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POLITICAL THREAD

How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
I have literally no idea. I also am not happy people were shot and someone died.

I wanted to point out he was an R because I know for a fact everyone in here that is right wing was salivating a the thought of reinforcing their own views on liberals as being totally evil.

However when the table is flipped, you, for example, are now investigative about it. What were his motivations, what were his personal issues, etc.

At the end of the day had it been the other side, I would have denounced the action even as a liberal because I'm not devoid of humanity.
He registered so he could vote against Trump in the PA primary. He gave money to the dems.
I have a fam member who registers dem so she can vote in Fem primaries in LOU and be given a listen when she calls our Dem Congressman. It's a common tactic for mischief. Follow the money for the truth.
 
Kind of curious as to why you dislike him so much personally? I don’t know him, I don’t know any politician minus those in my own family. I never really consider if I’d like them personally because I’ll never know enough about them to know, simply put. Trump could me a megalomaniac narcissist or he could have been called by God and felt the message, he could be a great man who wants to be the guy who sacrifices to better the country. I don’t know, no one does. I agree I love his policies and that’s my focus, I’m just curious how or why it is you dislike him so much? Do you think the media has shaped your view in some ways?
Trump's employees love him. Everybody who really knows him loves him. He's known for his generosity and kindness and devotion to his wife. Those who don't like him are weak minded souls who just believe how his tweets are characterized.
 
Agree. My brain has stopped trying to rationalize the lefts behavior and see them for what they are and what they are capable of. These are evil people who have no concern for even innocent human life, let alone someone they hate.
No, no, no. That's not true at all. I was told that the Left values loving everyone for who they are. They even champion people having the right to think and live differently. The Left is peace, love and inclusion.
 
If I'm Trump the first call I make is to the most trusted private security firm in the world. Forget government anything.
If post FDR America has taught us nothing else, it's that; if you want something done right, go to the private sector. Trump is going to rake in unimaginable donations after this. Spend a big chunk of that on competent security, because, at this point, all he has to do, to win the election, is, you know, stay alive...
 
He comes across as a pompous asshole. I don’t like pompous, arrogant assholes. There are other things, but in reality, they don’t matter to his fans. Quite frankly, sometimes his behavior, as in social media, is just an embarrassment.

But those are just flaws. I have plenty myself.

We desperately need a leader in this country to get us out of the destructive rut we’re in. My constant prayer is that he can provide that because it’s pretty obvious he’s going to win.

Unless the left actually succeeds in their next attempt.
Nobody LIKES pompous arrogant assholes, but when you need something done, sometimes it takes one.

If I'm facing a life sentence, I want the pompous arrogant asshole attorney

If I'm facing open heart surgery, I want the hotshot surgeon with a God complex etc.

Trump comes off as more of a pompous arrogant asshole than the politicians he has to deal with, because he isn't one of them. He didn't spend decades honing his fake persona, and manicuring his financials etc. But make no mistake, those politicians are even more insidious than him.

It's just that Americans are, by and large, ignorant and yes, in a lot of cases, willfully so. They vote based on feelings. Adults don't vote on 'feelings', they vote on issues.
 
Yeah. Can't believe people would downplay the attempted murder of a prominent political figure...🤡



How is Paul Pelosi a prominent political figure?

I don't think you comprehend how stupid you are conflating these two incidents.
 
Well, all of that being said; it doesn't mean I have to be FRIENDS with them LOL

And as far as me being old, the times I grew up in saw exponentially more political violence than exists today.
Yeah mostly a function of the surveillance state I think.
 
I personally know many libs disappointed the shooter missed. Political discourse is at a horrific place in this country and its because of the left trying to make sure their people are worked up enough to not stay home. I think biden is an awful president but i definitely don't wish death on him.

Tons of questions to be asked about ss on this. No way s shooter should be able to get an elevated position, so close, with direct line of sight. Ss opened fire soon as the shooting started but my god why wait? He had a long range rifle and a tripod. That should've been immediate elimination.
Unfortunately, the SS is run by the same person who absolutely refuses to secure our nation's borders. Mayorkas. No surprise a roof wouldn't get secured 130 yards away from the former POTUS.
 
