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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
so why by your theory here Fuzz, and going just on your assumption, why wouldn't your crown prince Obama release his birth certificate? even though Hillary did start that one, everyone on the right was called every racist name in the book for even mentioning it, yet you use the same analogy for tax returns and it is completely different now, right?

you are easily owned.
And @fuzz77 pay your damn bet to @bradyjames, jackass.
 
so why by your theory here Fuzz, and going just on your assumption, why wouldn't your crown prince Obama release his birth certificate? even though Hillary did start that one, everyone on the right was called every racist name in the book for even mentioning it, yet you use the same analogy for tax returns and it is completely different now, right?

you are easily owned.

Oh but he did release it. It's just that it didn't matter what he released there were those who claimed it was fake. And if Hillary did start it, she quickly stopped and let it go because she knew the truth.

And I don't quite follow your logic...or lack thereof. Never has any other POTUS candidate been asked to release their birth certificate but they have all voluntarily released their tax returns. But you're an idiot so I can see how you would be confused.

BTW, if I'm ever owned it won't be by you. But good attempt. You must have learned that move in what...3rd, 4th grade? Make some comment that is complete and utter nonsense and then claim that you own somebody. I hope you aren't over 13 years old as you look like a complete fool.
 
The tax Trump paid in 2005 is the tax Trump wants to abolish

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Jim Edwards 4 hrs ago

"President Donald Trump wants to abolish the "Alternative Minimum Tax" (AMT) that, according to a copy of his federal tax return, cost him $31 million in 2005.

President Donald Trump wants to abolish the "Alternative Minimum Tax" (AMT) that, according to a copy of his federal tax return, cost him $31 million in 2005.
Trump said he wanted to abolish the AMT in 2016
when he was on the campaign trail:

"All ... Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II."

If the AMT didn't exist, Trump would have paid only a fraction of his 2005 bill. Trump's return shows that alongside the AMT adjustment the other taxes he paid total only about $7 million, or 4.5% of his $153 million in total income. As it is, Trump paid an effective tax rate of about 25% on his income."
The AMT is a silly tax. Tell contractors to compute income using completed contract method for tax method. Then, compute income using percentage completion method for AMT taxable income. The AMT tax is then available as a tax credit against regular tax in subsequent years. This is insane!
 
Willy, there is no real information on pages 1-2 of a 1040. Maybe that's all you've ever had to do but Trump's tax returns are literally 100+ pages long. Let's see his Schedule C and all of the supporting worksheets. And let's not cherry pick one year. Release complete returns from the last 5 years and put the story to bed.

You sound like you want a witch hunt, maybe we should search Elvis and Tupac, or reinvestigate roswell and maybe open up a new investigation into JFK too!

As group democrats took Obama at his word 100% of the time, yet with Trump you all aren't convinced by even the most obvious evidence.

Christ get a grip, Trump is going no where and people like you are on the cusp of getting him re-elected 3 years before the election.
 
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And Willy is all in on supporting these jackasses, too. I never will understand the radicalization of Willy into a right wing nutcase. He is one of us to the very core fiber of his being. I just don't understand what has happened to him?

Shit. He ain't doing shit. Before you get crazy Z. Let him mess with my weed and I'll turn on him just like Judus and Brutus.

Until then he is the best bet to prosecute obama or hillary.
 
Weed literally could change Kentucky overnight. Terraform it in the very poorest regions where such a valuable cash crop is needed. Money would flow into all those devastated regions and hollowed out downtowns. Small rural businesses would boom with new activity.

Kentucky farmers are ready for this better than anyone else. Time to end the idiotic stigma over marijuana. We already are at the forefront in hemp farming. The transition for Kentucky would be smoother and we're more ready to take on this challenge and benefit from it than any other state.
 
Bill, nobody knows what they will find if they don't see them. The question is, what is being hidden? If you hide something from me then I can only assume there is something you don't want me to know.
You're speculating that we wouldn't find anything... If I'm wrong then what has been lost? However, if you are wrong...


Bahaha I bet you made the same post during the Time it took obama to release his birth certificate.

The reason others haven't is because there birth was never in question. But your democrat nominee called obamas into question yet how long did it take him to release it?

This tax return mess is a bunch of nonsense. Career politicians know how to setup tax returns In order to not have much questioned. It's exactly why the clintons have been forced to amend and refill theirs numerous times.
 
Bahaha I bet you made the same post during the Time it took obama to release his birth certificate.

The reason others haven't is because there birth was never in question. But your democrat nominee called obamas into question yet how long did it take him to release it?

