on any media outlet.

Typical spineless Trudeau like response

 

[bigblueinsanity]

I know man. I remember on 9/12, there was nothing to be found on any media outlet.

C'mon you're smarter than that. Just because things were a particular way, doesn't mean they'll stay that way. That's normalcy bias.

Ya 17 years ago it was called out for what it was. But the narrative pretty clearly shifted the last 10 or so years.

 

[KingOfBBN]

Wonder if hes ever tweeted once about global islamic terrorism.

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“Global white supremacy” is so bad that every brown person follows white people wherever they go. Go to their countries, try to go to their neighborhoods, their schools, etc.

I’d love for Democrat media to compare the numbers of Islamic terrorism versus literally anyone else. Islamic terrorism occurs on a daily basis and Dems/globalists are hellbent on importing that culture to the west and ignoring everything they do. But are super quick to portray them as the good guys.

You’ll never see a Democrat go after a Muslim for their beliefs but they will target a Christian for their beliefs and they will view Mike Pence as the devil.

 

[KRJ1975]

C'mon you're smarter than that. Just because things were a particular way, doesn't mean they'll stay that way. That's normalcy bias.

Ya 17 years ago it was called out for what it was. But the narrative pretty clearly shifted the last 10 or so years.

Yeah, that was probably a poor example. I watch more darts on TV than Cable News so I guess I'm not as outraged as some people are. I do agree with you that things have changed a lot since then.

 

[homeytheclown]

Yeah. No one should be celebrating something like this. Acts of terror like this are disgusting. I don’t care who it is or what the reason.

I politely disagree there are mosques all over the place that are motivational seminars for jihadis. Islam is religious facism

 

[WKBlu]

 

[homeytheclown]

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Two tiered justice there it is meanwhile New York just ensured manafort will die in jail with state charges that can’t be pardoned

 

[KingOfBBN]

-Muslim shooter shoots up a gay nightclub.
Let’s not discuss the Islamic ideology. No. Let’s focus on the AR-15.

-Muslim rape gangs specifically targeting white women.
Crickets.

-Muslims commit terror attacks all over the world, killing Christians, killing Jews, killing other Muslims, blowing up busses, shooting up Germany, Brussels, Paris, blowing up kids at a concert in England, shooting up a Christmas work party in San Bernardino, etc.

Was the narrative from our DNC media ever about Islam? Ever?

 

[homeytheclown]

-Muslim shooter shoots up a gay nightclub.
Let’s not discuss the Islamic ideology. No. Let’s focus on the AR-15.

-Muslim rape gangs specifically targeting white women.
Crickets.

-Muslims commit terror attacks all over the world, killing Christians, killing Jews, killing other Muslims, blowing up busses, shooting up Germany, Brussels, Paris, blowing up kids at a concert in England, etc.

Was the narrative from our DNC media ever about Islam? Ever?

Maybe this is the start of a war the globalists will target white people even more now get ready, there will absolutely be payback to trump supporters on this .. I can’t imagine the rage on social media , something bad will happen Imo.. we have nothing to be ashamed of , do not back down to these people

 

[AustinTXCat]

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[KRJ1975]

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Of all the things that annoy me, the broad brush approach is near the top of the list.

A few idiots with torches march around and chant dumb shit = all whites are racist dicks.

A couple of states attempt to pass extreme abortion laws = all democrats wake up every day and have a pot of coffee and behead an infant.

Most of us are good people, regardless of our political beliefs. I wish more people would realize that.

 

[homeytheclown]

Of all the things that annoy me, the broad brush approach is near the top of the list.

A few idiots with torches march around and chant dumb shit = all whites are racist dicks.

A couple of states attempt to pass extreme abortion laws = all democrats wake up every day and have a pot of coffee and behead an infant.

Most of us are good people, regardless of our political beliefs. I wish more people would realize that.

And eventually th people who are 24/7 slandered are not going to put up with this shit and will fight back.

