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How will they rule ??!

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    Votes: 41 82.0%
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    Votes: 9 18.0%

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No way people are this incompetent. It's literally not possible.

The only explanation is they knew about it, allowed it, then tried to save face once it got out. That's why they waited till it completed it's trek and made sure it was unrecoverable.

Bonus Dem points for the waste of taxpayer money in launching a jet and using a missile solely for appearance sake
 
I’m in the camp that thinks it was just a weather balloon. China has too much leverage over the administration, and too many employees in the democrat party to need to send a balloon.

Regardless, shooting it down after it crossed over the United States is the dumbest goddam thing I’ve ever seen. At that point why waste the hundred of thousands of dollars the mission probably cost.
 
Are the maga morons happy now? it lost altitude as it went over the carolinas and was shot down soon as it went over water. You can now stop fearing the Balloon armagedon!
 
So you don't know much about Mt Everest or the Nepalese government. Launching it from Everest is unlikely for many reasons. The main one is the Nepalese government who general has good relationships with China. It is also huge. Messing with that at high altitude would be more than a challenge. Yes, launching one is simple. Getting it to go where you want is not. Even though the pentagon claims it has maneuverability, no one seems to know what that could be other than up and down.

Why even bother. Our satellites can tell you what Xi is eating in a courtyard. It's a bit hard to understand the purpose of the balloon unless their satellites just aren't nearly as good.
Come on dude. You couldn’t tell I wasn’t being serious? I’m just sayin send up the mfn balloons it doesn’t matter where you launch them from. Play their head games. It doesn’t matter though honestly. The collision course of ww3 seems unavoidable at this point. I mean it would take some massive deal some global deal to avert it at this point. Chinas all in with Russia:
 
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Are the maga morons happy now? it lost altitude as it went over the carolinas and was shot down soon as it went over water. You can now stop fearing the Balloon armagedon!
Like is said what maga runs the media networks and online sites that are pumping this story? I don’t know what maga and this story have to do with one another. You’re so consumed with maga dude.
 
50K feet? But I thought @Platinumdrgn said they were at 80k plus and impossible to reach effectively. He also believes China that it’s just a rouge weather balloon.
If it was at 50k ft then they probably lost control of the helium valve which is why it was wandering all over the world. You cannot steer the balloons. you move them by changing altitude into wind currents. Upper atmosphere currents are faster and easier to map out with predictive algorithms.
 
Come on dude. You couldn’t tell I wasn’t being serious? I’m just sayin send up the mfn balloons it doesn’t matter where you launch them from. Play their head games. It doesn’t matter though honestly. The collision course of ww3 seems unavoidable at this point. I mean it would take some massive deal some global deal to avert it at this point. Chinas all in with Russia:
I wondered for a second but then you and I seem to find ways to disagree sometimes.
 
Are the maga morons happy now? it lost altitude as it went over the carolinas and was shot down soon as it went over water. You can now stop fearing the Balloon armagedon!
No, not really. It was able to upload data all the way across the country. Are you happy about that?
 
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You are usually better than that lazy, unintelligent post.
The flip side of that coin is that as the Republican party has become more working class because of culture issues the Democratic party has become wealthier sucking up those educated, upper income, socially liberal, more fiscally conservative former Republicans. With Trump touting trade protectionism the two parties are closer on economic policy today than they've mostly been historically. Both are big spenders. So Joe's old Democratic party of the working man needs to find that identity or it'll just keep bleeding more and more working class voters to anti-drag queen mania as they don't see a big enough difference in the economic message. 'Go economy go! Do good and awesome!' only goes so far.

Is that a more intelligent and less lazy summary for you? What I said in the initial post is true, Republicans are picking up working class voters because of culture wars. It's been happening for many decades, what we're seeing is still fallout from Nixon and Reagan.
 
Culture wars. Being anti-LGBTQ is more important to them than their own self-interest. LBJ's quote about rednecks and minorities is as true today as it's ever been: "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

Lived around low white men, rednecks, and white liberals w money.

White liberals w money are the most closet racist bunch I’ve ever met in my life.
 
Literally no one mad about shooting it down. This is what you guys do tho. I remember when siding with a foreign threat over Americans was a bad thing tho.
Ok:
No, not really. It was able to upload data all the way across the country. Are you happy about that?
So we shoot it down over the ocean and don’t even recover the hardware? stinks
I’m in the camp that thinks it was just a weather balloon. China has too much leverage over the administration, and too many employees in the democrat party to need to send a balloon.