Trump's employees love him. Everybody who really knows him loves him. He's known for his generosity and kindness and devotion to his wife. Those who don't like him are weak minded souls who just believe how his tweets are characterized.
One of my clients is a former babysitter for DJT and Ivanka. Says he's NOTHING like the media portrayals.

Both he and Ivanka treated her incredibly well: she loves the guy.
 
Nobody LIKES pompous arrogant assholes, but when you need something done, sometimes it takes one.

If I'm facing a life sentence, I want the pompous arrogant asshole attorney

If I'm facing open heart surgery, I want the hotshot surgeon with a God complex etc.

Trump comes off as more of a pompous arrogant asshole than the politicians he has to deal with, because he isn't one of them. He didn't spend decades honing his fake persona, and manicuring his financials etc. But make no mistake, those politicians are even more insidious than him.

It's just that Americans are, by and large, ignorant and yes, in a lot of cases, willfully so. They vote based on feelings. Adults don't vote on 'feelings', they vote on issues.
Exactly. If you care at all about the future of our country and have a few rational brain cells working, it's time to drop the fweelings BS and get behind the only person who has the courage and ability to hopefully defeat this insideous pRoGrEsSiVe disease.

I don't want to hear any more whining about mean tweets, etc. Be goddamn glad there's ANYBODY willing to stand up against this evil and risk literally everything to save the country.
 
If post FDR America has taught us nothing else, it's that; if you want something done right, go to the private sector. Trump is going to rake in unimaginable donations after this. Spend a big chunk of that on competent security, because, at this point, all he has to do, to win the election, is, you know, stay alive...
I think I'd suggest spending a relatively meager amount of money on bullet proof glass panels to surround any public podium Trump steps up to from now on. He should never, ever, make a speech again without physical protective barriers in place.
 
He comes across as a pompous asshole. I don’t like pompous, arrogant assholes. There are other things, but in reality, they don’t matter to his fans. Quite frankly, sometimes his behavior, as in social media, is just an embarrassment.

But those are just flaws. I have plenty myself.

We desperately need a leader in this country to get us out of the destructive rut we’re in. My constant prayer is that he can provide that because it’s pretty obvious he’s going to win.

Unless the left actually succeeds in their next attempt.
Do yourself a favor and STOP BELIEVING ANYTHING THE MEDIA SAYS.
 
I have literally no idea. I also am not happy people were shot and someone died.

I wanted to point out he was an R because I know for a fact everyone in here that is right wing was salivating a the thought of reinforcing their own views on liberals as being totally evil.

However when the table is flipped, you, for example, are now investigative about it. What were his motivations, what were his personal issues, etc.

At the end of the day had it been the other side, I would have denounced the action even as a liberal because I'm not devoid of humanity.
Confirmed, he voted for biden and donated to voteblue...he switched parties for the primary to vote for Nikki Haley.

Nice try, you hatefilled rhetoric clowns

A congressman was shot on a baseball field and you all claimed it was okay bc he didn't support nationalized healthcare, an idiot brought a gun to Kavanaughs house and you said nothing bc you want an activist court. Your current president has refused to denounce Charlottesvilles happening all over the country at pro hamas rallies bc he's afraid of losing votes in Michigan.

All you care about is power...as long as feelings are sprinkled on it
 
Well, I'm not an expert, but if, as I said, they had had a spotter behind those buildings (which it seems they did not) they would have noticed someone crawling up onto one of them with a high powered rifle. That just seems intuitively necessary, to me anyway; to constantly monitor the almost perfectly elevated and distanced shooting platform. There was a building, a good bit taller (and behind) than the one the shooter chose, that would have offered an unfettered view of that entire complex of structures.

I was at the RNC in 2016 and can attest to uniformed police snipers on almost every building local building. All 4 days.

Complete and total failure of security. (Not the guys on stage, and the quick response once shots fired.)
 
