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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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I remember when i was young.

If I president. I'd legalize murder like that Phillipino Duernte guy.

If murder legalized. Man, I'd kill people who thought they were in the clear. Yeah. Somebody might kill me. But I'd be on the offensive. Vigilante. We need that.

ha. Atomic Wedgie would have been enough for those kids.
 
and.....our close friend of the American people....and the American soil....John "I LIKE WARRRR" Crackcaine.....warns us .....WARNS US (from Europe).......

that the New World Order ..... whatever THAT is......

is under tremendous STRAIN with idiots waking up all 'round
THATS where the fight's coming from folks -- that nebulous, blood sucking, slavery lusting Babylonian Mile High Club -- the N-Dubya-Oh

Here's a quote from the ol Nutcase - I wonder WHICH form of "radicalism" he's talking about???

The world "cries out for American and European leadership" through the EU and Nato, US senator John McCain said on Friday (24 March).

In a "new world order under enormous strain" and in "the titanic struggle with forces of radicalism … we can't stand by and lament, we've got to be involved," said McCain, a former Republican presidential candidate who is now chairman of the armed services committee in the US Senate.

"I trust the EU," he said, defending an opposite view from that of US president Donald Trump...."


https://euobserver.com/foreign/137376
 
and.....our close friend of the American people....and the American soil....John "I LIKE WARRRR" Crackcaine.....warns us .....WARNS US (from Europe).......

that the New World Order ..... whatever THAT is......

is under tremendous STRAIN with idiots waking up all 'round
THATS where the fight's coming from folks -- that nebulous, blood sucking, slavery lusting Babylonian Mile High Club -- the N-Dubya-Oh

Here's a quote from the ol Nutcase - I wonder WHICH form of "radicalism" he's talking about???

The world "cries out for American and European leadership" through the EU and Nato, US senator John McCain said on Friday (24 March).

In a "new world order under enormous strain" and in "the titanic struggle with forces of radicalism … we can't stand by and lament, we've got to be involved," said McCain, a former Republican presidential candidate who is now chairman of the armed services committee in the US Senate.

"I trust the EU," he said, defending an opposite view from that of US president Donald Trump...."


https://euobserver.com/foreign/137376



Love your stuff man. Keeep on keeeepin on
 
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Ok you guys are comical......I won't go as far as Z in calling you trump lickers(basically) but Christ I told all of you 2 weeks ago Trump was positioned perfect to have this bill fail, and you guys were dead set everything is great and golden, then I said it also allows people that love Obama to get royally screwed by his stupidity and it still be Obama's fault, and you all said no way this is step one in a 3 step process Krazy you are just stupid and a trump hater.

FYI if you think Trump wanted this POS bill passed on his name you are a trump licker. I know it's fun to win and rub the democrats nose in dog poo, but please post with a common knowledge of logic.

Why TF would a man that bashed the last president and in the process of getting him or his admin charged with criminal actions as they left bail that same dipshit out?

Trump hates Obama and he does not intend to help him by fixing his stupidity or help his followers that Obamacare will destroy and push them to socialist worlds not America.

This is a free market move.
 
I'll be honest - the health care issues are my weakest area for pretty much ANY political conversation --- here are some things I can say about that "world"

1) Any F'ing series of laws and agreements that are too complex to be explained -- were never really understood by our politicians.....and too Institutionally BINDING for us to reverse......WHILE NOT REQUIRING THE PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS TO SIGN UP.........is not to be trusted -- and it won't end well

-- also the new health care system should always be mentioned hand in hand with the movement to turn millions of non-citizens into "Citizens" with full benefits etc.....(check out the demands from groups like La Raza to see where I'm coming from).....so ... in all likelihood - we're not JUST getting burdensome, poorly managed, lower quality, bureaucratic-laden, Govt-managed health care......but we WERE poised to turn around and also award those tax funded benefits to MILLIONS of people who aren't paying into the system.

That's a hell of a one-two shot to the Ol' Tommyknockers

2) Whatever verbiage is in the health care laws that allows Congress to opt out --- should just be duplicated via amendment and extend that offer to all participating companies and all citizens.......isn't that REALLY the only reform that's needed right away?
Pollyanna-Ish I know....

3) Govt managed health care has been in place with the V/A for ... :LONG TIME, GI.......i guess that was the half-assed version or something.....I'm SURE this shit will be SO MUCH DARNED Better in EVERY WAY

Finally - Trump isn't going to succeed on everything he sets out to do --
Especially when you consider how our first True OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM PRESIDENT Since......??.........Regan maybe?.......he has enemies all over the place -- ALL KINDS of people getting their boats rocked and their comfy political careers made more....difficult.....

It's a wonder he'll get anything done and I sincerely wonder whether he'll survive his 4 year term....

