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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
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  • Poll closed .
Doesn't on you? I don't follow.



No one is trying to define hate speech. Not sure how this is relevant. Hateful speech is obviously debatable, as Milo argues, but all speech has consequences, which Milo is trying to change.



He's a troll saying some pretty shitty things. I've ignored him for the most part, and disagree with violent protests, as does the laws in Berkeley.

Milo complains that he lost access to Twitter and other social networks because of his purposefully inciting rhetoric. The 1st amendment doesn't grant the right to post on Twitter.

You don't believe in violent protest?

Your party didn't listen.
 
Are prostitutes under 18 going to be arrested for prostitution?

"bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so."

Yes they will be arrested and will not be allowed to continue their operations, but they won't face criminal charges. Instead the provision is "designed to treat children involved in prostitution as victims rather than as criminals.".

This "does nothing, however, to legalize commercial sex acts".

Per the author of the bill :

""This notion, perpetuated by Assembly member Travis Allen (R-Huntington Beach), that my bill legalizes prostitution and commercial sex for minors is categorically untrue," she added. "It remains unlawful for a person under the age of 18 to consent to sexual intercourse in the State of California and the law remains in effect and is not changed with the implementation of my bill."

Stop being sheep.
 
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Doesn't on you? I don't follow.



No one is trying to define hate speech. Not sure how this is relevant. Hateful speech is obviously debatable, as Milo argues, but all speech has consequences, which Milo is trying to change.



He's a troll saying some pretty shitty things. I've ignored him for the most part, and disagree with violent protests, as does the laws in Berkeley.

Milo complains that he lost access to Twitter and other social networks because of his purposefully inciting rhetoric. The 1st amendment doesn't grant the right to post on Twitter.

I don't find the things he is saying shitty. We gonna look at a Maplethorpe and then try to define obscenity?

I don't agree with racist talk either Mime. But I am not going to tell someone what they can and cannot say. it's not my place nor is it anyone else's place. As long as Milo isn't out saying he is gonna kill people or cause harm then he has the right to say anything he wants.

Unlike the plethora of SJWs who keep twittering death threats about the president. Guess that's ok. But let's rail on Milo....Yeah..
 
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Nope. Read the article.

What?

SB 1322, he added, "bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so."

And that's true — the law does state that minors won't be treated as criminals if they are caught under such circumstances.
 
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hey mime, define hate speech again? are you defending your side advocating for the killing of white people, calling people whom you disagree with racist? funding riots that lead to the destruction of public and private property because you disagree with what someone says? it's ok when your team does it. is in fact the only ones doing it, matter of fact, leading the way in the destruction of free speech altogether. because words hurt your feelings. Milo represents hate speech, but all this other bs is fine? is that correct Mimeismoney
 
Yes they will be arrested and will not be allowed to continue their operations, but they won't face criminal charges. Instead the provision is "designed to treat children involved in prostitution as victims rather than as criminals.".

This "does nothing, however, to legalize commercial sex acts".

Per the author of the bill :

""This notion, perpetuated by Assembly member Travis Allen (R-Huntington Beach), that my bill legalizes prostitution and commercial sex for minors is categorically untrue," she added. "It remains unlawful for a person under the age of 18 to consent to sexual intercourse in the State of California and the law remains in effect and is not changed with the implementation of my bill."

Stop being sheep.

Are you this dense?

Are they going to pull an Obama and tell the girls to "cut it out? "Not allowed to continue? Yea buddy, nice.

Unbelievable.

who's the sheep? The liberals are taking you down the rabbit hole right infront of your eyes, and you're too damn partisan to see it. You WILL argue for pedopilia in your life as a liberal. You're already gearing yourself up for it.

I bet it goes like this.

"You can't stop pedopilia with laws. That's been proven. All you can do is regulate it where it's in the open and hope for the best. It's human nature. When old white grandparents from the 20's married your 15 year old grandmother you people saw nothing wrong. Now all of a sudden, since it's middle eastern immigrants, it's a problem."

This will almost certainly be the argument. Again, wait on it.
 
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What?

SB 1322, he added, "bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so."

And that's true — the law does state that minors won't be treated as criminals if they are caught under such circumstances.

