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Reminds me of the ditch I ran into in rural France some 10 years ago. Needed an actual tow truck vs. that live one.
You're making my point: People adoring & voting for Trump by & large aren't conservatives. We're a small minority anymore. Spend away, MAGA !! That's Trump's solution.
Yes, those others ex DeSantis aren't conservatives either. BTW, you don't read here much since you don't know who I'm voting for.
I've told you what I think. Lots of people are conspiracists based on their gut instincts. I do everything I can to resist non-facts based conclusions.
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I’ve got a few.
Ukraine
Israel
I also am not against student loan forgiveness as long as they fix the root cause.
Now, how about you? Which Dem platforms are you against?
When you follow the money of the WW2 era, and you see how much of Hitler's backing came from both sides of the political spectrum in the US, you realize the depths of depravity of the elite all over this planet. You also realize how possible it might be that those people supporting him from here continued to support those like him in ideology after the war.
Maybe not because their ideologies were exactly the same, but because they shared the same lack of concern for human lives not their own, and that lack of concern is very profitable.
We weren't supposed to get into the war. It was a campaign promise of a corrupted politician who went back on his word by coercing/forcing Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor. Why? Why would he want to go back on that promise?
His campaign contributors demanded it.
Why?
Pretty simple. They backed Hitler, and Hitler had been winning. That meant more profits for them not just in terms of the weapons and other sales, but also in the stock and currency markets. Then Hitler decided to invade Russia, and everyone was like, "WTF?! NO!" They knew he was going to lose, and along with that they would lose much of their investment IN HIM.
The US had to enter the war to make sure that investment and its projected return didn't fall into Russian hands. As it turned out, a few of his backers lost money anyway. Among them was Prescott Bush, who had his assets and those of his financial institution frozen as part of an investigation by Joseph Kennedy into those funding Hitler. That family lost a lot of money and influence in that deal.
This country didn't get into WW2 because of the atrocities of Germany. They didn't do it to rescue Europe. The govt entered the war because of people invested in the outcome, and caring, patriotic Americans were shown an evil enemy they had no problem fighting. Most had no idea what was happening to the Jews, and to the political and religious enemies of the national socialist party. They just knew that Hitler, whom elites here helped to fund, needed to be stopped. And stop him they all did.
The fight that brought about the National Socialists gaining power was similar to what we saw in Russia and are seeing here now. Weakening and then federalizing the family. Pitting the poor against the middle class. Using propaganda and abuse of the purse and the citizens to foment fear and hatred, and clearly violence, as well as faking events and blaming them on political opponents.
My eyes were opened to all of this by a friend who had studied it, and seen it starting here in the 90s (but I think it might have have started in govt in the 50s or 60s). Some will just take the word of then current and even modern rewrites of last century's history (like those that have tried to rename the Bolshevik Revolution the October Revolution, not unlike them calling the incited bloodshed in Libya and such the "Arab Spring"...) I like to read all of the factual events and reason through them instead, since I've seen the omission or interpretation of those events change dramatically every decade or so.
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We also allowed the British to be carpet bombed into hell until they agreed to turn over their naval bases across the globe to us. Then we entered on their behalf. We became the world's biggest navy in one big swoop.
For ppl to truly understand wwII they need to study wwI, the napoleon wars and the great war that happened before. Alliances changed and flip floped on a dime.
Like it always is. We need to shrink the fed govt. It is not representing, nor serving, nor protecting the people and country.
YES! WW1 and WW2 are actually WW2 & WW3. The 7 Years War was the first fought on multiple continents that included the people of this one. There are so many of these conflicts that shaped our founding and our ongoing struggle to try to prevent (for as long as possible) EXACTLY what they are doing to this country right now and have been building up toward for a long time.
Unreal to announce that today. Most of the country is beyond tired of giving these other countries money and it doesn't do anything for us. It is a waste of money and we got people here whose homes and towns are destroyed.
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Fact: election laws were changed in an unconstitutional manner
Fact: ballots were sent out unsolicited
Fact: there were mules running ballots to unsecured and unmonitored drop boxes.
Fact: signature verification policies were so blatantly unenforced that even though we had the highest mail-in ballots in history (by the millions), the percentage of ballots tossed out due to that was as low as it’s ever been.
Fact: swing states shut down voting in an almost identical fashion with Trump leading.
Fact: Ga and Az audits and investigations found a plethora of irregularities/discrepancies along with missing/deleted data
There’s plenty more circumstantial evidence out there. You were never going to get some smoking gun, so best to use your intuition…..Like the majority of likely voters have done (per that Rasmussen poll).
I don't think I have ever seen this video. Thomas Sowell is an amazing and brilliant man as many of us already know, and he doesn't disappoint here, damn what a response to being called that ugly slur. (any curse word or slur is bleeped out in the video)
His words always quickly and effectively cut through the opposing views. Like a knife through butter. The guy is a giant or as is mentioned a few times in the comments...'a national treasure. '
His words always quickly and effectively cut through the opposing views. Like a knife through butter. The guy is a giant or as is mentioned a few times in the comments...'a national treasure. '
Would have been awesome if he could have been our first black president.
That would have been amazing. I was lucky to get introduced to Sowell's writings at an early age. My Dad got three newspapers growing up and sometime around 16 or so I started reading the political articles. He was one I usually stopped and read when I saw his name.
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Mayorkis is one of the most competent people in the Biden regime if you judge by results. Every day he’s achieving a new Biden regime goal.