 

[AustinTXCat]

 

[Bill - Shy Cat]

Of all the things that annoy me, the broad brush approach is near the top of the list.

A few idiots with torches march around and chant dumb shit = all whites are racist dicks.

A couple of states attempt to pass extreme abortion laws = all democrats wake up every day and have a pot of coffee and behead an infant.

Most of us are good people, regardless of our political beliefs. I wish more people would realize that.

Agree John.

 

[fuzz77]

And eventually th people who are 24/7 slandered are not going to put up with this shit and will fight back.

Give me a fricken break if you are implying that whites are 24/7 slandered.
If you think so then you've simply lived with privilege so long that you're blind to it.

As Chris Rock said, "There isn't a white man in American who would trade places with me. And I'm rich". Rock could be Muslim, gay, Mexican/Hispanic...name about any minority and it would still be true.

 

[trueblujr2]

Most of my friends are Trump supporters. I’d be saddened and angered by the event you describe above. Are there some extreme left pieces of shit who might not be exactly upset by the murder of 26 innocent people? Perhaps, but to broad brush every democrat as a bloodthirsty goon is a very small minded position.

Just as broad brushing every republican as a white supremicist fascist nazi loving racist bigot is a very small minded position by many on the left who seem to have that mindset.

 

[Sawnee Cat]

Give me a fricken break if you are implying that whites are 24/7 slandered.
If you think so then you've simply lived with privilege so long that you're blind to it.

As Chris Rock said, "There isn't a white man in American who would trade places with me. And I'm rich". Rock could be Muslim, gay, Mexican/Hispanic...name about any minority and it would still be true.

You got me on that one. There is not a person on earth I would trade places with. Color or no color. God made me as I am and I can accept that. I am just passing through this world and I am but a vapor. Poof and I am gone. So I enjoy who I am

 

[fuzz77]

Just as broad brushing every republican as a white supremicist fascist nazi loving racist bigot is a very small minded position by many on the left who seem to have that mindset.

So then you agree that there are small minded people on both sides and that both sides try to paint the other as the extreme?
If so, I will now expect you to call out those on your side that express that small-mindedness.

 

[homeytheclown]

Give me a fricken break if you are implying that whites are 24/7 slandered.
If you think so then you've simply lived with privilege so long that you're blind to it.

As Chris Rock said, "There isn't a white man in American who would trade places with me. And I'm rich". Rock could be Muslim, gay, Mexican/Hispanic...name about any minority and it would still be true.

Fuzz it is no surprise about 3 years ago the democrats formally announced they were giving up on the white working class as a voting bloc.. it is no surprise that everything that is pushed or blamed is caused by whiteness, I could cite about twenty examples in which the targets are white and trashed because of that .. that is the definition of racism in its most pure form. I know u know this and I want you to know that it’s ok if you want to hate white people just be honest about it

 

[JStaff2187]

I politely disagree there are mosques all over the place that are motivational seminars for jihad

That is your right. Thanks for the civil and polite disagreement.

 

[trueblujr2]

Give me a fricken break if you are implying that whites are 24/7 slandered.
If you think so then you've simply lived with privilege so long that you're blind to it.

As Chris Rock said, "There isn't a white man in American who would trade places with me. And I'm rich". Rock could be Muslim, gay, Mexican/Hispanic...name about any minority and it would still be true.

Chris Rock is a successful African American. I don’t think he’s feeling too much pain suffering and oppression. I would gladly trade places with him.

 

[homeytheclown]

Which party pushes for the dismissal of civility .. the democrats and that is where we draw the line, the moment you think it’s ok to shout down in public or lay your hands on someone is the moment people will be forced to rise up

 

[JStaff2187]

As Chris Rock said, "There isn't a white man in American who would trade places with me. And I'm rich". Rock could be Muslim, gay, Mexican/Hispanic...name about any minority and it would still be true.

I think we both know this is far from the truth.

