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Still would like to see one of our resident DUMBASS libs show us any proof AT ALL of man made global warming.
Yep. Awful. Should've shut it down before signing that, wall or no.
And national emergency is not a way to govern. Neither is an eo
Only way I'm going to be satisfied with this national emergency shit is if Trump goes full heel and declares a climate change national emergency.
It's been so cold out this winter, we need to heat the globe up, so just start burning piles of coal all over Washington DC and the rest of the whacky loony toon lefty cesspools.
It's been so cold out this winter, we need to heat the globe up, so just start burning piles of coal all over Washington DC and the rest of the whacky loony toon lefty cesspools.
AOC has declared the world will end in 12 years, that’s all the proof they need. Nothing Al Gore ever predicted came true so off to the newest shiny thing.
LOL like it really matters now. This new border bill will strip him of any authority to construct any type of barrier assuming he can even get the money when this whole thing ends up in the court system. I have never been so down with Trump as I am now.
Not sure if I Google "epitome of lefty loony toon beta cuck" or "Riley Roberts".
Please cite the text of the bill that you read that leads you to believe that.
Trump tried to play hard ball and got absolutely crushed for it. He held out for a month or so, demanded a wall and better border security and in the end was made out to be the bad guy.
Again, wall and border security is popular until folks start missing pay checks.
Trump had to crack first so people could get paid and he could live to fight another day.
Dems aren't going to secure the border like it needs to be and they can hide behind people on the government payroll to weather any negotiation.
Trump would have been a 1 term wonder and that "Blue Wave" would have really rolled over Washington the next cycle had the hold out lasted longer or if it starts up again.
That's the reason he's not going through it again. I mean we're talking about a guy who loves negotiating and getting into the mud with people, why all of a sudden the change of heart? Because the machine and probably even some of his own campaign/polling people got sat him down and said "Man, that art of the deal style brawling didn't work. We will get hammered not only by dems but by decent chunk of our base and potential voters in the middle if we go through that again."
Mitch and other pub leadership are going to have to separate wall/border funding from any massive spending bill.
It has to become a singular stand alone bill in order to prevent dems from weaponizing all sorts of different things and mucking it up with all sorts of land mines.
It's a simple 1 page bill that says "The wall will be built, the border will be secured. Drugs and crimes via the southern border will be cracked down on like never before by any and all means, no expense will be spared to protect America."
Bring that to the floor and ask "Who wants to go on record as in and who wants to go on record as out?"
It is hilarious that anyone would spin the party headed by a supposed billionaire who lived in a literal golden tower and actually owns country clubs is the party of the working people.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...americans-he-will-veto-gop-dem-spending-bill/
There's an audio clip of Mo Brooks describing the bill within the above link. This along with other articles I have read gave me my conclusion. FWIW the way the bill was passed no one knows what's truly all in the bill but enough has been leaked to know that it's a Democrat written bill with Republicans signing off on it.
It sure as hell isn't the Democrat party. That train left building about 15 years ago.
as an alabaman who watched moe brooks lie throughout his campaign, i would maybe formulate my own opinion. but hey, thats just me.
this bill probably isnt great, but its no where near the hysteria inducing levels you and others are making it out to be.. its almost like the kentucky basketball trolls.. just pretending to be a fan until one thing they can freak out about, then they come here and shit post about the sky is falling and were headed to the NIT.
this is a spending bill.. its not shaping our deportation abilities nor is it setting no build zones along the border. relax..or just admit you were and always have been a never trumper.
the man can only do so much with next to zero support. if you wanna bitch, call up mitch and make it known.
yeah.. because the party that has congressmen smiling in the face of angel mothers is definitely the party of the people. gtfoh
Nah just got enough balls to call a spade a spade. I don't blindly follow anyone. You say the bill isn't so bad. How so?
I gained 4 pounds over New years when I was in Orlando for the Citrus Bowl. Lost most of it into the toilet when I got back. At that age and at his height, you can gain and lose 4 lbs in a matter of days. If he had put on 20-25 lbs, i't would be different, but 4 lbs on a 6'-3" tall guy is a weekly fluctuation. The fact the MSM and CNN is even making news of this is ludicrous and just another example of why noone should take them seriously.
