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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
And another president could undo it just like Biden did. EOs are just a stopgap with no lasting authority. The only way to change the current situation is legislation. Stop blaming the president for the failings of the legislative branch. You personally should be extra attuned to that since you work in the judicial sphere and Congress has been shunting more and more of their responsibilities onto the other two branches for decades. The legislative branch legislates, not the executive by EO or the judicial from the bench.
False. It has lasted for three years now and is flooding this country with criminals, terrorist, gang members, pedophiles, rapist, etc... He could have left it as was.
 
Biden could reinstate the remain in Mexico policy with an EO but he never would because it would be bad for politics with his left wing. It would be challenged in court by interest groups. We would hear about all of the immigrants who were killed, raped, attacked, etc by cartels in Mexico after they were returned. It would be a political firestorm for him. So he’d much rather have Congress pass legislation requiring tough changes.
You're not wrong but neither am I. We need immigration law codified so that we don't go thru this BS every four years.
 
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Thank God it's only imagined.

Racial/Ethnic Makeup of Los Angeles County (2019)[16]
NH=Non-Hispanic


White NH (25.87%)
Black NH (7.74%)
Native American NH (0.24%)
Asian NH (14.51%)
Pacific Islander NH (0.23%)
Other race NH (0.40%)
Two or more races NH (2.38%)
Hispanic Any Race (48.63%)
 
"Most people" in our country know that the vice president doesn't unilaterally select the next president. We have elections for that. Anyone with the radical interpretation of the opposite that Congress was trying to address, embraced by only the former Confederacy and Trump, is in the minority.
Well Pence wasn't going to select the next president, if that is what you're referring to.

From what i understand, the question was could he send it back to the states or something to that effect.

But you're a gaslighting, lying POS SOB who likes to clutch his boyfriends pearls while grooming children. So basically ... GFY.
 
Well Pence wasn't going to select the next president, if that is what you're referring to.

From what i understand, the question was could he send it back to the states or something to that effect.

But you're a gaslighting, lying POS SOB who likes to clutch his boyfriends pearls while grooming children. So basically ... GFY.

The Senate, Cruz et al, wanted to do a 10 day emergency investigation.

Nothing would've happened. Trump would've still "lost," just without all the chaos for the dems to take advantage of
 
If by "radical, incorrect" you mean unconstitutional and illegal yes. If you took the radical interpretation that murder was illegal only for humans, and you're a god, not a human, so that doesn't apply to you, and proceed to kill a whole bunch of people, you still get prosecuted. The law does not have to respect your radical interpretation. And if legislatures then pass a law afterwards specifying that the illegality of murder does indeed apply to humans that think they're gods, it still applied to the person and conduct before that specified language.
Tortured logic. The sure sign of weak underpinnings.
 
Tortured logic. The sure sign of weak underpinnings.


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Well Pence wasn't going to select the next president, if that is what you're referring to.

From what i understand, the question was could he send it back to the states or something to that effect.

But you're a gaslighting, lying POS SOB who likes to clutch his boyfriends pearls while grooming children. So basically ... GFY.
You understand wrong. Trump asked Pence to acknowledge his fake electors or disregard valid ones, just gaveling him reelected when he wasn’t. Not “send it back to the states”. I’ve linked the emails from his lawyer John Eastman where they lay it out many times already. Some directly relevant excerpts being:

“Pence opens the ballots, determines on his own which is valid, asserting that the authority to make that determination under the 12th Amendment, and the Adams and Jefferson precedents, is his alone.”

"VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required). When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of “electors appointed” – the language of the 12th Amendment – is 454. A “majority of the electors appointed” would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected."
 
You understand wrong. Trump asked Pence to acknowledge his fake electors or disregard valid ones, just gaveling him reelected when he wasn’t. Not “send it back to the states”. I’ve linked the emails from his lawyer John Eastman where they lay it out many times already. Some directly relevant excerpts being:

“Pence opens the ballots, determines on his own which is valid, asserting that the authority to make that determination under the 12th Amendment, and the Adams and Jefferson precedents, is his alone.”

"VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required). When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of “electors appointed” – the language of the 12th Amendment – is 454. A “majority of the electors appointed” would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected."
We have already went over this. Trump had every right to question a fake election. Your stupid opinion doesn’t make it wrong.

You are wrong. It’s not going to change. I guess hating Jewish people is slow for you tonight.

Let’s recap your lies. Trump won. There was election fraud and Trump had every right to stop it. Thankfully for you, Pelosi and Pence teamed up to insurrect the election.
 
You're talking about the general? Polling on a hypothetical general this far out is worthless. But if that's your indicator there is no consensus, some even have Biden leading. Trump would have to get more votes than Biden this fall for you to even have an argument that Trump lovers are a majority of the country. You're predicting Trump gets more total votes than his opponent?
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We have already went over this. Trump had every right to question a fake election. Your stupid opinion doesn’t make it wrong.

You are wrong. It’s not going to change. I guess hating Jewish people is slow for you tonight.

Let’s recap your lies. Trump won. There was election fraud and Trump had every right to stop it. Thankfully for you, Pelosi and Pence teamed up to insurrect the election.
Congresspeople were set to, and did, make objections that day through the legitimate, constitutional avenues. Getting your VP to just gavel you elected when you weren't is not one of them.
 
Congresspeople were set to, and did, make objections that day through the legitimate, constitutional avenues. Getting your VP to just gavel you elected is not one of them.
Wrong. Pence coordinated with Pelosi. The whole reason they set up the FBI insurrection was to get the election certified in an abnormal area. Keep lying, Dion the Hitler.

Btw, maybe you, Nightwish and Clarence his Daddy, can do a 3 way Human Centipede
 
We have already went over this. Trump had every right to question a fake election. Your stupid opinion doesn’t make it wrong.

You are wrong. It’s not going to change. I guess hating Jewish people is slow for you tonight.

Let’s recap your lies. Trump won. There was election fraud and Trump had every right to stop it. Thankfully for you, Pelosi and Pence teamed up to insurrect the election.
Dont waste your t8me. He has said that a man can have a baby. Why argue with someone with mental issues?
 
Well first of all the 2nd amendment does not say you have a right to guns. It says arm's and it says well regulated militia. The militia part should be rewritten because it doesn't apply to our country anymore. So you could ban all guns, which I am not advocating, and not be infringing on the 2nd amendment. Swords and knives are arms. The 2nd amendment does not say you have a right to all arms and it does not say which arms. Those pesky founders liked to leave things very vague so we could adapt interpretations to the times. The scope of the 2nd amendment really depends entirely on the appetite of the populace and the courts. Scotus ruled that the 2nd amendment doesn't protect assault weapons. How does that make sense? So handguns are protected because people shoot them more? No, they are protected because the populace still wants them and the courts didn't want to take it that far at the time. I don't think the populace will fall out of love with handguns anytime soon so they will never be banned. But they are getting sick of seeing nutjobs shooting up places so the populace is moving towards favoring a lot more gun regulations. We'll see if congress ever has the willpower to do it but I doubt it.
If we had a better functioning political system we would periodically update amendments to address time specific problems so they weren't used as election season wedges issues. But alas we prefer to be entertained instead of governed.
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