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that would leave 24 million uninsured.

By choice. What CNN isn't telling you is that number is an estimate that they believe will opt out of buying insurance once they are given back free will, and there is no longer the overreaching, big government mandate forcing them to buy it.

So is fuzz/rq saying 24m people will have their insurance cancelled?

He fell for the fake new just like Z.
 
By choice. What CNN isn't telling you is that number is an estimate that they believe will opt out of buying insurance once they are given back free will, and there is no longer the overreaching, big government mandate forcing them to buy it.



He fell for the fake new just like Z.
Bullshit. The number is largely made up of people who would lose coverage that are currently covered under the Medicaid expansion by the states and reduced subsidies for the working poor who don't receive coverage through work and could not afford to pay premiums. Example: 64 yr old man earning $26,000 would see premiums of $14K+. Makes too much to qualify for Medicaid, too young for Medicare.
Lastly, people without insurance will still use the system...they however are unlikely going to be able to pay which means the cost of their care will be shifted to those with insurance...in turn raising the cost of insurance.
 
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If we repeal Obamacare, and the CBO says 25 million people will lose Obamacare until something else is put in place, so be it.

I'm willing to take that risk to save hundreds of millions of Americans for generations to come from suffering under the weight of one of the worst pieces of legislation passed in our country's history.


There are plenty of reasons to hate Paul Ryan and his shitty health care plan. A CBO bullshit estimate doesn't even crack the top 100.
 
This is legit. Deleted but I wonder who will get fired over it. Of course McDonalds claims they were hacked. I guess the Russians are pissed at Trump now:

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We can only conclude that former Obama voters who voted fro Trump did so because they fear a more diverse country....and there weren't many facts in that piece.
 
You guys are really pathetic. I made an internet bet with brady, no i didn't pay it and none of you would either. Not sure why you think fuzz and i are the same person but hey, it's the internet and you can believe whatever you want. Just like the clown-in-chief.
What goes on in your brain that tells you when to switch from your @fuzz77 mult to the @rqarnold one or vice versa?[jumpingsmile]
 
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Weed literally could change Kentucky overnight. Terraform it in the very poorest regions where such a valuable cash crop is needed. Money would flow into all those devastated regions and hollowed out downtowns. Small rural businesses would boom with new activity.

Kentucky farmers are ready for this better than anyone else. Time to end the idiotic stigma over marijuana. We already are at the forefront in hemp farming. The transition for Kentucky would be smoother and we're more ready to take on this challenge and benefit from it than any other state.

Yea and Ohioans would run down I75 like the diarrhea they are. No thanks. Patience.

Takes a giant revenue source away from Mexican drug runners bringing that shit across the border, too.

Not really. Medicinal weed has crushed the cartels MJ business already. Americans in every state have access to top notch American weed Thats why cartels focused more on heroin/meth.

You're not gonna stop cartel money. And coke will always be king. We ain't legalizing that. So then what?
 
^ That was a huge waste of reading time.

No kidding. These types of articles always kill me.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...oted-whites-in-2012-the-first-time-on-record/

See? The facts concerning Obama's election show you that race played a major role in his win.

And most people aren't "afraid of diversity". Look around... America is as diverse as they come. The recent division in this country comes from Obama's mishandling of situations and our media.

Obama by not enforcing laws and taking sides. You don't condem police publicly without knowing the whole story (he did that on multiple occasions). You don't bring up race every time you talk (he did that a lot).
By taking sides and constantly bringing up race as a factor in everything, he encouraged people who are racist. He made them feel justified in their actions. You also don't let a stupid thing like sanctuary cities be ignored. If an American citizen murders, assaults, or rapes someone they need to arrested. Why would this not apply to an illegal immigrant?? It's baffling.

The media for falsely representing opinions (or flat out lies) as facts. The media has two agendas. One is to get the story out first by any means necessary... facts be damned. The second is to make the story out to be worse than it is. They do this a lot by making the headline sound awful, while the actual body goes into more detail the third paragraph in. Most people don't have time to read every article they see, much less fact check it. If the media got back to reporting the news rather than giving their opinion on what's right or wrong, this country would be a lot better off.
 
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Trump border wall: Texans receiving letters about their land

Even before Donald Trump was inaugurated, U.S. citizens who own land along the border reportedly began receiving letters from the Justice Department informing them that the federal government wants their land to build a fence (i.e. the president’s border wall), that it intends to acquire their land, and the amount of compensation the government is offering.