Regardless, shooting it down after it crossed over the United States is the dumbest goddam thing I’ve ever seen. At that point why waste the hundred of thousands of dollars the mission probably cost.
No way people are this incompetent. It's literally not possible.

The only explanation is they knew about it, allowed it, then tried to save face once it got out. That's why they waited till it completed it's trek and made sure it was unrecoverable.

Bonus Dem points for the waste of taxpayer money in launching a jet and using a missile solely for appearance sake
Xi tells Mush, we got what we need. Shoot it down if ya want. Im sure Hunter gave the same ok.
The official story will be , we defended our airspace but unfortunately the strike on the weather ballon probably damaged any and all hard drives on the balloon and it sank to depths unreachable 🍺
At least seven on this page alone.
 
The flip side of that coin is that as the Republican party has become more working class because of culture issues the Democratic party has become wealthier sucking up those educated, upper income, socially liberal, more fiscally conservative former Republicans. With Trump touting trade protectionism the two parties are closer on economic policy today than they've mostly been historically. Both are big spenders. So Joe's old Democratic party of the working man needs to find that identity or it'll just keep bleeding more and more working class voters to anti-drag queen mania as they don't see a big enough difference in the economic message. 'Go economy go! Do good and awesome!' only goes so far.

Is that a more intelligent and less lazy summary for you? What I said in the initial post is true, Republicans are picking up working class voters because of culture wars. It's been happening for many decades, what we're seeing is still fallout from Nixon and Reagan.
Except they generally aren't culture wars. Usually it tends to be the right just notices something batshit crazy the left is doing then its suddenly a culture war. Exhibit A:



 
The Commonwealth will soon condemn property in Knott County “to build homes for flood survivors” if the owners do not agree to sell. Is this legal? When did we get to the point that government can take property from an owner and give it to another in the form of a “housing project?”

Is welfare out of control in this country? That’s a rhetorical question, of course, since we know that it is. But is this project a representation of how extreme it has become? Is Kentucky becoming like Louisiana where hundreds of thousands are voluntarily locked into generational welfare?

How is this happening in what is supposedly one of the reddest states in the Union? Is vote farming a cancer in both parties equally?

When is that Elon Musk spaceship supposed to be ready to head for Mars? Anybody know the price for tickets?


Unfortunately it hasn't been resisted for a very long time. They stole peoples' property to create national parks last century and it was hailed as "wonderful" for the country. I guess a country built on stealing land that belongs to others will continue to steal land that belongs to others.
 
The flip side of that coin is that as the Republican party has become more working class because of culture issues the Democratic party has become wealthier sucking up those educated, upper income, socially liberal, more fiscally conservative former Republicans. With Trump touting trade protectionism the two parties are closer on economic policy today than they've mostly been historically. Both are big spenders. So Joe's old Democratic party of the working man needs to find that identity or it'll just keep bleeding more and more working class voters to anti-drag queen mania as they don't see a big enough difference in the economic message. 'Go economy go! Do good and awesome!' only goes so far.

Is that a more intelligent and less lazy summary for you? What I said in the initial post is true, Republicans are picking up working class voters because of culture wars. It's been happening for many decades, what we're seeing is still fallout from Nixon and Reagan.
Yeah, dims, the intelligent class that can’t tell a man from a woman.
 
The flip side of that coin is that as the Republican party has become more working class because of culture issues the Democratic party has become wealthier sucking up those educated, upper income, socially liberal, more fiscally conservative former Republicans. With Trump touting trade protectionism the two parties are closer on economic policy today than they've mostly been historically. Both are big spenders. So Joe's old Democratic party of the working man needs to find that identity or it'll just keep bleeding more and more working class voters to anti-drag queen mania as they don't see a big enough difference in the economic message. 'Go economy go! Do good and awesome!' only goes so far.

Is that a more intelligent and less lazy summary for you? What I said in the initial post is true, Republicans are picking up working class voters because of culture wars. It's been happening for many decades, what we're seeing is still fallout from Nixon and Reagan.
Yes but I don't agree. Republicans are picking up working class people because they don't align with the lefts radical position on so many issues. You won't see them as radical but that's part of my point.
 