If you’re unhappy with your own life and all about success and wealth or fame and fortune... wouldn’t you trade places with Chris Rock if you were the white guy who is the assistant manager of a dollar tree?

You don’t think anyone that is white wants to be Lebron James? Come on man.

 

[qwesley]

So then you agree that there are small minded people on both sides and that both sides try to paint the other as the extreme?
If so, I will now expect you to call out those on your side that express that small-mindedness.

You don't have the ethical capital to call for that. Almost 5k pages and you have never called out a single Dem. Can't even be truthful about multiple user names.

 

[KRJ1975]

Just as broad brushing every republican as a white supremicist fascist nazi loving racist bigot is a very small minded position by many on the left who seem to have that mindset.

Agree 100%. I pointed that out above.

 

[trueblujr2]

What an idiotic tweet.

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His list is missing a few. Namely the Las Vegas concert shooting. (Hmm whatever happened to finding that motive). What about the shooting at the congressional baseball practice? Hmm. Deranged Bernie supporter? Guess these don’t fit the narrative so they are conveniently left off.

 

[EastKYWildcat]

Yes I am celebrating , u see there are two teams Muslims and non Muslims I am team non muslim. I won’t do the killing but like all Muslims I will smile and celebrate when they die.

I genuinely feel terrible for you that you feel this way about other humans.

 

[fuzz77]

Fuzz it is no surprise about 3 years ago the democrats formally announced they were giving up on the white working class as a voting bloc.. it is no surprise that everything that is pushed or blamed is caused by whiteness, I could cite about twenty examples in which the targets are white and trashed because of that .. that is the definition of racism in its most pure form. I know u know this and I want you to know that it’s ok if you want to hate white people just be honest about it

I've searched for that "formal announcement" and failed to find it. Have a link?

It has been for several decades that white working class men have actively voted against their own economic interest that was being supported by Democrats. They have voted against organized labor resulting in the dissipation of the middle class in favor of "trickle down"...and what have they gotten for it? If your AR-15 is more important to you than your ability to earn a decent living and not rig the game even further in the direction of the 1% then that's on you. The GOP latched onto a couple of wedge issues and working class whites by large sold their souls so that the "real Republicans" could further stuff their pockets. Trump has paid for more abortions than most could count and would pay for another tomorrow if necessary and knows with his wealth he can always buy another regardless of legality but as long as he says what you want to hear...GBO!
So while the "white working class men" have been sliding down the economic ladder they have had to find others to blame. While they should be looking in the mirror they would rather blame it on minorities and the removal of barriers that have kept minorities down for so long.

The only thing that has changed with the Democratic party over the last 50 years is that is has opened its doors to those that for so long were met with closed doors. If that threatens you...

Meanwhile, the GOP has always served the 1%. They understand they can throw you a bone and you'll come running. Perhaps some day you'll realize you been used but if that comes at the point that the 1% control 80-90% of the economy then you'll be SOL.

 

[trueblujr2]

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Last I checked Trump wasn’t the president of New Zealand.

 

[KRJ1975]

Isn't "calling out" other people overrated? Be a good person, treat people with respect, don't be a dickhead. Let other people worry about how they act.

 

[ThePunk]

New Zealand POV video is hard to watch

 

[KRJ1975]

New Zealand POV video is hard to watch

Send Homey a link, he'd love to watch some innocent folks getting gunned down in cold blood.

 

[JStaff2187]

Isn't "calling out" other people overrated? Be a good person, treat people with respect, don't be a dickhead. Let other people worry about how they act.

Usually yes. I agree. But I do have to go there right now after reading the above post.

Fuzz talking about being used by a party. Dems pushed Russian collusion down our throats for 2 years. He ate it up. I’m not saying the Republican Party is the answer, but Dems sure as hell aren’t.

 

[JStaff2187]

New Zealand POV video is hard to watch

Looking at some of the still frames is bad enough.