I would submit that we were, quite literally, less than an inch away from igniting civil war last night.
“The most terrifying force of death comes from the hands of Men who wanted to be left Alone. They try, so very hard, to mind their own business and provide for themselves and those they love. They resist every impulse to fight back, knowing the forced and permanent change of life that will come from it. They know that the moment they fight back, their lives as they have lived them, are over. The moment the Men who wanted to be left alone are forced to fight back, it is a form of suicide. They are literally killing off who they used to be. Which is why, when forced to take up violence, these Men who wanted to be left alone, fight with unholy vengeance against those who murdered their former lives. They fight with raw hate, and a drive that cannot be fathomed by those who are merely play-acting at politics and terror. TRUE TERROR will arrive at these people’s door, and they will cry, scream, and beg for mercy… but it will fall upon the deaf ears of the Men who just wanted to be left alone.”
 
The huge American flag flying over Trump's head served as the ideal wind flag, indicating for a potential assassin wind speed and direction - such indicators are used on ALL military/security firing ranges, such indicators should have been prohibited by security.
Perhaps, but it isn't like someone can't figure out windage by looking at tree leaves or putting a wet finger up in the air.
I'm far more concerned that a rooftop that close was not secured and would like to know how the perp knew that the particular rooftop was not secured by an SS agent.
 
Absolutely unacceptable on so many levels for the SS to allow an open roof with a line of sight to a former POTUS. Probably the most flagrant failure in the history of the SS. Folks should lose their jobs over this.
I do not believe for a second that it was negligence. I don't think something as basic as covering a rooftop goes un noticed unless you want it to be open.

You won't be seeing that kid's communication or social media. That's for sure.
 
First, I stated I'm voting for Trump. Hardly means I want him out of the race. I posted I'm happy Biden got Bernie's full support & is thus likely staying in the race. How does that mean I want Trump out? Yes, I wanted a nominee other than Trump but that's water over the dam, isn't it?
Second, Trump was maintaining Obama's level of debt as % of GDP before covid.
Third, how is "You have wanted trump OUT of the picture for years and you almost got your wish last night. " not mean that I wanted him harmed if not murdered last night? AGAIN, YOU'RE A BOLDFACE LIAR. That you can still write "No idea what you want or expect an apology for." is enough for me.
Fourth, I'm down with you.
See you later.
 
Retaliatory? The crazies on the left don’t like either candidate right now.
Trump is alive because of God imo. It’s a similar situation to George Washington being shot in war many times but the bullets didn’t penetrate. To the point where enemies would stop shooting because it seemed divine. There’s a really good book that details this situation but I’m having trouble recalling the name. If anyone is interested I can find it.

Trump should be dead that’s obvious. I shoot regularly and that was not a difficult shot especially when the target continues to stand there as you fire 7 rounds. He should have been hit. The fact that he wasn’t to me is divine especially considering how close it came his head. God doesn’t send a roaring fire he always does just enough for his will to be carried out.

I’m a firm believer that this country is running rampant with evil influence and God has his hand around it because it’s not time. Trump has a purpose that must be carried out.

My opinion.
Although I believe in God and Divine intervention, seems we could have had some November 22, 1963
 
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Perhaps, but it isn't like someone can't figure out windage by looking at tree leaves or putting a wet finger up in the air.
I'm far more concerned that a rooftop that close was not secured and would like to know how the perp knew that the particular rooftop was not secured by an SS agent.

It’s a little more complicated than that when you’re focusing on a shot through a scope. That flag allowed the shooter to get a great judgement call while remaining in position. He’s right on this, that’s another failure in security. No way it should have been there if the proximity is accurate.

As I gather more information I am having more and more trouble seeing how this was simply a failure and not accompanied by some sort of intent. Even trying to remain objective and aware of confirmation bias, this an extremely strange situation. From the location, to the crowd alerts, to the rejection of security, to the unsecured buildings, to DHS reports, there’s just a lot here that doesn’t add up. The timing from the debate to now, the weekend it happened, all of it. We never get the full scope but there’s more here than just some random screwup. I’m not saying it’s totally concentrated and calculated however when accompanied by statements from top officials the last 2 weeks I’m not having any trouble seeing the formation of conspiracies upcoming. There’s a lot here and Trump needs to do a scope investigation when he comes into the White House. Eventually mistakes are made and we need to finally get information. The military industrial complex wants to run full steam ahead and he’s in their way again. The most dangerous thing in politics that’s ever happened was the formation of the military industrial complex aligning with the leftist party.
 
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