This tax return mess is a bunch of nonsense. Career politicians know how to setup tax returns In order to not have much questioned. It's exactly why the clintons have been forced to amend and refill theirs numerous times.

Jo'anna Ha'nnee
 
The tax Trump paid in 2005 is the tax Trump wants to abolish

Business Insider
Jim Edwards 4 hrs ago

"President Donald Trump wants to abolish the "Alternative Minimum Tax" (AMT) that, according to a copy of his federal tax return, cost him $31 million in 2005.

President Donald Trump wants to abolish the "Alternative Minimum Tax" (AMT) that, according to a copy of his federal tax return, cost him $31 million in 2005.
Trump said he wanted to abolish the AMT in 2016
when he was on the campaign trail:

"All ... Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II."

If the AMT didn't exist, Trump would have paid only a fraction of his 2005 bill. Trump's return shows that alongside the AMT adjustment the other taxes he paid total only about $7 million, or 4.5% of his $153 million in total income. As it is, Trump paid an effective tax rate of about 25% on his income."
Yeah, he needs to get down to the democrats percentage. Funny how you guys say " Oh my God! He only paid $38 million in taxes" Can't you morons see the ignorance of your stance ? No? The party of the educated (self proclaimed, not reality):uzi:
 
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Willy, there is no real information on pages 1-2 of a 1040. Maybe that's all you've ever had to do but Trump's tax returns are literally 100+ pages long. Let's see his Schedule C and all of the supporting worksheets. And let's not cherry pick one year. Release complete returns from the last 5 years and put the story to bed.
what about your hero's who have paid much less?
 
If there's ever anyone on this board who I would believe without questioning anything, it's @bradyjames that's how I know @fuzz77 is FOS when he says he didn't bet.



But in all seriousness fuzz, good luck to you and your wife in the battle you are facing. No, not your liberalness. Your real battle. God speed
 
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Willy, there is no real information on pages 1-2 of a 1040. Maybe that's all you've ever had to do but Trump's tax returns are literally 100+ pages long. Let's see his Schedule C and all of the supporting worksheets. And let's not cherry pick one year. Release complete returns from the last 5 years and put the story to bed.
(a) For there not being any "real information," liberals are picking those 2 pages from 2005 apart, totally ignoring that he paid $38 million in taxes to instead focus on what he would have paid without the alternative minimum tax (yes, Trump vowed to abolish the AMT on the campaign trail, but not to leave a huge void in our tax laws; he wanted to reform and make uniform the tax rate so that all these tax loopholes are removed from our system of taxation), the losses of $100 million that he claimed that year, and--get this--Fortune magazine is suggesting that he understated his income and therefore committed tax fraud (very bold accusation based on little to no evidence). Why release more documents just so a bunch of "Make America Soft (or Suck) Again" (MASA for short--please use this acronym freely, I think it fits the opposition SO well) schmucks can pick it apart and ignore the salient information therein to pull out a figure here, a figure there to promote class warfare, rich vs. poor, us vs. them narrative. Why bother?

(b) You MASA's can say you want Trump to release his taxes because they may reveal foreign interests, but you know it's a ruse, and yesterday proves it. You want to babble on about his income, his losses, his deductions, MASA's want everyone to know that Trump is RICH! Which everyone already knows, but you MASA's want to babble about it 24/7 to keep up the narrative (see (a) above).

(c) It will never be enough. If he releases his last 5 years of tax returns, you MASA's will then be saying he needs to release 5 more years, then an additional 5 more years, to keep the drumbeat of the narrative alive and well.

Trump is keeping his tax returns private because he is smarter than you MASA's.
 
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And @fuzz77 pay your damn bet to @bradyjames, jackass.
Like, like, like, like, like Like, like, like, like, like Like, like, like, like, like Like, like, like, like, like Like, like, like, like, like. I get tired of untrustworthy pieces of crap like these people who are anti- american leaches who join to play the game only to show the scum they really are.
 
See. What @Supreme Lord Z doesnt realize is that people who vote R can be opposed to some of their policies. We're not Democratic libera dumb asses who have to blindly support ridiculous policies like letting grown ass men piss in the same bathroom as little kids just because our party tells us to.

I, like Willy am opposed to going after marijuana. I don't believe trump will do it but if he did, I would oppose that particular policy. And I wouldn't be too big of a pussy to disagree and admit it.
 
Is anything ever going to come out of this President besides lip service and carnival barking?

He claimed he was going to "win" so much you'd be begging him to stop, but so far it has been lose, lose, lose, and more losing. Only in the finest Gestapho propaganda tradition Trump spins and markets it somehow into "winning" but people are starting to see though his snake oil salesmanship as on issues like heathcare, the reality will not match the rhetoric and people will actually have to live with the results.

