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I've never taken the founders' "rights bestowed by God" (paraphrasing) as meaning the God of the Old and New Testament, the God of Abraham etc.

I've always taken it to mean Natural Law. Meaning it's a moral compass we're born with, that exists outside of our circumstance/upbringing.

I can't imagine anyone that has actually studied the founding of our country, and the men that did it, thinking otherwise.
I disagree that the founding fathers didnt believe that God granted rights, but that’s not important.
Natural law and God are one and the same , basically that some things are out of man’s control. If you and I flip a coin choosing heads or tails, one of us will win, if I win and thank God, or if you win and thank physics it’s the same thing. Both were out of our control, it was natural law.

It was a brilliant addition by the Founders, and it’s true, natural law. That some things are out of man’s control, they just are, and rights are one of those things as much as a storm would be, and society doesn’t realize that anymore which leads to tyranny as the govt tries to control more.
 
I disagree that the founding fathers didnt believe that God granted rights, but that’s not important.
Natural law and God are one and the same , basically that some things are out of man’s control. If you and I flip a coin choosing heads or tails, one of us will win, if I win and thank God, or if you win and thank physics it’s the same thing. Both were out of our control, it was natural law.

It was a brilliant addition by the Founders, and it’s true, natural law. That some things are out of man’s control, they just are, and rights are one of those things as much as a storm would be, and society doesn’t realize that anymore which leads to tyranny as the govt tries to control more.
You and I agree ( I think, mostly...)
 
Decent picks except Mike Lee. Isn't he Tennessee governor? If so he has some future promise and needs not to be wasted on that divisive position. Better to stay as governor and ramp up for next presidential election
Mike Lee is a Senator from Utah. I have thought for some time Tulsi Gabbard will be the pick.
 
I watched a podcast with a Marine who lost his legs on that day at the airport. The real crime isn't just how absolutely piss poor the planning was... The chain of command was so broken that when they had the bomber in the crosshairs, they couldn't get approved to take the shot because nobody knew who was in overall command at the airport. They just kept kicking the decision until the bomb went off and then pretended it was a total shock to them that people died.
 
“Endowed by their Creator”. While many of them were deists, many were not.
noun
  1. belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind. Compare with theism
 
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure IIRC, that Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Adams were not even Christians. They were deists/agnostic?
People are confusing deist with atheist. They weren't atheist. Some were nondenominational. Jefferson bought bibles for soldiers and paid for pastors to attend to those soldiers during the revolutionary war.

noun
  1. belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically of a creator who does not intervene in the universe. The term is used chiefly of an intellectual movement of the 17th and 18th centuries that accepted the existence of a creator on the basis of reason but rejected belief in a supernatural deity who interacts with humankind. Compare with theism



 
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This is total bullshit if this is allowed to stand:


Full disclosure: I work in the oil and gas industry so this is personal to me.
It’s going to cause a bloodbath for anybody who depends on the auto industry.
 
Yeah, I don’t get why the UAW is for biDIM.
Dems protect the Union/Union heads, Union heads get fat paychecks, Union heads allow Union members to work less and keep getting paid more, then Union heads tell their members that R is bad and D is good and to donate to D.

It’s that simple.
 
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This is total bullshit if this is allowed to stand:


Full disclosure: I work in the oil and gas industry so this is personal to me.
Forcing a not yet ready for primetime technology on the public, harming lower and middle class people by making things unaffordable all in the name of "saving the planet" 🙄🙄🙄
 
Dems protect the Union/Union heads, Union heads get fat paychecks, Union heads allow Union members to work less and keep getting paid more, then Union heads tell their members that R is bad and D is good and to donate to D.

It’s that simple.
Rank and File Union members aren't buying into that nonsense much anymore. I have to think at some point the tables will turn and the UAW will have to listen to what the rank and file want. THey've already come out and said they aren't yet endorsing Biden. Still won't support Trump yet though either. So there is a bit of a shift starting at least.
 
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