Yvette Salinas, a Texan whose ailing mother owns a small parcel of land with her siblings near the Rio Grande was informed by the “Declaration of Taking” letter sent by DOJ that her 1.2 acres was worth $2,900, according to a a story in the Texas Observer. She told the Observer that the family’s 16 acres has been in her family for five generations. The government’s letter asks recipients to sign in order to receive compensation, acknowledge that they “do not have an interest” in the case or do not intend to make a claim. It doesn’t really say what landowners should do if, like Salinas, they don’t want to sell their land.

Salinas called the letter “scary” and said “you feel you have to sign.” Her family is consulting a lawyer about its next steps. If other border landowners have the same reluctance to sell as Salinas, the government may have a long battle ahead to secure all the land necessary for the wall, given that the federal government doesn’t own most of it. The nearly 2,000-mile southern border is composed of federal, state, tribal and private lands. There are 632 miles of federal or tribal land -- 33 percent -- and the other 67 percent, most of which is in Texas, is private or state-owned, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The Washington Post points out that the president would need Congress to pass a bill to acquire the tribal lands for his wall.
 
Or, they could just move a few hundred or thousands of yards inside the border and build the wall and let those that don't want to sell their land keep their land.

Of course, they'd be on the wrong side of the wall looking in....
 
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Cite your work
I hate to agree with him but those are the numbers Eric Bowling gave on The Five yesterday. And he is as conservative as it gets. And he's a great numbers guy.

Hoping he's wrong but he said 65+ folks would see a 53% increase. Don't know why the republicans would do that to one of their largest voting blocks.
 
If we repeal Obamacare, and the CBO says 25 million people will lose Obamacare until something else is put in place, so be it.

I'm willing to take that risk to save hundreds of millions of Americans for generations to come from suffering under the weight of one of the worst pieces of legislation passed in our country's history.


There are plenty of reasons to hate Paul Ryan and his shitty health care plan. A CBO bullshit estimate doesn't even crack the top 100.
Remind us all your qualifications to determine the effects of legislation and why you are better equipped to do so.
 
My city has a right of way on the streets and the state has a right of way on the roads. Utility companies have right of ways. Does the border of our country not have a right of way?

I'm against eminent domain in cases where it only benefits a certain group of people. In this case I'm all for it. The needs of the country outweigh the need for you to have that particular 1.6 acres.
 
Nervous GOP senators rooting for Ryan to fail

A growing number of GOP senators are hoping the House fails to pass its bill to repeal and replace ObamaCare so they won’t be blamed for killing it in the upper chamber.

Support for the House legislation has “disintegrated” in the Senate, according one Republican senator who requested anonymity to discuss internal conference politics.

It will require substantial revisions to win the support of moderate Republicans in the upper chamber — something that will likely make it unacceptable to conservatives.

Given what looks like an unbridgeable divide in the Senate GOP conference, some are saying that it would be better if the bill dies in the House......................................

“It’s tough to vote for policy that hurts people,” the senator added..................................

Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.), who is emerging as a leading voice in the Senate healthcare debate, called the projection “eye-popping” and “awful.”............................
 
Remind us all your qualifications to determine the effects of legislation and why you are better equipped to do so.
Remind us why you refused to honor a bet.

Remind us why you use an alt, Fuzz, and why you pretended to be associated with the University of Missouri as you continuously defended the UK athletics department every time it was questioned.

Remind us why you are a liberal moonbat.
 
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I hate to agree with him but those are the numbers Eric Bowling gave on The Five yesterday. And he is as conservative as it gets. And he's a great numbers guy.

Hoping he's wrong but he said 65+ folks would see a 53% increase. Don't know why the republicans would do that to one of their largest voting blocks.
Let's see what comes out of the Senate or if it just dies. Unlike the original bill there is internal debate.
 
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If we repeal Obamacare, and the CBO says 25 million people will lose Obamacare until something else is put in place, so be it.

I'm willing to take that risk to save hundreds of millions of Americans for generations to come from suffering under the weight of one of the worst pieces of legislation passed in our country's history.


There are plenty of reasons to hate Paul Ryan and his shitty health care plan. A CBO bullshit estimate doesn't even crack the top 100.
Bill, Paul Ryan's plan is obviously Trumps plan as he is out their pimping for it.

There is a reason that nobody can solve this problem. What do you not understand? Healthcare premiums were rising an average of 8-10% a year prior to Obamacare and millions were uninsured, it has simply continued at that pace. As healthcare goes up, the cost of Medicare goes up. 30% of healthcare dollars are spent on end-of-life care. 5% of patients are responsible for 50% of the cost.

The free market will squeeze every dollar they can get out of their products. That's what the free market does! The market doesn't care how many people are served, it cares about the greatest return on investment.

