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How will they rule ??!

  • YES - Qualified

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • NO - Disqualified

    Votes: 9 18.0%

  • Total voters
    50
  • Poll closed .
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“I signed and was responsible for the Music Modernization Act for Taylor Swift and all other Musical Artists. Joe Biden didn’t do anything for Taylor, and never will. There’s no way she could endorse Crooked Joe Biden, the worst and most corrupt President in the History of our Country, and be disloyal to the man who made her so much money. Besides that, I like her boyfriend, Travis, even though he may be a Liberal, and probably can’t stand me!”
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But George Soros owns her music library therefore whatever Trump did to help musicians is a nothingburger.

Still waiting for Taylor to acknowledge Toby Keith’s death. He found her and gave her a start by signing her to his record label when she was a teenager. She wouldn’t be where she is without him.
 
"Most people" in our country know that the vice president doesn't unilaterally select the next president. We have elections for that. Anyone with the radical interpretation of the opposite that Congress was trying to address, embraced by only the former Confederacy and Trump, is in the minority.

So you’re stance is people were interpreting the law as written in a radical, incorrect way, and when Congress took steps to clarify the law so people could no longer interpret it in what they felt were radical ways, nothing actually changed?
 
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Biden could reinstate the remain in Mexico policy with an EO but he never would because it would be bad for politics with his left wing. It would be challenged in court by interest groups. We would hear about all of the immigrants who were killed, raped, attacked, etc by cartels in Mexico after they were returned. It would be a political firestorm for him. So he’d much rather have Congress pass legislation requiring tough changes.
And another president could undo it just like Biden did. EOs are just a stopgap with no lasting authority. The only way to change the current situation is legislation. Stop blaming the president for the failings of the legislative branch. You personally should be extra attuned to that since you work in the judicial sphere and Congress has been shunting more and more of their responsibilities onto the other two branches for decades. The legislative branch legislates, not the executive by EO or the judicial from the bench.
 
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So you’re stance is people were interpreting the law as written in a radical, incorrect way, and when Congress took steps to clarify the law so people could no longer interpret it in what they felt were radical ways, nothing actually changed?
If by "radical, incorrect" you mean unconstitutional and illegal yes. If you took the radical interpretation that murder was illegal only for humans, and you're a god, not a human, so that doesn't apply to you, and proceed to kill a whole bunch of people, you still get prosecuted. The law does not have to respect your radical interpretation. And if legislatures then pass a law afterwards specifying that the illegality of murder does indeed apply to humans that think they're gods, it still applied to the person and conduct before that specified language.
 
"Most people" in our country know that the vice president doesn't unilaterally select the next president. We have elections for that. Anyone with the radical interpretation of the opposite that Congress was trying to address, embraced by only the former Confederacy and Trump, is in the minority.
You should join the Confederate Cross dion 🍺
 
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If by "radical, incorrect" you mean unconstitutional and illegal yes. If you took the radical interpretation that murder was illegal only for humans, and you're a god, not a human, so that doesn't apply to you, and proceed to kill a whole bunch of people, you still get prosecuted. The law does not have to respect your radical interpretation. And if legislatures then pass a law afterwards specifying that the illegality of murder does indeed apply to humans that think they're gods, it still applied to the person and conduct before that specified language.


Gotcha, so if someone thought murdering babies was fine because of a radical interpretation of the Constitution, and the Supreme Court later clarified there is no such thing as a penumbra of privacy creating a right, you’d agree there was never actually a right to abortions that the Supreme Court took away?


Says the side who just removed our constitutional right to abortion.
 
Gotcha, so if someone thought murdering babies was fine because of a radical interpretation of the Constitution, and the Supreme Court later clarified there is no such thing as a penumbra of privacy creating a right, you’d agree there was never actually a right to abortions that the Supreme Court took away?
A ruling from the Supreme Court of the United States, Roe, is denotatively not radical or unconstitutional my guy. 🤣
 
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A ruling from the Supreme Court of the United States, Roe, is denotatively not radical or unconstitutional my guy. 🤣


Ah, I see we’re to the point you start completely deflecting. No one said a SCOTUS ruling was unconstitutional. SCOTUS rulings can certainly be radical.

You argued when congress rewrote a statute to eliminate an incorrect interpretation of the law, they didn’t actually do anything because any prior interpretation was wrong.