A West Virginia pol put it perfectly, he said he was talking to the President and he told him a lot of rural folks that voted for him in his state didn't realize the ACA was what got them their healthcare coverage, but that they damned sure would know who took it away from them.

The point is the chickens are coming home to roost for Trump and they are big fat reality chickens. He's done nothing but oversell, oversell, oversell, and promise while delivering NOTHING.

Not one single iota of legislation has been passed by this President. He has been beaten back, beaten down, throttled by the courts, slammed dunked by his own party, debunked by the press... the emperor has no clothes and his fat bloated orange ass is not very pretty to look at.

What happens when the car salesmanship glitter finally fades and the rubes realize they're rubes. That all they got was a load of hot air?

Granted, Trump has gathered together the dumbest, most naive, least educated, most racist, and malformed cast of neanderthals the world has ever seen as his "base" to fall back on, but even these single celled mutants are going to catch at some point as they are his very first target. The very people he hurts the most with his plot to rip off their healthcare in order to finance his big tax giveaway to the rich he's got coming down the pike.

Wall. Failure.
Mexico will pay for the Wall. Failure.
Deport all the illegals. Failure.
Moslim ban. Failure.
Trillion dollar infrastructure plan to rebuild America. Failure.
Repeal Obamacare on Day One. Failure.

When the ONLY thing Trump is successful at is handing a giant "BIGLY" tax break to all his rich billionaire friends... then will his cast of pandered to neanderthals finally realize they've been had?

I doubt it. But the rest of the world sure as shit knows it is all smoke and mirrors bullshit.
 
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Alright, made it back from downtown. Here's what I saw tonight:

There were a TON of people. I mean...easily 15,000 (though I'm not good at judging how big crowds are). Did not expect that many people. More on that later. All kinds of vendors selling hats, shirts, etc. News vans. A ton of people just down there hanging out, supporting, that had no intention of going inside.

Had to wade through some protestors beforehand in Public Square. They marched over the river from Nissan Stadium, gathered in Public Square, then headed to Municipal Auditorium. To be honest, I thought there would be more. There was maybe a few hundred of them. Had a good time reading some of their signs. Some of them were pretty comical. "Apologize to Obama" is the one that sticks out in my mind. They chanted and beat drums and shit but overall no big deal. Peaceful assembly. Freedom of speech. Textbook First Amendment stuff.

That line, guys. Holy shit. It was ridiculous. At least a mile and a half long. Luckily we had someone already in line saving a spot for us or there would be no way in hell we would've gotten in. It wrapped around the Capitol and was at least 4-5 people wide. The procedure to get in was a cluster f*** though, because it was slow as could be.

Top section was slow to fill up because of it, but it was still a cool atmosphere. Cheering, chanting, etc. You all heard it all if you were watching. There was one "protester"...some Asian guy (girl?) who started yelling. Escorted out. That was it.

Overall, the big takeaway I came out of it with was that the whole "ignored citizens" mantra that has been talked about for months really hit home with me. It became real. There were people from every walks of life down around that place. Rednecks, people in suits, teenagers, etc. People who I bet have never been very involved or enthusiastic about politics before are now into it because of Trump. He's paying attention to them and they love it. I love it.

That's it. Just a guy's firsthand observation. If you don't like it, go EAD.
 
See. What @Supreme Lord Z doesnt realize is that people who vote R can be opposed to some of their policies. We're not Democratic libera dumb asses who have to blindly support ridiculous policies like letting grown ass men piss in the same bathroom as little kids just because our party tells us to.

I, like Willy am opposed to going after marijuana. I don't believe trump will do it but if he did, I would oppose that particular policy. And I wouldn't be too big of a pussy to disagree and admit it.

Phatty, nobody is getting rid of weed. State's rights will ultimately prevail on this
 
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Hahahahahahah
Dragon ball Z is like Farva from "super troopers"

When he makes his epic rants, I seriously picture him acting like the scene where farva is using the radar gun to clock how furious he is whacking it.

Trump derangement syndrome at its finest.

Micheal Barry on his radio program today said trump is doing a damn good job. As much as he opposed trump, for him to say that means a hell of a lot more than a hating douche bag like you Z.
 
They say in Hitler's final days he was raving at imaginary things and ordering imaginary troops around on the battlefield that had long since been destroyed. Completely untethered to reality.

Trump, by all appearances, started that way. He didn't even need to descend into it. That's the world he lives in all the time.
 
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