When those 25 million lose coverage they become non-paying participants out of necessity, they will continue to use the system in the most expensive manner possible because they will be seen in the emergency rooms and will have progressed diseases that are more expensive to treat...and the cost will be shifted to those who are paying.
 
Some Military Experts Say Trump’s Defense Budget Doesn’t Add Up

It appeared to be a classically braggadocios claim from President Donald Trump: The new administration's budget for 2018 would add $54 billion to the defense budget, "one of the largest increases in national defense spending in American history," the president claimed in his first address to both chambers of Congress.

But the numbers — as well as the history — don't quite add up, experts say.

"It's an Obama-esque budget with a Trump-sized sales pitch," Paul Scharre, senior fellow and director of the Future of Warfare Initiative at the Center for a New American Security and Iraq War veteran, told NBC News.

Mark Cancian, senior adviser to the CSIS International Security Program and a former division chief at the Office of Management and Budget, said "it took about half a day to figure out where the $54 billion came from. After half a day, it became clear that they were measuring from the budget control caps, so it's really an increase from a decrease."

President Barack Obama signed the Budget Control Act in 2011, which capped federal spending until 2021. The legislation is a result of a compromise between Democrats and Republicans, and says that defense programs can't grow without comparable investment in domestic social programs.

Proponents say these caps have become a significant impediment to expand military spending and have brought down defense expenditures in recent years. Opponents say the caps have led to dangerous personnel and equipment shortfalls and are asking Congress to repeal the limits on defense spending.

"So the increase is not as large as people were expecting," Cancian added. "Obama had proposed an increasing of something like $35 billion above the caps, and Trump is proposing another $18 (billion) or so."


In the budget plan shared by the White House, the Trump administration attempted to sell their proposal as a 10 percent increase for fiscal year 2018. The administration said it would pay for the increase by making large cuts to the State Department and Environmental Protection Agency.

On Monday, 120 three- and four-star generals and flag officers stated their concern about cuts to the State Department and Foreign Affairs Budget.............
 
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I hate to agree with him but those are the numbers Eric Bowling gave on The Five yesterday. And he is as conservative as it gets. And he's a great numbers guy.

Hoping he's wrong but he said 65+ folks would see a 53% increase. Don't know why the republicans would do that to one of their largest voting blocks.
HA!
Ask Eric for his work.
 
Remind us all your qualifications to determine the effects of legislation and why you are better equipped to do so.


I'm a bar certified attorney and a CPA. My job depends on my abilities to research the tax code and supporting rules and regulations, analyze those laws and apply those laws to a given set of facts.

So yes, I'm undoubtedly more qualified to determine the impacts of legislation than you are at anything you've done in your life.
 
Some Military Experts Say Trump’s Defense Budget Doesn’t Add Up

It appeared to be a classically braggadocios claim from President Donald Trump: The new administration's budget for 2018 would add $54 billion to the defense budget, "one of the largest increases in national defense spending in American history," the president claimed in his first address to both chambers of Congress.

But the numbers — as well as the history — don't quite add up, experts say.

"It's an Obama-esque budget with a Trump-sized sales pitch," Paul Scharre, senior fellow and director of the Future of Warfare Initiative at the Center for a New American Security and Iraq War veteran, told NBC News.

Mark Cancian, senior adviser to the CSIS International Security Program and a former division chief at the Office of Management and Budget, said "it took about half a day to figure out where the $54 billion came from. After half a day, it became clear that they were measuring from the budget control caps, so it's really an increase from a decrease."

President Barack Obama signed the Budget Control Act in 2011, which capped federal spending until 2021. The legislation is a result of a compromise between Democrats and Republicans, and says that defense programs can't grow without comparable investment in domestic social programs.

Proponents say these caps have become a significant impediment to expand military spending and have brought down defense expenditures in recent years. Opponents say the caps have led to dangerous personnel and equipment shortfalls and are asking Congress to repeal the limits on defense spending.

"So the increase is not as large as people were expecting," Cancian added. "Obama had proposed an increasing of something like $35 billion above the caps, and Trump is proposing another $18 (billion) or so."


In the budget plan shared by the White House, the Trump administration attempted to sell their proposal as a 10 percent increase for fiscal year 2018. The administration said it would pay for the increase by making large cuts to the State Department and Environmental Protection Agency.

On Monday, 120 three- and four-star generals and flag officers stated their concern about cuts to the State Department and Foreign Affairs Budget.............


You typically post anti Trump articles. Surprised you'd post one stating he's not pissing away as much money on defense as he claimed.
 
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