That's how the opponent is horribly misreading the bill. The actual SB 1322 says that criminal charges will not be brought against the minors. Protection offers will place these minors in civil protective custody.

Child prostitution is not legal. The child will be place in protective custody but will not be treated as criminals, similar to victims of child pornography.

Thought this would be easy for y'all to understand.
 
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What?

SB 1322, he added, "bars law enforcement from arresting sex workers who are under the age of 18 for soliciting or engaging in prostitution, or loitering with the intent to do so."

And that's true — the law does state that minors won't be treated as criminals if they are caught under such circumstances.


Mime says they will be arrested. That article says that aren't to be arrested.

I don't know what to believe.

Mime, I never said that it was to be legalized. I said decriminalized. Which is exactly true.
 
I don't find the things he is saying shitty. We gonna look at a Maplethorpe and then try to define obscenity?

I don't agree with racist talk either Mime. But I am not going to tell someone what they can and cannot say. it's not my place nor is it anyone else's place. As long as Milo isn't out saying he is gonna kill people or cause harm then he has the right to say anything he wants...

and he will face any and all legal consequence of same speech
 
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After reading the article you posted that explicitly states child prostitution is no longer a criminal offense in California, yes. Prior to that, I did not.

So now you believe child prostitution to be legal in CA?

Child prostitution is still a criminal offense in CA, for the employer and exploiter of the child. The victim of this, just like in child pornography, is provided services for child abuse and molestation.
 
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I don't find the things he is saying shitty. We gonna look at a Maplethorpe and then try to define obscenity?

I don't agree with racist talk either Mime. But I am not going to tell someone what they can and cannot say. it's not my place nor is it anyone else's place. As long as Milo is out saying he is gonna kill people or cause harm then he has the right to say anything he wants.

Unlike the plethora of SJWs who keep twittering death threats about the president. Guess that's ok. But let's rail on Milo....Yeah..

If the left can be outright racist toward whites and use white male as a slur and dismiss any of their success as "unearned privilege" while advocating for Affirmative Action and race-based admission, then they have no right to call anyone "racist."

The left creates a victim complex and portrays whites as evil all the time.
 
and he will face any and all legal consequence of same speech

Agreed Mime.

But who will get more scrutinized? Milo or the violent SJWs? We already know that answer as seen with the way MSM handled the hate crime against the white kid in Chicago.
 
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Mime says they will be arrested. That article says that aren't to be arrested.

I don't know what to believe.

Mime, I never said that it was to be legalized. I said decriminalized. Which is exactly true.

That's the point, you start with decriminalization. Then you desensitize the masses through years of coexisting with said behavior. Then you push law to just legalize all together. That's how this works.

Gays and liberals said in 1975 that they didn't want "marriage" like Christians define "marriage", they wanted unions and wanted to be treated human, "that's all". They are doing the same thing with the marijuana issue (whether people agree or not is another issue. Same issue with guns. They want to start with small bans and then go full confiscation. Eric Holder and Diane Feinstein have basically admitted it. Others have as well.

It's the same path here. It will lead to pedophilia. "Decrimilaztion" is just the starting point for the left, always has been.
 
If the left can be outright racist toward whites and use white male as a slur and dismiss any of their success as "unearned privilege" while advocating for Affirmative Action and race-based admission, then they have no right to call anyone "racist."

The left creates a victim complex and portrays whites as evil all the time.

I agree. This white shaming is racist and IDGAF what any lib says. It's GD racist. But I don't think anyone should be prosecuted over it
 
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Mime says they will be arrested. That article says that aren't to be arrested.

I don't know what to believe.

The article is quoting the opponent of the bill that they are not to be arrested. The victimized children will be taken under custody by civil protection services.
 
Child prostitution is legal there. Not even kidding.

OK, so this guy is the sheep.

But, child prostitution is still a criminal act, just not for the victim of this crime, which is the underage child being forced into commercial sex acts.
 
We're talking about the ability for people to sell their bodies for money. Children can now legally do that in California.




Edit: Per your article

Actually, no they can't, because they cannot legally consent. They will be apprehended and given over to civil services.