The health care issue is a major one --- but it seems counter-productive and intellectually dishonest to make it sound like he's somehow just experienced some kind of CANT FROM BACK FROM THATY -- type of defeat

What we're hearing are the shrill words of a threatened, angry, scared institutionalized system of PROPAGANDA.
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Ok you guys are comical......I won't go as far as Z in calling you trump lickers(basically) but Christ I told all of you 2 weeks ago Trump was positioned perfect to have this bill fail, and you guys were dead set everything is great and golden, then I said it also allows people that love Obama to get royally screwed by his stupidity and it still be Obama's fault, and you all said no way this is step one in a 3 step process Krazy you are just stupid and a trump hater.

FYI if you think Trump wanted this POS bill passed on his name you are a trump licker. I know it's fun to win and rub the democrats nose in dog poo, but please post with a common knowledge of logic.

Why TF would a man that bashed the last president and in the process of getting him or his admin charged with criminal actions as they left bail that same dipshit out?

Trump hates Obama and he does not intend to help him by fixing his stupidity or help his followers that Obamacare will destroy and push them to socialist worlds not America.

This is a free market move.
Trump did not become an ultra successful billionaire being an idiot. This guy is on another level than most of the idiots we have in Congress no matter how much you hate the guy. Like I said a few days ago, part of me felt he was setting Ryan up to get ousted but I agree with Krazy that he is not going to bail Obama or the Dems out. They will be begging him for a deal down the road. Sucks for a lot Americans right now but big picture may be the best thing for everyone to let this thing play out.
 
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Interesting.

Trump tweeted this morning to watch Judge Pirros show on Fox tonight.

Her first segment was ripping Paul Ryan. She also said he must step down.
 
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I'm 10000000% convinced that a big part of this bill was for it to crush Paul Ryan.

Yes, he wants Obamacare to collapse too, but he wanted Paul Ryan out. This was his way of doing it.

Trump might be the best political strategist we've ever had as President. He was playing chess as Paul Ryan was playing checkers. Check mate, bitches.

Trump has clearly read The Art Of War. He did the same thing to Romney.
 
I'm 10000000% convinced that a big part of this bill was for it to crush Paul Ryan.

Yes, he wants Obamacare to collapse too, but he wanted Paul Ryan out. This was his way of doing it.

Trump might be the best political strategist we've ever had as President. He was playing chess as Paul Ryan was playing checkers. Check mate, bitches.

Trump has clearly read The Art Of War. He did the same thing to Romney.


He crushes Obama Care and Ryan Care.
 
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As frequently happens these past few weeks - our conversation here cross pollinates over to my blog.

Posted a quick article on McCain's reference to The NWO being "strained" right now...and how the US and the EU need to work together to fight ""radicalism"

https://wordpress.com/post/50ampfuse.blog/4527

https://wordpress.com/post/50ampfuse.blog/4715

I honestly think he means people who oppose the NWO - including Putin and Trump

Also posted a LONG article last last night / early this a/m on the bullshitski surrounding the NFL, NBA and NCAA suddenly becoming righteous holy warriors aligned against NC's radical, democratic decision to --- have boys use the boys toilet and have girls use the girls toilet.

I guess they may have to soon add Texas to their list of banned states.

As always - the blog has no ad's / I make no $ (and I'm unemployed) -- I just think that writing about all the history I've read and the theories that are swirling around in my head --- is my "one little thing" that could change -- even ONE MIND

Also posting 2 new quick videos with the Strat in case any of you play guitar - another thread of course

Have a nice night - probably show back up around 2am ish
 
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Before anyone gets going, I think it's pretty safe to say the Cincinnati nightclub shooting has nothing to do with Muslims. As a middle class white person in the Cincinnati area not involved in drugs or gangs, Club Cameo was not a place to frequent.
 
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Before anyone gets going, I think it's pretty safe to say the Cincinnati nightclub shooting has nothing to do with Muslims. As a middle class white person in the Cincinnati area not involved in drugs or gangs, Club Cameo was not a place to frequent.

if you've ever watched "Parks and Rec" -- that sounds like a place jean raffio and Tommy would hang
 
BTW, the only ones who have been unwilling to sacrifice and compromise on this bill are the Freedom Caucus. Trump has had several negotiation meetings with them, resulting in several amendments, giving them exactly what they asked for and wanted.

Every time he did they came back "Well, but only if they'll change this". That got changed and they came back again "Well, but only if they'll change that." There's a reason he called them out today and gave them a take it or leave it ultimatum. He's thrown them plenty to celebrate a victory over, and they're not going to get it 100% their way, regardless of their feelings. That's not the way this works.
B.S.

This POS bill was a loser, written by the insurance industry.

The Freedom Caucus did Trump a huge favor here.

If Trump wants a 2nd term, he needs to get Paul Ryan out of the Speakership ASAP and get someone in there who will actually advance the agenda (immigration/actual repeal of Ocare/Nationalist policies) that got him elected.

Ryan is reviled by Trump's base for a reason.
 
