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They actually praised Obama for the same exact thing they're accusing Trump of.

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No, they are not the same thing. Not even remotely close to the same thing. We share intelligence with other nations all the time but it is done in ways not to compromise sources and methods and is done with the knowledge and blessings of the intelligence agencies.
 
No, they are not the same thing. Not even remotely close to the same thing. We share intelligence with other nations all the time but it is done in ways not to compromise sources and methods and is done with the knowledge and blessings of the intelligence agencies.

Ahh. So what was done differently this time?
 
My question to you is how do you know the accuracy of the WaPo story? I mean let's pretend they have been 100% accurate so when reporting on Trump.

This isn't me saying it is inaccurate, but before we go full bore over the cliff on every whim let's have at least some reservation.

Again I think the strategy is to focus on negative as a means to hopefully overcome the GOP in the next elections. They have all the power right now and the left is gung ho in getting it back, starting Nov 9 2016.

By any means necessary.
 
No, they are not the same thing. Not even remotely close to the same thing. We share intelligence with other nations all the time but it is done in ways not to compromise sources and methods and is done with the knowledge and blessings of the intelligence agencies.

The same intelligence agencies that are currently trying to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States?
 
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No, they are not the same thing. Not even remotely close to the same thing. We share intelligence with other nations all the time but it is done in ways not to compromise sources and methods and is done with the knowledge and blessings of the intelligence agencies.

ahh, you mean like using a secret server, lying about it and attempting to cover it up. you have absolutely no credibility here you know. i don't know why you torture yourself.
 
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Ahh. So what was done differently this time?
Revealing information with the knowledge and approval of the sources vs...

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

So you don't see a difference?
Why can you guys not admit it when this clown f#cks up?
 
ahh, you mean like using a secret server, lying about it and attempting to cover it up. you have absolutely no credibility here you know. i don't know why you torture yourself.
There was nothing secret about the server. Having a non State dept email address kind of gives that secret away.

But the claim was that Obama did the same thing...
 
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Revealing information with the knowledge and approval of the sources vs...

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

So you don't see a difference?
Why can you guys not admit it when this clown f#cks up?

Where has this been verified? Washington post
 
No, they are not the same thing. Not even remotely close to the same thing. We share intelligence with other nations all the time but it is done in ways not to compromise sources and methods and is done with the knowledge and blessings of the intelligence agencies.

There were 3 other Americans in the room with Trump, they know what was said. All 3 said that the story was false.

The Post used anonymous sources, they didn't speak to any of the 3 people in the room before running the story. So who else would know what was said in the room
if the story is true?
That would be the evil Russians, right?
 
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LOL. You'd think these freedom hating assholes called democrats would balk at these fake news stories by now.

A source close to the American people tells me most Americans don't believe a got damn word that is printed by these socialist wannabes.
 
Revealing information with the knowledge and approval of the sources vs...

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.

“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

So you don't see a difference?
Why can you guys not admit it when this clown f#cks up?

The Washington Post ran with a story that wasn't fact checked with the people that were actually in the GD room!
Why wouldn't they do that? Because they don't care if it's accurate, and neither do you. It's simply put out to garner hits, which they already celebrated tonight.
If it turns out to be inaccurate the damage is already done, which is all their interested in.
 
Do you use a shovel to bury your head into the sand?

Lol. Says the guy saying Hillary has done no wrong

No, just a story that has been outright refuted and uses a bunch of "top officiAls" doesn't register as fact to me.
 
The Washington Post ran with a story that wasn't fact checked with the people that were actually in the GD room!
Why wouldn't they do that? Because they don't care if it's accurate, and neither do you. It's simply put out to garner hits, which they already celebrated tonight.
If it turns out to be inaccurate the damage is already done, which is all their interested in.
Trump's "people in the room" have pretty questionable believability. Just like the multiple conflicting stories about why Comey was fired. How many different stories were floated around? Covering for the boss isn't anything new. And who is to say that the "people in the room" aren't the anonymous sources that simply don't want to be named because they know what happens to the people who don't toe the company line.
 
Trump's "people in the room" have pretty questionable believability. Just like the multiple conflicting stories about why Comey was fired. How many different stories were floated around? Covering for the boss isn't anything new. And who is to say that the "people in the room" aren't the anonymous sources that simply don't want to be named because they know what happens to the people who don't toe the company line.

Just stop posting for the night and go to fkng bed.
 
Lol. Says the guy saying Hillary has done no wrong

No, just a story that has been outright refuted and uses a bunch of "top officiAls" doesn't register as fact to me.
Never said she did no wrong. Just that the server wasn't a secret.

You guys argue like grade schoolers. Never accept responsibility, it's always someone else's fault and when the heat gets too hot, deflect.

What HRC did or did not do has zero bearing on what the clown-in-chief does.
 
I mean, Seth Rich was straight up murdered by the DNC (and more specifically, the Clintons). Anyone dispute that? Anyone? It's not even in the realm of a conspiracy at this point.

Catch a good buzz, reflect on THAT, and then get back with me on how bone-chilling it is.

But RQ claims that server wasn't a secret. It only got Seth murdered is all.
 
You guys argue like grade schoolers. Never accept responsibility

What HRC did or did not do has zero bearing on what the clown-in-chief does.

Amazing to see these two statements in the same post.

What responsibility should trump be held to?