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Lived around low white men, rednecks, and white liberals w money.

White liberals w money are the most closet racist bunch I’ve ever met in my life.
They're trying to criminalize drag in Arizona. I'm sorry you know rich people in Cali who pay Latinos a pittance to do their chores and don't want projects built near them. They're rich snobs who look down their noses at workers of all races. They just use the daggers of racial epithets against minorities in addition because it's easy. They hate Appalachian poor whites as well. But the ever-present class war is not the same as literally trying to criminalize a stage production of Mulan because you hate the LGBTQ community.
 
Yes but I don't agree. Republicans are picking up working class people because they don't align with the lefts radical position on so many issues. You won't see them as radical but that's part of my point.
Yes. Radical(to you) positions on social issues. Not economic ones. Just like the middle and upper class people are moving from Republican to Democrat because they don't agree with the right's radical(to them) positions on social issues(anti-intellectual Trumpism, anti-LGBTQ). Neither group sees a big enough difference in economic message that it really matters to them, so they vote on social issues where there's an obvious split. Culture wars. Like I initially said.
 
Come on dude. You couldn’t tell I wasn’t being serious? I’m just sayin send up the mfn balloons it doesn’t matter where you launch them from. Play their head games. It doesn’t matter though honestly. The collision course of ww3 seems unavoidable at this point. I mean it would take some massive deal some global deal to avert it at this point. Chinas all in with Russia:
China is not all-in with Russia. They're using them just like they try to use everyone. China is only all-in on itself.
 
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Yes. Radical(to you) positions on social issues. Not economic ones. Just like the middle and upper class people are moving from Republican to Democrat because they don't agree with the right's radical(to them) positions on social issues(anti-intellectual Trumpism, anti-LGBTQ). Neither group sees a big enough difference in economic message that it really matters to them, so they vote on social issues where there's an obvious split. Culture wars. Like I initially said.
To quote Warrior...." FALSE".
 
They're trying to criminalize drag in Arizona. I'm sorry you know rich people in Cali who pay Latinos a pittance to do their chores and don't want projects built near them. They're rich snobs who look down their noses at workers of all races. They just use the daggers of racial epithets against minorities in addition because it's easy. They hate Appalachian poor whites as well. But the ever-present class war is not the same as literally trying to criminalize a stage production of Mulan because you hate the LGBTQ community.

Latinos can be just as racist as well but that’s mostly the younger social media generation that tends to fall for “white man bad” msm propaganda.

So is drag considered racial now?

Typically I’m a live and let live but kids have a certain vulnerability, innocence, and naivety that we adults do not.

Do I have an issue with gay actors performing a Disney show that kids watch? No

Do I have a issue with gay/straight sexualizing a Disney show that kids watch? Yeah it comes across predatory imo.

I’d need more details.
 
Agree. Should’ve been taken down over the Pacific.
If we were a serious nation we would have taken it down in the Pacific. We should have known it was coming East over the Pacific and acted at that time.

But no Biden waits until it goes over the Continental United States and Alaska and then decide to take it out. Meanwhile it has all of the information it needs and probably transmitted it back to China as it was gathering it. Dumb Ass Biden
 
Latinos can be just as racist as well but that’s mostly the younger social media generation that tends to fall for “white man bad” msm propaganda.

So is drag considered racial now?

Typically I’m a live and let live but kids have a certain vulnerability, innocence, and naivety that we adults do not.

Do I have an issue with gay actors performing a Disney show that kids watch? No

Do I have a issue with gay/straight sexualizing a Disney show that kids watch? Yeah it comes across predatory imo.

I’d need more details.
Republicans in Arizona just introduced a bill to reclassify drag as an 'adult cabaret' performance, the category for stripping. And they define a 'drag show' as "a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clothing and makeup opposite of the performer's gender at birth". I mean that could apply to a woman wearing pants for crying out loud. They're trying to drag us back to the 19th century!
 
Republicans in Arizona just introduced a bill to reclassify drag as an 'adult cabaret' performance, the category for stripping. And they define a 'drag show' as "a show or performance for entertainment at which a single performer or group of performers dress in clothing and makeup opposite of the performer's gender at birth". I mean that could apply to a woman wearing pants for crying out loud. They're trying to drag us back to the 19th century!
Hooray for Arizona ! 🍺 get rid of all drag and gay crap
 
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