But you’ve also argued incessantly when the SCOTUS clarified Roe v Wade was an incorrect interpretation of the Constitution, they took away a right to abortion.

You’re an unprincipled, shameless hack is the point.
 
And another president could undo it just like Biden did. EOs are just a stopgap with no lasting authority. The only way to change the current situation is legislation. Stop blaming the president for the failings of the legislative branch. You personally should be extra attuned to that since you work in the judicial sphere and Congress has been shunting more and more of their responsibilities onto the other two branches for decades. The legislative branch legislates, not the executive by EO or the judicial from the bench.
Right now we need a stopgap. And using an EO would be just that and would last until the adults are back in charge.
 
Ah, I see we’re to the point you start completely deflecting. No one said a SCOTUS ruling was unconstitutional. SCOTUS rulings can certainly be radical.

You argued when congress rewrote a statute to eliminate an incorrect interpretation of the law, they didn’t actually do anything because any prior interpretation was wrong.

But you’ve also argued incessantly when the SCOTUS clarified Roe v Wade was an incorrect interpretation of the Constitution, they took away a right to abortion.

You’re an unprincipled, shameless hack is the point.
Those positions aren’t inconsistent in any way. You seem to have a fundamental misconception of basic civics. SCOTUS and legislatures, whether state or federal, are not the same. As I just posted. SCOTUS made Roe, SCOTUS has never ruled on the legality/constitutionality of fake electors under the Electoral Count Act or the revision from 2022. They’re entirely different standards and situations. One was, by definition as it originated from SCOTUS, constitutional and the other isn't.
 
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Those positions aren’t inconsistent in any way. You seem to have a fundamental misconception of basic civics. SCOTUS and legislatures, whether state or federal, are not the same. As I just posted. SCOTUS made Roe, SCOTUS has never ruled on the legality/constitutionality of fake electors under the Electoral Count Act or the revision from 2022. They’re entirely different standards and situations. One was, by definition as it originated from SCOTUS, constitutional and the other isn't.

“SCOTUS made Roe”. Correct.

And SCOTUS can’t make law. Hence the criticism of “legislating from the bench”.

SCOTUS was wrong in its interpretation of the Constitution in Roe, as agreed upon by most lawyers.

Your position that SCOTUS took away a right to abortion, but congress changing a law to eliminate an interpretation of the existing language didn’t do anything, are in fact entirely inconsistent whether you can grasp it or not.
 
“SCOTUS made Roe”. Correct.

And SCOTUS can’t make law. Hence the criticism of “legislating from the bench”.

SCOTUS was wrong in its interpretation of the Constitution in Roe, as agreed upon by most lawyers.

Your position that SCOTUS took away a right to abortion, but congress changing a law to eliminate an interpretation of the existing language didn’t do anything, are in fact entirely inconsistent whether you can grasp it or not.
Not at all as they aren’t the same legal standard. You’re a lawyer, you should know this. Me, or you or anyone else for that matter, preferring that the legislative branch do its job doesn’t change the fact that when SCOTUS issued Roe it was, by definition, constitutional and so a constitutional right.
 
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"Denotatively?" You sure you want to die on this hill?

LOL Appeal to Authority fallacy.

Plessy v. Ferguson says hi. So does Dred Scott.

"My guy." LOL
Yes. Do you know what the word you quoted means? SCOTUS decisions are by definition constitutional. That doesn’t mean they’re correct, that was never at issue and you don’t seem to have followed the conversation.
 
And another president could undo it just like Biden did. EOs are just a stopgap with no lasting authority. The only way to change the current situation is legislation. Stop blaming the president for the failings of the legislative branch. You personally should be extra attuned to that since you work in the judicial sphere and Congress has been shunting more and more of their responsibilities onto the other two branches for decades. The legislative branch legislates, not the executive by EO or the judicial from the bench.
I of course am in favor of legislation. But it is simply untrue that Biden lacks the power to change anything.
 
And another president could undo it just like Biden did. EOs are just a stopgap with no lasting authority. The only way to change the current situation is legislation. Stop blaming the president for the failings of the legislative branch. You personally should be extra attuned to that since you work in the judicial sphere and Congress has been shunting more and more of their responsibilities onto the other two branches for decades. The legislative branch legislates, not the executive by EO or the judicial from the bench.
False. It has lasted for three years now and is flooding this country with criminals, terrorist, gang members, pedophiles, rapist, etc... He could have left it as was.
 
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