No offense you can discredit his whole cabinet for all I care........but the same people you seem to trust have lied to you everyday since the "Trump isn't to be taken serious" reports sometime last year around this time.

Think about that for credibility purpose and the people you believe in!
 
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I mean, Seth Rich was straight up murdered by the DNC (and more specifically, the Clintons). Anyone dispute that? Anyone? It's not even in the realm of a conspiracy at this point.

Catch a good buzz, reflect on THAT, and then get back with me on how bone-chilling it is.

But RQ claims that server wasn't a secret. It only got Seth murdered is all.
If you've got proof of that, take it to the authorities. Otherwise you're simply guessing.
 
but it is done in ways not to compromise sources and methods
First off, you have no idea if the claims are even true. We're talking liberal media with an agenda and anonymous sources vs. everyone in the room on record. I know who I believe.

Also, according to everyone in the room, everything discussed neither compromised sources and/or methods. So what's your point?
 
If you've got proof of that, take it to the authorities. Otherwise you're simply guessing.
Just read about it and then reflect on it. Does anything else even remotely make sense? Do you even question it just a little? Not saying you have to be full on 100% like most people with common sense, but just a little?

Oh, and GFY. You obviously want me dead if you want me to "go to the authorities". I applaud that PI. Huge balls.
 
First off, you have no idea if the claims are even true. We're talking liberal media with an agenda and anonymous sources vs. everyone in the room on record. I know who I believe.

Also, according to everyone in the room, everything discussed neither compromised sources and/or methods. So what's your point?
Again, the people in the room work for Trump and it is very doubtful that they are going to go on record and dispute what Trump is now saying. Of course let's give it a week and see how many times Trump's story changes. Maybe Lester Holt can interview him again and he'll admit what he did and contradict all of those he has sent out to spin his story.
 
Why can you guys not admit it when this clown f#cks up?
Why can't you admit the media makes shit up, purposely trying to undermine the president? There are dozens of examples.

If you've got proof of that, take it to the authorities. Otherwise you're simply guessing.

You're a fvcking clown. In here asking for proof of something while simultaneously taking WaPo's story as 100% fact without nary a shred of proof, and multiple people on record, not anonymously, saying it flat out didn't happen.
 
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Again, the people in the room work for Trump and it is very doubtful that they are going to go on record and dispute what Trump is now saying.
Again, you better read up on McMaster before further making yourself look even more ignorant. The man wrote the book, literally, on speaking truth to power.
 
Seth Rich spent his entire adult life devoting himself to the Democratic Party. Yet, here are his parents hiring a PI because even they think he was murdered by them.

But RQ/Fuzz doesn't think it should be questioned. Just a random coincidence with no leads/evidence on what they say was an impulsive crime. What a crock of shit. Should make every American's blood BOIL.
 
Just read about it and then reflect on it. Does anything else even remotely make sense? Do you even question it just a little? Not saying you have to be full on 100% like most people with common sense, but just a little?

Oh, and GFY. You obviously want me dead if you want me to "go to the authorities". I applaud that PI. Huge balls.
How about someone from wikileaks calling for the hit in an attempt to frame HRC?
How about the possibility that it was simply a random act of violence?

Why would he have gone to wikileaks to start with? That to me screams of desperation and the possibility that he was involved in something deeper.

You may be right...but you may also be very wrong. There is a reason we don't convict people simply based upon circumstantial evidence.
 
Trump's "people in the room" have pretty questionable believability.

Wouldn't it be one of the Trump ppl in the room leaking this to WaPo? Not exactly an open free for all meeting...not sure how you can question the believability of the ppl in the room, yet believe the WaPo story....unless of course WaPo is in bed with the Russians and are getting their information that way.
 
Again, you better read up on McMaster before further making yourself look even more ignorant. The man wrote the book, literally, on speaking truth to power.
Anybody can write a fricken book. And i reiterate the possibility that source came from within the room.
 
Wouldn't it be one of the Trump ppl in the room leaking this to WaPo? Not exactly an open free for all meeting...not sure how you can question the believability of the ppl in the room, yet believe the WaPo story....unless of course WaPo is in bed with the Russians and are getting their information that way.
The Post has a much better record with the truth than does Trump.
 
I'm not convicting anybody, hoss. Just pointing out the likelihood he was straight up murdered by the DNC. And how it's not far fetched at all to think it. That is scary shit.

I'd place 'random act of violence' at the bottom of the list. Yet, the "authorities" went that route with a quickness and then shut it off. Bullshit. It's just disturbing to think about.

There are a lot of people out there that view the democratic leadership as a group who would be willing to do this. And, again, it's not a crazy stretch to think it when you look at this story.
 
Anybody can write a fricken book.

[laughing] Anyone can write a hit pieces on the Internet, too. Yeah, you're right, though. One of America's most notable, decorated war heroes, who also wrote a book based on his personal experiences of actually speaking truth to power is just a big, fat phony. It was all just an act. He's actually a Trump "yes man", willing to damage the very country he risked his life for, all so he can tell lies for Trump.

And i reiterate the possibility that source came from within the room.

But I though the people in the room weren't believable? Yep, you're a clown. Talking mad shit out of both sides of your mouth, every other post.
 
The Post has a much better record with the truth than does Trump.
The source would be from that room. It's either Trumps non believable crew, or the Russians. Or they made it up...you've talked yourself into a bad position - you must believe the Russian sources are solid.
 
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