Imagine if Oprah's fat ass was president and some news organization said she was obese...
It was all just so they could say he's medically obese. That's legit the only reason it was newsworthy.
Yes the msm is that petty
you got balls enough to parrot a politicians opinion as your own. wow... some big league balls.
i didnt say that its "not so bad". i said that its no where near the freak out level you are pushing. its a spending bill for christs sake.
Was it opinion? So you're saying Brooks, Ingraham, Hannity, Bretibart, Big League Politics, etc. were forming an opinion and none of that shit is in there. Hmmm, okay that sounds reasonable.
Someone who is sponsoring a child, or may potentially sponsor a child, or shares a household with someone who is sponsoring a child, or shares a household with someone that may potentially sponsor a child.
That covers a huge amount of illegals. Especially living in an area with plenty of illegals (I live in a major agricultural spot in Cali), many illegals share a house with 2-3 families. And again it's not just deportation, this doesn't fund them to just detain them as well.
Do I think Dems will try to use this to prevent ICE from detaining wanted murders? No probably not. But I am someone that has a stance that I have no problem and want ICE to detain and deport any illegals they find. I do think Dems will use this bill to prevent ICE from detaining illegals found by smaller crimes like DUI and other non major crimes.
This to me is like what the Dems are trying to do with guns. They know they can't come straight out with saying ban all guns, so they try to write bills that essentially ban guns without saying it. Like trying to put massive taxes, limitations and long waiting lists on ammo. Try and make it almost impossible to buy ammo will essentially be close to banning guns or making them useless for many. I think this is basically what they're trying to do with ICE.
Not speaking very well...imo. Same ol campaign talking points he's been rattling off forever.
I still don't know what exactly this bill does or doesn't do.
Trump has lost twice so far on securing our border. I don't understand why he caved, but I do understand that neither side wants secure borders, so he's not getting anything from them. Trump should have shut the govt down and went on vacation, imo.
Another thing I don't understand is how our borders are not a military issue. It absolutely is, so why doesn't Trump ever mention this? That kind of leads me to believe Trump is just mainly pushing these walls so he can create a bunch of jobs for people and build some shit. Which is fine, but it's not genuine. We genuinely have illegal aliens pouring over or border and that is a threat to our national security. We need professional help down there. We need a real plan.
That's not gonna happen. We lost this war decades ago.
This is where Trump can really do some good stuff for the US. Deliberate increase trade and cooperation with anti-globalist regimes. Italy, Great Britain, Poland, Hungary, Brazil should all be given good deals (not handouts, just really equitable deals). Prop up some large, anti-globalist economies and suddenly it's not us vs. the world
Yeah, forget all the policies that actually benefit the working class. Orange man bad.
there it is...."all these wonderful things, all these border things will be build by USA....by wonderful US Steel which was almost dead".
And that's fine. Good job, lord knows we need US steel, but this ain't really about no national security invasion....WHICH IS LITERALLY WHAT THIS IS AND NOBODY WILL CALL IT SUCH. We have been invaded.
And that's fine. Good job, lord knows we need US steel, but this ain't really about no national security invasion....WHICH IS LITERALLY WHAT THIS IS AND NOBODY WILL CALL IT SUCH. We have been invaded.
Except he didn't say that. He said Trump at least understands what his voters want.
I've never heard of JD Vance but he makes some good points. Many Trump backers even in this thread have pointed out that if there is one thing the Dem party is good at, it's sticking up for their voters, for better or worse. Trump understands that - it's why he has such rabid support from his base and why people will spend hours and hours waiting to hear him speak at a rally.
Now, in reality, we all know that Trump is about as likely to spend a day hobnobbing with the good folks of Prestonsburg as I am to drink an appletini - he's rich, has always lived rich, and will continue to be the very definition of an elite. But you have to give him credit for recognizing that a large block of the country has been or at least felt neglected over the last couple of decades, and he acted on it. Kudos to him IMO.
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