Good to see Musk shaming publicly government officials into allowing private citizens to provide aid to NC.
Edit: hilariously I’m sure the narrative is going to be the federal government isn’t standing in the way of anything, even though it took Musk broadcasting their incompetence to his 200 million followers before they’d get out of the way.
Edit: hilariously I’m sure the narrative is going to be the federal government isn’t standing in the way of anything, even though it took Musk broadcasting their incompetence to his 200 million followers before they’d get out of the way.
I'll give 3 to 1 odds we won't be able to tell the difference if he actually gets a lobotomy.
I suspect you just like the feeling of the fence in your crack. Just kidding I know you are of course lying about being independent anyway.
It’s funny how every single KAB post is moronic left wing bullshit, other than the ones where he tries to describe his position as some above the fray moderate.
Never seen that before in this thread.
Never seen that before in this thread.
There is absolutely no reasonable way to justify student loan forgiveness. I find the idea absolutely abhorrent, especially in a country 30 some trillion in debt.
Great response but I honestly don’t get this VHcat dude. Already seen him admit that he is sure there was some level of fraud but not to the extent it would affect the outcome. Huh!!!! If your committing fraud, your doing it to win. They had fraud in place in 2016 but wasn’t prepared for the level of support trump received and could not overcome it. They used mass mail in voting to be better prepared in 2020. I’m sorry but anyone that thinks Joe Biden got the most legitimate votes in history is an absolute moron.
Obama 2008 - 69,498,516
Obama 2012 - 65,915,795
Clinton 2016 - 65,853,514
Biden. 2020 - 81,283,501
Biden barely campaigned but managed 16 million more votes than Clinton just 4 years earlier and crushed the left most popular candidate ever in Obama by 12 million votes. That is a 25% increase in voter turnout in just 4 years 😂. If this shit doesn’t raise your eyebrows nothing will.
The only item I can criticize is the feckless GOP leadership constantly caving in to the Democrats.
Not saying voters are being suppressed, but if it were, SatanMayorkis would have his hands all over it.
She was like a deer in headlights when the teleprompter went out.
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Media was really on one yesterday. CNN goes after Musk in typical bizarre CNN fashion and ABC was all about Jan. 6th.
CNN saying Musk posts propaganda and fake information is real rich.
"A summary of the attacks, which go on for a whopping four minutes:
- Musk likes Trump’s authoritarianism
- Musk constantly posts fake information
- Musk responds to Trump’s strongman tendencies
- Musk is visiting Butler because it is a quasi-religious site that made Trump “the target he always wanted to be"
- Musk “bought into the emotion” of the Butler assass*nation attempt
- Musk is using the Trump relationship to aid his companies that are under investigation
- Musk turned X into an echo chamber
- Musk posts propaganda on false claims
- Musk wants a job in Trump govt
- Musk seems to have too much time on his hands because he posts a lot of false information
- Musk posts too much to be able to run his companies and get anything else done
There’s throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, and then there’s whatever this pile of hot garbage is.
Again — not a single mention of the work Musk is doing to aid hurricane victims, while the federal government flails."
ABC:
CNN saying Musk posts propaganda and fake information is real rich.
"A summary of the attacks, which go on for a whopping four minutes:
- Musk likes Trump’s authoritarianism
- Musk constantly posts fake information
- Musk responds to Trump’s strongman tendencies
- Musk is visiting Butler because it is a quasi-religious site that made Trump “the target he always wanted to be"
- Musk “bought into the emotion” of the Butler assass*nation attempt
- Musk is using the Trump relationship to aid his companies that are under investigation
- Musk turned X into an echo chamber
- Musk posts propaganda on false claims
- Musk wants a job in Trump govt
- Musk seems to have too much time on his hands because he posts a lot of false information
- Musk posts too much to be able to run his companies and get anything else done
There’s throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, and then there’s whatever this pile of hot garbage is.
Again — not a single mention of the work Musk is doing to aid hurricane victims, while the federal government flails."
ABC:
The analogy is understandable. For me, the initial Covid push was believable and it looked as if many of our fears were well-founded. But, after a short while, as evidence was revealed, it became clear that those in charge were ignoring the evidence about impact, origins, etc.
I have read this thread off and on for quite some time now and have seen the claimed conclusions repeated, but unlike Covid, I do not see the progression of evidence toward those conclusions. I get the question, “do you think JOE BIDEN got 81 million votes???” All hypotheses start with a question and I think that is a good question; however, what has followed has not been convincing to me. Evidence of fraud and attempted fraud? Sure. The type of substantive fraud that would lead to Trump losing? Just haven't see it.
And, realizing the weakness of this aspect of my position, while admitting it is a factor, who is the most credible person claiming that cheating resulted in a fraudulent president not named Trump?
There are a number of influential voices who are pro-Trump or anti-Biden or just credible by reputation. Who would you point to to say THIS person lays out the case best?
With Covid and other “conspiracies,” at some point, people who did not originally believe a “conspiracy” admit they were wrong. Where are those people?
Covid, as a story, pales in comparison to the election was truly stolen. That conspiracy has germinated at the base and never attained traction toward the mainstream. Why is that?
Someone referenced a poll suggesting 62% of people think fraud was at play. What was the polling question? Because I believe fraud was at play. That is not the good question. The good question is did fraud impact the reported ultimate outcome?
If 62% of people believe that, really believe that, why is the outrage so confined?
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