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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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if trump is responsible for the economy then he is responsible for the deficit. Obama got no slack for his debt problems even though he didn't create the conditions that caused it. But lets get real here, neither party gives a shit about the debt. Whoever is in minority uses it to attack the other and both use it for elections. neither do anything about it, both just spend spend spend. Clinton took a stand and hacked away at his deficit but he had the benefit of a gigantic tech bubble inflating revenues.
So you are saying in 8 years he did nothing.
 

I fn knew it. Paddock was a govt pawn in the illegal weapons trade.

This is gonna be the best SOTU since George Washington. Great night for America. You’re either for us, or against us, and the dems are gonna look like stupid terrorists idiots trying to downplay Trump’s great American speech. Can’t wait.
 
  1. Prescott Bush- former senator. Directed bank tied to man who funded Hitler. Involved in failed coup to overthrow FDR. Yale grad. Skull and Bones.
  2. George H. W. Bush - Former CIA Director. Vice president and President. Yale grad. Skull and Bones. Iran-Contra drugs running through Mena, Ark. No clue where he was during JFK coup
  3. Billy Jeff Clinton - Former Governor of Arkansas during Iran-Contra and ran the drugs for GHWB through Mena. Yale grad. Skull and Bones
  4. George W. Bush- Yale grad. Skull and Bones. I love you daddy.
  5. Hussein Obama - Awan-Contra. Secretary of State = Hilldabeast the Yale grad. Protected the rapists. Involved in failed coup to overthrow DJT.

Think about the history and connections of the Bush/Clinton crime families. Think about how many appointed judges and deep rooted corrupt people they put in place. Think about that when DJT gives the SOTU speech. Make the connections. They thought she would win.
 
  1. Prescott Bush- former senator. Directed bank tied to man who funded Hitler. Involved in failed coup to overthrow FDR. Yale grad. Skull and Bones.
  2. George H. W. Bush - Former CIA Director. Vice president and President. Yale grad. Skull and Bones. Iran-Contra drugs running through Mena, Ark. No clue where he was during JFK coup
  3. Billy Jeff Clinton - Former Governor of Arkansas during Iran-Contra and ran the drugs for GHWB through Mena. Yale grad. Skull and Bones
  4. George W. Bush- Yale grad. Skull and Bones. I love you daddy.
  5. Hussein Obama - Awan-Contra. Secretary of State = Hilldabeast the Yale grad. Protected the rapists. Involved in failed coup to overthrow DJT.
Think about the history and connections of the Bush/Clinton crime families. Think about how many appointed judges and deep rooted corrupt people they put in place. Think about that when DJT gives the SOTU speech. Make the connections. They thought she would win.
Throw in the kennedys!
 
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  1. Prescott Bush- former senator. Directed bank tied to man who funded Hitler. Involved in failed coup to overthrow FDR. Yale grad. Skull and Bones.
  2. George H. W. Bush - Former CIA Director. Vice president and President. Yale grad. Skull and Bones. Iran-Contra drugs running through Mena, Ark. No clue where he was during JFK coup
  3. Billy Jeff Clinton - Former Governor of Arkansas during Iran-Contra and ran the drugs for GHWB through Mena. Yale grad. Skull and Bones
  4. George W. Bush- Yale grad. Skull and Bones. I love you daddy.
  5. Hussein Obama - Awan-Contra. Secretary of State = Hilldabeast the Yale grad. Protected the rapists. Involved in failed coup to overthrow DJT.
Think about the history and connections of the Bush/Clinton crime families. Think about how many appointed judges and deep rooted corrupt people they put in place. Think about that when DJT gives the SOTU speech. Make the connections. They thought she would win.

Did you mention the skull and bones?

The last guy who did that ended up getting tazed and yelling, “Don’t taze me, bro.”

 
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Throw in the kennedys!

John F. Kennedy Speeches

The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security.

Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired.

If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

 
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Just for accuracy sake, Republicans controlled Congress the last 6 years of Clinton's Presidency. I think it's a little bit of a stretch to say Clinton took a stand and hacked away at his deficit. Congress kind of forced his hand.
He vetoed the budget, shutdown the government, and forced the 7 year budget he wanted.
 
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