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This POS bill was a loser, written by the insurance industry.

I agree. It was a POS bill, but at least it was trying to meet in the middle, and give everyone, moderate Republicans and Freedom Caucus Republicans, something.

You see, moderate and establishment Republicans are never going to vote for a full repeal. They've gone down the entitlement health care rabbit hole. They look at taking entitlements from their constituents as political suicide. Far right Republicans are never going to vote for any semblance of health care entitlements. That leaves the entire party in a stalemate, without the votes to pass any bill.

Yes, I know, Obamacare is going to eventually fail, then when it does, we'll be right back to where we started Friday with the far right refusing to vote for entitlement health care, and the moderates and establishment refusing to vote for a full repeal, leaving Trump with very few options.

If both sides, moderates/establishment and Freedom Caucus/far right, don't get their heads out of there asses and meet in the middle, going forward it's looking like the only way a health care bill gets passed is with support from Democrats, which puts them in a position of power, and the only way they'll give support is if the new bill is to their liking, a fix for Obamacare that leaves it fully intact.

get someone in there who will actually advance the agenda (actual repeal of Ocare)

Sounds good, and I agree, but there's one very big problem, they don't have the votes for a full repeal. Rand Paul's bill was a full repeal of Obamacare and it got less support among Republicans than Ryan's bill because "it went too far".

Trump can't make the moderates and establishment vote for a full repeal, just like he couldn't make the Freedom Caucus vote for a half assed, middle of the road repeal. Only way this happens is if both sides sacrifice, work together, and give some things up. As shitty as Ryan's bill was, that's exactly what it was trying to do.
 
They need to vote on full repeal.

Get those cocksuckers on the record so their constituents can compare who promised full repeal while campaigning (and getting elected to repeal) with who actually voted to repeal when push came to shove.

If Trump actually cares about repeal that's what he needs to push for. It will get all of the republican party's bullshit tossed to the side.

No backdoor bullshit dealing trying to whip votes. You go on the record with your vote. Yes or no. Repeal or not. Let the people they represent then decide how to respond.
 
They need to vote on full repeal.

Get those cocksuckers on the record so their constituents can compare who promised full repeal while campaigning (and getting elected to repeal) with who actually voted to repeal when push came to shove.

If Trump actually cares about repeal that's what he needs to push for. It will get all of the republican party's bullshit tossed to the side.

No backdoor bullshit dealing trying to whip votes. You go on the record with your vote. Yes or no. Repeal or not. Let the people they represent then decide how to respond.
The c-suckers had no problems voting for it when they knew Barry Soetoro would summarily veto it.

I honestly may actually despise the GOP more than the Dims. At least the Dims are up front with their marxist/communist agenda.

Which is why Trump has gotta get HIS agenda that he WON the election on moving, not the GOP dogshit corportist/Globalist BS agenda or his presidency will be a failure and the ONE group who legitimately has his back, his BASE, will end up despising him more than the Democrats do.
 
They need to vote on full repeal.

Get those cocksuckers on the record so their constituents can compare who promised full repeal while campaigning (and getting elected to repeal) with who actually voted to repeal when push came to shove.

If Trump actually cares about repeal that's what he needs to push for. It will get all of the republican party's bullshit tossed to the side.
I agree with this as well, but it needs to be done in a different way. Which way? I'm not so sure, but the sell outs do need to be brought to the forefront and held accountable.

Imo, though, holding a full repeal vote is a bad move for Trump. Yes, it'll get the sell outs on record, but it'll also be a second health care bill that failed to pass, giving the Democrats another win, further hampering Trump's agenda to get things done. Not sure Trump has enough political capital at this point to take that chance.
 
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LMAO

1. HOAs are pretty bold these days. I mean, wtf. I know, she signed something giving hoa power to harass her over petty shit, but wtf. How did we get here?

2. She probably should not have sent in an official request after they asked for it. Maybe they couldn't ask her to take it down, but now she looks weak for asking permission that was officially denied.

How tf does this crap happen? Is this just the "trophy" generation growing up and everybody wanting their way, or else? It's weird. But this bs "I DONT LIKE YOUR OPINION OR STYLE IM TELLING!!!!!" stuff is out of control. Wish old people would take this country back, tbh. We have given it away to children.

GBB!!!!
 
They need to vote on full repeal.

Get those cocksuckers on the record so their constituents can compare who promised full repeal while campaigning (and getting elected to repeal) with who actually voted to repeal when push came to shove.

If Trump actually cares about repeal that's what he needs to push for. It will get all of the republican party's bullshit tossed to the side.

No backdoor bullshit dealing trying to whip votes. You go on the record with your vote. Yes or no. Repeal or not. Let the people they represent then decide how to respond.

No one cares about repeal. It will repeal itself as the costs go through the roof and becomes useless.
 
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I guess Trump and all the legislators who ran on a platform of repealing Obamacare didn't get the memo that no one cares about repeal.
 
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