Edit: you can't read
 
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That's the point, you start with decriminalization. Then you desensitize the masses through years of coexisting with said behavior. Then you push law to just legalize all together. That's how this works.

Gays and liberals said in 1975 that they didn't want "marriage" like Christians define "marriage", they wanted unions and wanted to be treated human, "that's all". They are doing the same thing with the marijuana issue (whether people agree or not is another issue. Same issue with guns. They want to start with small bans and then go full confiscation. Eric Holder and Diane Feinstein have basically admitted it. Others have as well.

It's the same path here. It will lead to pedophilia. "Decrimilaztion" is just the starting point for the left, always has been.

[laughing]
 
God liberals really aren't that bright.

That's why the term "liberal" has always been synonymous with "college age". So easy to brainwash and so easy to manipulate.

They've got no experience in the real world to decipher political code. Democrats love it.
 
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Actually, no they can't, because they cannot legally consent. They will be apprehended and given over to civil services.

Edit: you can't read


Honestly, are we reading the same article? You may want to double check what you posted. Your article explicitly states children can now sell their bodies for money in California without being charged with a crime.

Can an underage person even be charge with a crime for having sex without legally consenting?
 
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Agreed Mime.

But who will get more scrutinized? Milo or the violent SJWs? We already know that answer as seen with the way MSM handled the hate crime against the white kid in Chicago.

On here? It's the both the violent and nonviolent SJWs.
 
If the left can be outright racist toward whites and use white male as a slur and dismiss any of their success as "unearned privilege" while advocating for Affirmative Action and race-based admission, then they have no right to call anyone "racist."

The left creates a victim complex and portrays whites as evil all the time.

This is because they are nothing more than f---ing communists. Race is only one more avenue to their true goal, which is redistribution.
 
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Honestly, are we reading the same article? You may want to double check what you posted. Your article explicitly states children can now sell their bodies for money in California without being charged with a crime.

Can an underage person even be charge with a crime for having sex without legally consenting?

Are there still criminal charges associated with child prostitution? Is it legal for a minor to engage in sexual activities for commercial purposes?

The children aren't selling their bodies legally, and are being victimized by those forcing the children into prostitution.

Per the author:

"Those soliciting the sex and those arranging the clients can still be charged with crimes. People caught having sexual conduct with minors can be charged with penalties ranging from misdemeanors to felonies carrying life terms, depending on the ages of those involved and the individual circumstances of the offenses."

Please, I implore you all, go to CA and pay for sex with a minor, then argue that the activity has been decriminalized.
 
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You can laugh, but I'd almost guarantee you're under 25 years old. The ignorance to how ideologies operate proves it. You don't have experience to see it.

Or you're a 55 year old silver tail who's spent his entire life in a college classroom dreaming up Utopian scenarios while never experiencing the consequences.

Which is it.

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Or

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Are there still criminal charges associated with child prostitution? Is it legal for a minor to engage in sexual activities for commercial purposes?

The children aren't selling their bodies legally, and are being victimized by those forcing the children into prostitution.

Per the author:

"Those soliciting the sex and those arranging the clients can still be charged with crimes. People caught having sexual conduct with minors can be charged with penalties ranging from misdemeanors to felonies carrying life terms, depending on the ages of those involved and the individual circumstances of the offenses."

Please, I implore you all, go to CA and pay for sex with a minor, then argue that the activity has been decriminalized.

So what you're saying is its not a criminal act for a child to sell his or her body for sex in California?
 
So what you're saying is its not a criminal act for a child to sell his or her body for sex in California?

Nope, what I'm saying is that it's illegal for a child to consent to sex in CA, either for commercial or private purposes.

What I'm also saying that is child prostitution is illegal in CA, and it carries criminal charges for those involved.
 
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Just to be clear, this went like this...

How close?

Umm, California just passed a law that decriminalizes childhood prostitution.
Just for the child, not the adult, correct?
I believe you're correct Vandalay
I think it's something like "victims of prostitution stings/sex trafficking" can't be charged.

Something like that.
 
Nope, what I'm saying is that it's illegal for a child to consent to sex in CA, either for commercial or private purposes.

What I'm also saying that is child prostitution is illegal in CA, and it carries criminal charges for those involved.

But not for the minor, right?
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